War?

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Kolar said it best, 'world wars have started over less than this'. I'd say the West stay out of it, it'd be so fucking easy to bait us into this shit storm.

Isnt this exactly what we said of Hitler. We may already have started world war 3.

[gran guerrero]

Oh boy

[Cylor]

No, I'm right.

check out this link to prove it

[Galleleo]

Oil could be a also part of it, but only as a minor reason.

No. This conflict is about South Ossetie wanting to be independent from Georgia and Georgia not letting them be independent. The reason WHY Georgia doesnt want South Ossetie to be independent is because of the oil, and also gas I believe. If South Ossetie didn't have all these resources it could be very likely that Georgia would have agreed to its independence. Saakashvilli already offered South Ossetie a lot of sovereignty, but doesnt want it to part from Georgia because of the oil and other resources. So it is not a minor reason, it is THE reason for the fights between rebels and Georgian army.

Medfedev said earlier today that Georgia had been punished enough and that Russia would cease the fighting, but it has been reported after that 3 cities were still under attack, during one of these attacks a Dutch cameraman died and a Dutch reporter was injured.

[FarScape]

No. This conflict is about South Ossetie wanting to be independent from Georgia and Georgia not letting them be independent. The reason WHY Georgia doesnt want South Ossetie to be independent is because of the oil, and also gas I believe. If South Ossetie didn't have all these resources it could be very likely that Georgia would have agreed to its independence. Saakashvilli already offered South Ossetie a lot of sovereignty, but doesnt want it to part from Georgia because of the oil and other resources. So it is not a minor reason, it is THE reason for the fights between rebels and Georgian army.

Medfedev said earlier today that Georgia had been punished enough and that Russia would cease the fighting, but it has been reported after that 3 cities were still under attack, during one of these attacks a Dutch cameraman died and a Dutch reporter was injured.

You are naive if you think that, without oil, Georgia would give them the land.
With your logic, I wonder why the Arabs want (Wish I could say wanted) to destroy Israel? we are like the only country in the middle east who doesn't have oil or gas...

[gran guerrero]

because it is the only holy hand that had jebus in it, and other holy men

[FarScape]

Its all about the shawarma, I tell ya! B)

[Galleleo]

With my logic? I am not talking about Israel. Your logic is screwed, I am saying the conflict in Georgia is about oil, I am not talking about Israel.

[FarScape]

Well, as I tried to show you, not every conflict is about oil. They are not fighting about oil there. Its about people who don't see themselves as part of Georgia, and want to unit with Russia. Its not a war between Russia and Georgia about resources.

[Squeezer]

Well, as I tried to show you, not every conflict is about oil. They are not fighting about oil there. Its about people who don't see themselves as part of Georgia, and want to unit with Russia. Its not a war between Russia and Georgia about resources.

no you're wrong. this is not a black and white issue. Russia has many motives for invading and continually pressing farther into Georgia. The oil pipeline connecting to Iran is certainly an incentive for Russia as is sending a message to the world about Russia's reemergence, as is testing their military capabilities to match their large economic investment in the defense industry, as is striking back at Georgia. Russia is trying to accomplish many things just as the US had many reasons for the war in Iraq (public "patriotism" in response to 9/11, removing Hussein, finding wmds (?), increasing the defense industry, etc. etc.).

[Ayano]

Btw, Russia is pulling out.

[Squeezer]

Btw, Russia is pulling out.

oh...rad.

edit: not to be a dick, but are you sure?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26116598/

[FarScape]

no you're wrong. this is not a black and white issue. Russia has many motives for invading and continually pressing farther into Georgia. The oil pipeline connecting to Iran is certainly an incentive for Russia as is sending a message to the world about Russia's reemergence, as is testing their military capabilities to match their large economic investment in the defense industry, as is striking back at Georgia. Russia is trying to accomplish many things just as the US had many reasons for the war in Iraq (public "patriotism" in response to 9/11, removing Hussein, finding wmds (?), increasing the defense industry, etc. etc.).

There is nothing wrong. As I already said, Oil might be involved in this, but clearly its not the reason.
I also feel a bit hypocrisy from U.S after they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.

Russia is also pissed about the agreement that was in Kosovo, leaded by the west. So yes, there are many things involved, but the conflict there is for the reason I mentioned above.

[kthx]

Just because someone says they are pulling out doesn't mean they will. Look at Goddess.

[Ayano]

oh...rad.

edit: not to be a dick, but are you sure?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26116598/

In the macro-scopic view, yes, the end of all major offensives. All that's left is the diplomatic and minor scuffles to deal with. Small skirmishes will ensue for a few more months, but nothing major worth noting.

Leave out the lraq 'victory' speech references, i know everyone's waiting to jump on that one. This is a different situation.