It's the Official "Talk About the War" Thread!!!

[Yojo]

Actually, the President has not yet gotten a declaration of war from Congress. The emergency act doesn't apply to this. However, according to a bill in the homeland security act he has 60 days to use his troops in battle, before coming to Congress. After those 60 days have ended, he will need a declaration to continue the fight. From what i have heard, is that the majority of congress is actually against the war. So in essence, he has two months to finish the job.

[Qbe]

Originally posted by Yojo
Actually, the President has not yet gotten a declaration of war from Congress. The emergency act doesn't apply to this. However, according to a bill in the homeland security act he has 60 days to use his troops in battle, before coming to Congress. After those 60 days have ended, he will need a declaration to continue the fight. From what i have heard, is that the majority of congress is actually against the war. So in essence, he has two months to finish the job.

That seems stupid.

[Qbe]

Originally posted by Jason
Dear Forum Mods,

I ask that you please consolidate all the various threads concerning the war and throw them in here, and then make this thread a sticky until the war's over. There's no need for a new war thread to pop up every day.

I already tried.

My attempt.

[Jason]

Your proposal was entirely different from mine. I'm not asking them to start an entirely new forum. I just want a single, consolidated, stickied war thread. It's a very simple thing to do.

By the way, that font is ugly.

[Qbe]

One thread would be way too disorganized. It wouldn't work.

By the way, I don't care.

[PolluX]

I am growing a moustache so I can look like an Iraqi

[Qbe]

Originally posted by PolluX
I am growing a moustache so I can look like an Iraqi

I know it's hard, but don't act stupid please.

By the way, we don't care.

[Fit of Rage]

Originally posted by Qbe
By the way, we don't care.

We? Don't go and associate other's opinions when you don't know them. PJ says- "Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups."

[Qbe]

Correction: I don't care.

[Jason]

Originally posted by Qbe
One thread would be way too disorganized. It wouldn't work.

By the way, I don't care.

I've seen it done on countless other forums, and it's working just fine.

Neither do I. :]

[Golden--Knight]

What I agree with

United We Stand...Divided We Fall
I have heard that saying since I was a kid, but I am not sure I ever put much thought into it until recently. We are clearly a nation divided when it comes to the subject of war with Iraq.

I think the only thin we can agree on is nobody wants to have a war. I do not believe President Bush wants to go to war, but he feels it is necessary and I for one will support what our Commander-in-Chief feels is best for our country. None of us can be naive enough to think they have told us everything. Our leaders truly think if we are going to be safe from attack, this is necessary.

The thought of war sends cold chills down my spine. I have friends and the idea of them going off to fight literally makes me sick to my stomach...but then again, so do the still-vivid images of planes flying into the World Trade Center. Do we know for a fact whehter or not Saddam Hussein had anything to do with that? To me, the more important question is: Can we take the risk?

I will not allow myself to forget what happened on the morning of September 11th, 2001. Ten days or so later, George Bush told the nation we would begin the fight against terrorism. He told us "We will not tire, we will not falter and we will not fail." And he assured every leader of every country if they supported terrorism, we would come after them. We all rejoiced in those words. Tears rolled down my cheeks when I heard him say that. They were, in fact, words we needed to hear and frankly, we WANTED to hear.

Now less than a year and a half later, many in our country seem to be surprised. Some even question why we're doing this. I will not debate the "should we or shouldn't we" question. I just know that we have to UNITE. That means unite behind the people we elected to lead us in good times and bad. Perhaps the reason we were so vulnerable that fateful September day was due to a lack of being strong. Fear of reprisal is a huge motivator when dealing with cowards like Osama bin Laden.

I believe with all my heart the goal on September 11th was to kill 100,000 Americans or more. I beg you to close your eyes and visualize those planes going into the bulidings. Remember the images of the people who jumped out of the burning inferno? Admit it, you were horrified...and most of us cried. But we found strength and we UNITED as a country. So many people wanted to buy Amercian flags that within 24 hours the stores were sold out. Where are those feelings today?

No matter HOW you feel about war with Iraq, we are sending a VERY dangerous message to the world that we are vulnerable. I cna only imagine how happy it makes the terrorists to see us divided like this. I can see them laughing as they burn our sacred American flag.

Let's face it...this wars is going to happen no matter if we want it to or not. So I encourage all Americans to lock arms and show the world we are strong and we want to remain free of the fear of dying like our borthers and sisters did in New York.

I for one won't buy duct tape, nor store a hundred gallons of water...I just won't let Saddam or Osama or any of the rest of our enemies know I am scared. For, you see, I am more afraid of the division inside our borders than an invasion from the enemy.

As for Matin Sheen, Madonna, Barbara Streisand, and the rest of you "stars:" The "little people" like myself and everyone else I know don't really give a darn what you think, so why don't you keep it to yourself? Your voices are no more valuable than ours and I resent you trying to divide our great country. Channel the energy and publicity you love so much to garner unity or pick some other cause with a POSITIVE effect...like helping our veterans who have fought in previous wars, or supporting our police officers and fire fighters.

United we stand...divided we will fall. I will continue to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United Stats of America and believe ONE NATION, under God, is indivisible, and there will be liberty and justice for all. I hope you'll join me.

[Adman]

Originally posted by Jason
Dear Forum Mods,

I ask that you please consolidate all the various threads concerning the war and throw them in here, and then make this thread a sticky until the war's over. There's no need for a new war thread to pop up every day.

CoT did that on the old forums after september 11th. So yeah, it's pretty easy. and we don't have gk posting 2 threads about the same topic.

[Hoju]

Refering to Golden--Knights' essay/post

Good writing.

Although, I believe this "war" is necessary. But to one his own, and most the points you brought up are very true.

This is not about oil, this is not about getting back at Saddam for "daddy's" sake.... this is to help protect the people of the world from a dictator that has killed his citizens for looking at him the wrong way, starved them only to take the money that he could have used to provide help for them and convert it into diamonds so it doesn't lose international value (so Saddam can still be rich, even out of Iraq), send checks to families of Palestinian suicide bombers, and so much more.

I don't know if this has been confirmed, but I heard that one of the dead of the first night's bombing was a one of the leaders of a terrorist organization out of Palestine. If that doesn't give you enough proof (if it is true) that he is tied with these terrorists, I don't know what does.

I don't understand how people could be against this. But of course, that's my opinion.

[punjar]

Reffering to GK's essay/post

As an american.. i for one i dont mind if you dont agree with the war but atleast support our kids/friends/family over there fighting this war. I for one support the war and most of the reasons for going into it. I dont think Bush is war hungry i just think this is past due. Very nice post gk and hogu. Lets please keep U.S. flaming out of this. It is pointless. Thanks. Peace

-brian

[Hoju]

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11-12-1999

4 Years... and I'm still referred to as HOGO/HOJO/HOGU/GOHU/MOHU/TABOO?