HeavenSent is bigoted

[D1st0rt]

SAVE ME JEEBUS!

[HeavenSent]

Adam and Eve produce children. How do those children reproduce without incest?

Adam and Eve were not the first people on earth. After Cain killed his brother, he went to the land of Nod, which would have been somewhere in China, to find a wife.
I remember seeing something on one of Eddy Murphy's movies, The Golden Child, where the female support role character had said something to the effect, regarding the Chinese New Year and the Dragon paraded in the streets, that Chinese people became civilized when a person, half man, half dragon came to visit their people.

[HeavenSent]

But then don't go and tell that gay man he can't get married, he doesn't deserve the same rights because you think being gay is bad. That is where you cross the line, in my opinion.

We're all entitled to our opinions
Gay people want the same tax benefits married couples have. That, they can have, i don't care. I just feel that it would serve all parties concerned better if it was called something different, other than marriage for gays. It would be identical to straight married couples, just reserve the term 'Married' for straight couples.
If gay couples do eventually get national recognition as 'Married', oh well, such is life. It would be just another thing that some disagree with and will have to accept and tolerate, including myself.

[HeavenSent]

There's a fundamental difference between hating the sin and loving the sinner

There is no difference.

There's quite a big difference. You can love your family members, but hate some of the things they do.

For instance, you can either say,
"I hate people that interrupt me when i'm talking"
or...
"I hate it when people interrupt me."

One is hating the person, the other is hating the things they do.

[HeavenSent]

You can't stop being gay just because you want to.

I have much difficulty believing that.
I don't believe God would make anyone gay then judge them to damnation.
It's all about self-control & moral self-conviction IMO
God has the power to change lives.

[Pandagirl!]

HeavenSent I sure don't know where you're getting all this information because it's sure not what the Bible says at all.

[DoTheFandango]

Adam and Eve were not the first people on earth. After Cain killed his brother, he went to the land of Nod, which would have been somewhere in China, to find a wife.
I remember seeing something on one of Eddy Murphy's movies, The Golden Child, where the female support role character had said something to the effect, regarding the Chinese New Year and the Dragon paraded in the streets, that Chinese people became civilized when a person, half man, half dragon came to visit their people.

WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCKFUCKEDYFUCK!!!

I have much difficulty believing that.
I don't believe God would make anyone gay then judge them to damnation.
It's all about self-control & moral self-conviction IMO
God has the power to change lives.

God also knew that the Human race would be destined to fail and turn evil. Yet he still made them. Well, that's what Milton said, and I'm sure the Bible said it somewhere-- but I can't be arsed to find it.

Further, weren't we created out of God's image? If we were destined to fail, wtf?

[HeavenSent]

HeavenSent I sure don't know where you're getting all this information because it's sure not what the Bible says at all.

If you can be specific, i can show you where i got it.
Also, I don't subscribe to 'mainstream' Christianity.... as i said, Religion is evil.. including Christianity in general. Too many rules, rituals & traditions.. hence you having difficulty finding where my biblical references are.

[Pandagirl!]

Well what exactly led you to conclude that Adam and Eve weren't the first people on the Earth?

[Galleleo]

Gay people want the same tax benefits married couples have. That, they can have, i don't care. I just feel that it would serve all parties concerned better if it was called something different.

Why would it concern ALL parties better? You are still making a difference between gays and straight people, giving them the same rights doesn't matter so much when you call it different because you will form a mental barrier that kinda says at the same time: hey, you are different, fuck you for that. So I don't see how it would be better for all parties. Gay people just want to be accepted.

And being gay is NOT something you chose to be. You are gay or not. As said before, you didn't make a choice to start liking girls. It happened. And like I also stated before, there have been plenty of religious people who found out they were gay and tried to fight it, even to the extent of marriage and having kids, and in the end it all comes out anyway.

[HeavenSent]

God also knew that the Human race would be destined to fail and turn evil. Yet he still made them. Well, that's what Milton said, and I'm sure the Bible said it somewhere-- but I can't be arsed to find it.

Further, weren't we created out of God's image? If we were destined to fail, wtf?

That's a really deep topic regarding why God put us here to fail.
The fact of the matter is that...
In this life we are essentially giving our testimony of a life we've already lived. God has a way of putting us on the witness stand and making our story/testimony of where and what we were doing around the time of Lucifer's rebellion seem real.
In other words, we are repeating a life we've already lived. That world ended with the rebellion. This world we live in too will end with Lucifer again rebelling against God. Everything up to the final event is just setting up the stage.
The thing that has been, it is that which will be; and that which is done is that which will be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. (Eccl:1:9)

[HeavenSent]

Why would it concern ALL parties better? You are still making a difference between gays and straight people, giving them the same rights doesn't matter so much when you call it different because you will form a mental barrier that kinda says at the same time: hey, you are different, fuck you for that. So I don't see how it would be better for all parties. Gay people just want to be accepted.

And being gay is NOT something you chose to be. You are gay or not. As said before, you didn't make a choice to start liking girls. It happened. And like I also stated before, there have been plenty of religious people who found out they were gay and tried to fight it, even to the extent of marriage and having kids, and in the end it all comes out anyway.

You can have your opinion and i can have mine. It doesn't make either one of us right.
There has to be some compromise somewhere. The only difference would be the term and at the very least, Christians would be better served. K?
What makes a person gay is their sexual preference. Preference being the key word. It's a matter of the individual having a preference of how they'd like to get their rox off.

[HeavenSent]

Well what exactly led you to conclude that Adam and Eve weren't the first people on the Earth?

How could Cain go to the land of Nod to find a wife if he and Able were the first siblings? When did the white people started pumping out black babies... or vice versa? On the sixth day, God made mankind.. each according to their kind.
Also, if the flood were world-wide, we'd all be offsprings of Noah. The flood was around 2300 BC. Egypt predates the flood and has no record of a flood and from the pictorial artifacts of that era, we can see that there were already quite a variety of ethnic peoples.

geneology chart

[Liquid Blue]

Remember folks, if you hit a spot where the bible has a hole or two, just pop in one of Eddie Murphey's movies (specifically the Golden Child and Beverly Hills Cop series) to fill it all in.

I have much difficulty believing that.
I don't believe God would make anyone gay then judge them to damnation.
It's all about self-control & moral self-conviction IMO
God has the power to change lives.

Dur dur dur wha

[HeavenSent]

Remember folks, if you hit a spot where the bible has a hole or two, just pop in one of Eddie Murphey's movies (specifically the Golden Child and Beverly Hills Cop series) to fill it all in.

I just used that as a side note because i found it interesting & relevant.