Muslim Demographics

[genocidal]

The scary thing about islam is the line between extremists and conservative followers is blurred.
While most religions preach understanding towards eachother, one of the core goals of Islam is to turn the entire planet into an islamic state, by force if necessary. Anyone who intently practises Islam is aware of this, although they are not likely to publicise it.
There is even an Islamic term for concealing ones true goals/beliefs whilst in a foreign land, and acting covertly.. Not exactly elements of a virtuous faith.
But most people wont bother to look into it and rely on the vague ideals of political correctness.

Wrong and misguided again as usual. All the major faiths have some type of evangelism in their belief system - if not it would suck at being a religion and wouldn't be one of the top 3 in the world.

[TagMor]

All the major faiths have some type of evangelism in their belief system

key word being some type of evangelism.

Christianity's: spread the word of god (scripture).
Islam's: invade infidel countries and chop the heads off of anyone who doesnt convert.

[genocidal]

key word being some type of evangelism.

Christianity's: spread the word of god (scripture).
Islam's: invade infidel countries and chop the heads off of anyone who doesnt convert.

Are you really this stupid? Quote me where in the Koran it says this. Don't give me any kind of hysteria bullshit. And don't try to tell me Christianity is a peaceful religion because of its scripture either. Have you heard of the Crusades? It may seem to you that Islam is a more violent religion but that's only because you want to feel that way and you're probably a little racist too.

[Vykromond]

i don't think you understand, genocidal. i'm fucking TERRIFIED of brown people. they're BROWN. how do you not get this? THEY'RE FUCKING BROWN. THAT IS NOT AT ALL THE SAME COLOR AS WHITE.

[TagMor]

Are you really this stupid? Quote me where in the Koran it says this.

"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter" - Sura 2:191-193

"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." - Sura 2:216

"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" - Suri 3:151

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing: But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
- Sura 4:89

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" - Sura 8:12

"And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" - Sura 8:39

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." - Sura 9:5

"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" - Sura 9:30

And don't try to tell me Christianity is a peaceful religion because of its scripture either. Have you heard of the Crusades?

Christianity is quite clearly a peaceful religion. The New Testament promotes only love and respect, including that of your enemies. No where does it advocate violence towards non-believers.
True, history has many examples of people committing violent atrocities under the guise of Christianity, but they were clearly not following its laws.
In comparison, most of those atrocities would be acceptable, and even praised under the laws of Islam.

It may seem to you that Islam is a more violent religion but that's only because you want to feel that way and you're probably a little racist too.

You are showing your naive, politically-correct perspective by stereotyping me as a racist bigot. The topic is religion, not race.
You claim my argument stems from a desire to "feel that way".. Well I could easily say the same about you and your desire to portray a socially acceptable viewpoint that is niether accurate, nor a product of your own intellect.

[gran guerrero]

lol christianity peaceful

[TagMor]

Show me a New Testament quote that advocates violence or sit the fuck down idiot.

[gran guerrero]

lol, I am sitting down, but not for your sake. Please tell me you are living in this world that I am too? Take a look at history, and tell me again christianity didnt commit any form of murder/hate in the name of their religion.

To be quite frank with you, besides buddhism, what religion hasn't done any harm to other ppl that doesnt follow their view point? Please, tell me. I am intrigued at your ignorance

no not really, just wanted to say the word intrigued.

[TagMor]

try reading post #20 again, slower this time.

[Galaxy Turbo]

"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter" - Sura 2:191-193

"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." - Sura 2:216

"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority" - Suri 3:151

"They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing: But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
- Sura 4:89

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" - Sura 8:12

"And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah" - Sura 8:39

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." - Sura 9:5

"And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!" - Sura 9:30





Christianity is quite clearly a peaceful religion. The New Testament promotes only love and respect, including that of your enemies. No where does it advocate violence towards non-believers.
True, history has many examples of people committing violent atrocities under the guise of Christianity, but they were clearly not following its laws.
In comparison, most of those atrocities would be acceptable, and even praised under the laws of Islam.


You are showing your naive, politically-correct perspective by stereotyping me as a racist bigot. The topic is religion, not race.
You claim my argument stems from a desire to "feel that way".. Well I could easily say the same about you and your desire to portray a socially acceptable viewpoint that is niether accurate, nor a product of your own intellect.

I would like a citation to see your sources. Thanks.

[TagMor]

http://www.quranexplorer.com/

[Mantra-Slider]

As-Salāmu `Alaikum gran!!!!!!!!!

[Ara]

Tagmor to Genoside:

You are showing your naive, politically-correct perspective by stereotyping me as a racist bigot. The topic is religion, not race.
You claim my argument stems from a desire to "feel that way".. Well I could easily say the same about you and your desire to portray a socially acceptable viewpoint that is niether accurate, nor a product of your own intellect.

crushed

ALLAH AKBAR

PS. the video sucks, propably made by some conservative american god
worshipping church clans, biased interpretations and a laughable pleed to
spread "gospel". Why can't we just let go of 2000 years old beliefes, I'm a
good person with out a frigging bible trying to tell me what to do.

[gran guerrero]

As-Salāmu `Alaikum gran!!!!!!!!!

yes hello to you too and god be with you and all that shebang

try reading post #20 again, slower this time.

no

[gran guerrero]

Look I can use google

Show me a New Testament quote that advocates violence or sit the fuck down idiot.

An example from the New Testament was requested that shows words of violence were spoken by Jesus, so I would consider the following an appropriate example:

Matthew 10: 34-36
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword.

For I have come to set a man 'against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;

and one's enemies will be those of his household."

If as you say that Jesus can only be compared with God then which God do you mean? Is this the same God that was written about in the Old Testament, a.k.a Yahweh, that asks his Chosen People to murder innocent civilians?

For example, "Deuteronomy 20 contains Yahweh's instructions about war. If a city does not accept Israel's offer of peace and open its gates, then 'when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it"(verse13). With regard to other cities, the command is (verse 16), "Do not leave anything that breathes.' "
And
"Joshua 11:20, 'For it was the Lord himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the Lord had commanded Moses.' "

Or is it the God whose Chosen people the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it [Jerico] - men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"(Joshua 6:21)?

(the above quotes come from http://www.ibs.org/bibles/about/9.php)

Does this mean I should stand up? I rather much stay in my seat, it's much more comfortable.