Proof the Bible is Garbage?

[milosh]

generally calling people morons does not make them want to drink from your wisdom...

what does aggravate me is that so many people just jump to conclusions.... no the bible is this way... yadda yadda yadda... because i don't have any proof except that it's what i think makes sense... no the bible is this way... yadda yadda yadda... because i've seen so many douchebags that believe in it. no all scientists and evolutionists are retarded because they don't believe in God, thus they have no common sense. Just chill out... most of the people that size up Christians haven't read a full chapter of the Bible themselves, and most Christians that size up non-Christians don't have the faintest idea what they believe and why. Perhaps some civility and patient listening is in order if any of us are going to get closer to the truth... which I really hope is what all of you want.

[Saturn V]

Both Christianity and Athiesm take faith. One says there is "GOD" one says no there is no "GoD"



I believe that man evolved from the dust of the earth.(God forming him) I would put my faith in a God I cannot see then believe that we call came from big explosion 15 billion years in the making. Anyone who dosen't believe that we came from a "Higher" being is a moron. With "Life" that is so complex and ordered it's hard to believe that we are he simply by random chance.


Couple ?'s for you tone.

1)Why is it so hard for you to believe the bible?
2) If evolution happend(big bang) why did it create order? Don't explosions create chaos?
3) Where are the billions up trillions of transitional fossils(i.e. The dog/cat or monkey/horse.
4) Last but not least if God could create all that we see could he not direct men to write a flawless gospel.


I do understand the some of the versions are different. The King James Version was altered by King James because he was a homosexual.
However most scripture was cannonized by the early church under the direction of christ(God) (cannoized=accepted as doctrine). The bible has been transliterated many times to allow people to read it in all languages.


I'm not a "Religious" person nor do I go to church, I'm not a christian. but christiany is the only religion with a backbone. It's odd for me that someone could go out at night look at the stars and say wow an explosion and random chance created all this. rather than an omnipotant(spelt right?) being


When's the last time you shit and it got up and grew legs? That's what science says happend(i.e. living matter coming from non living matter) spontanious generation


Look at it like this when Prittik designed contiuum did he make something out of nothing? conituum needed a "Creator" right? Or he could of just randomly punched numbers and bamm he made Kazza and Subspace.
Only a fool would not believe that a higher being made the universe. And if he did that why could he direct prophets, apostles, and diciples to write down a book flawlessly. I mean he only made the Universe.....


P.S. I wrote this in hurry because I was going out I will fix the grammar issues later.

This post fails so hard. I don't even know where to begin.

1) Atheism doesn't take faith. While lack of evidence isn't lack of proof, it sure as hell doesn't help the case. Religious people are the ones making outrageous claims therefore the burden of proof is on them. When an atheist provides a non-religious answer, they tend to get attacked because it doesn't match religious dogma.

Religion says it has the conclusion, but it's up to the religious people to twist things to fit that conclusion, even when they don't make sense.

2) You say I'm a moron because I don't believe in a higher being. I wonder if God is a moron, too, as I'm pretty sure he doesn't believe he came from a higher being, either. In other words: who created God? Oh right, let's avoid that question by saying he always existed.

3) Your questions... 1) I can't speak for Tone, but I don't believe the Bible because it is riddled with contradictions. It doesn't take much serious research to turn up these problems. Also, the most important part of the Bible--Jesus--seems inaccurate. The Gospels, the story of the life of Jesus, were written generations after the guy was supposed to live and each one different. All other accounts of Jesus seemed to be based on these questionable books in the Bible. 2) Evolution doesn't involve the origin of the Universe nor the origin of life. Do some serious reading and stop criticizing something you know nothing about. And the big bang was not an explosion. Again, read more. 3) Sigh. First off, the fossil record is overstated. People think there are fossils everywhere and readily available. This isn't the case. A lot of fossils you see are casts. Second, there are transitional fossils. You mention the horse... the evolutionary history of the horse is VERY well known. Again, try doing some research. 4) The Gospel is hardly flawless. Trying reading something other than bibleanswers.com. And Hitchins makes an interesting point: modern humans have been around for 200,000 years. Why would God sit there and watch all this shit unfold for 198,000 years and then decide to change the world in some obscure part of the Middle East?

4) Your "shit and grew legs" comment again shows you know nothing of the evolutionary theory. But I'm sure it would trick people looking for easy answers! Good job!

5) Evolution is not "pile of crap to creatures with legs" in one instant. It's slow and gradual. It builds and builds and builds. In fact, go read The Blind Watchmaker.

6) Please refrain from posting ever again.

[Saturn V]

And before bete noire steps in and says I haven't read a chapter of the Bible, I used to be a Bible-thumping, science-hating, Jesus-smoking Christian.

[milosh]

Please don't speak for me

[Saturn V]

Please don't speak for me

Then don't be so general and clump "most people" in to two categories, meaning the whole, "most of the people that size up Christians haven't read a full chapter of the Bible themselves" thing 4 posts up.

[milosh]

'most' is not a sweeping statement... but i agree that 'many' would have been more appropriate

i don't bend any truths to make my philosophy rational... i do see a lot of evolutionists doing some bending however

[PaulOakenfold]

Your original post would have been better had it gone something like this:

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Way to miss an opportunity.

An opportunity to make absolutely no sense?

[Saturn V]

An opportunity to make absolutely no sense?

Oh, it makes perfect sense.

[Kahlan]

Do you need physical proof of religion? Do you need to see something to believe it?

Faith.

I have never seen God or an angel or Jesus Christ. I have never heard God speak to me. I have never witnessed a man walking on water or multiplying food.

I believe it because I have a feeling about it. I believe it because I've had certain experiences in my life that tell me what to believe. I've witnessed miracles. I've witnessed healing by way of priesthood. I've experienced what many call the "Holy Ghost" giving me guidance that saved my life, even.

I don't need to see God or an Angel or Jesus Christ to know they're real. I have faith. 1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Have faith. A comfort in your heart would definitely beat an emptiness.

[genocidal]

I've witnessed healing by way of priesthood.

No matter what he said I assure you that your dick was normal before he "fixed" it.

[HeavenSent]

No matter what he said I assure you that your dick was normal before he "fixed" it.

...and you know this because...
Genital
Entropy
Needing
Occasional
Cocaine
Induced
Damsels
Activating
Loins

Penis envy

Amirite?
:fear:

[genocidal]

You cracked the code. Congratulations!

[moltenrock]

We'll know it's real when you're in hell and we're all laughing at you!

:fear:

[Saturn V]

We'll know it's real when you're in hell and we're all laughing at you!

:fear:

Scare tactics. Nice.

(We'll actually be laughing at you!) :gap:

[moltenrock]

Lies.