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  • #91
    Originally posted by Jerome Scuggs View Post
    Whoa... pull back on those reins cowboy. Not that Texas doesn't have a good tax model for attracting businesses, you have to stop and ask: What do Neveda, Arizona, Florida, and California all have in common?

    They're all States with economies strongly affected by the tourism industry.

    And, due to the climate in those States, they are ideal retirement locations.

    Furthermore, due to a lack of growth in the nation (GDP) since circa 1996, investment turned towards housing. However, housing development does not cause the GDP to grow.

    Futher consider that baby boomers are planning for retirement. And what do most think of retiring to?

    Warm climates; clear waters; sandy beaches; beautiful scenery; hiking.

    Not that Texas doesn't have beautiful scenery and a fairly decent climate, it just doesn't compare to those 4 States.

    And, I'm not even touching on foreigners with similar vacation spot interests -- even though they had huge affect on the number of foreclosures.

    And, when it comes to chosing which state to incorporate in, it doesn't matter. You can do that in any State without actually operating in that given State. There are plenty of attornies in any State that would be happy to be identified as an "Agent" for your company in that particular State. It's easy money for them.


    Personally, the only thing I would take from that article is that Texas has been holding strong. Why? Suprise! Suprise! Energy! Most energy companies are in Texas.

    The point is look at the industries, not the politics.

    California, Neveda, Florida, Arizona are America's playgrounds. When production becomes the focus due to a stagnated economy, it's no wonder these 4 States suffer, especially when the stagnation is global.
    Last edited by Tigron-X; 07-27-2010, 03:03 AM.

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    • #92
      Not that I would expect you to know anything about Texas but Energy isn't the only reason why we are a strong state economically. Low taxes, no state income tax, low property values, little or no union intervention and a very very strong medical, and technology fields also contribute to why Texas is the best state economically in the nation. And seeing as how I think more people are politically active than ever before in American Politics I wouldn't be surprised to see more people settle down in a state like Texas where they don't have to worry about getting their final savings taxed away from them little by little and can buy an actually decent sized house and/or property much cheaper than say California and Florida.

      If you knew about my states history you would know that we almost went bankrupt in the 80's during the oil bust and since then have decided to diversify our portfolio so it wouldn't happen again. This is why you shouldn't talk about what you have no clue about. Just a suggestion.
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      • #93
        And California failed because of failed policies, my uncle who just moved there says his water bill is close to like 500 dollars a month compared to the... 30 dollars or so that I pay. They tried giving people who retired from jobs the same pay for the rest of their lives and eventually it came back and bit them on the ass. They booted all their energy and technology and manufacturing companies out of the state by raising taxes on them to ridiculous proportions in the name of saving the environment. California is the quintessential state of central planning, trying for a culture of entitlement, taxing the rich, and planning ahead of a cap and trade future.

        There is a reason it is the poorest state, and it isn't because the overall economy is bad.
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        • #94
          What is this bullshit?

          "I live in Texas and you don't so I'm the expert when it comes to Texas?"

          You're trying to correct me, but all you're doing is adding to my argument.

          Let me try to step you through...

          I took the major industries from the respective States and compared them. Clearly, I didn't go into detail and list everything each State promotes/ is comprised of -- however the hell you want to cut it up. The distiction that needs to be made is:


          Those other States focus on entertainment, tourism, and luxury living; Texas does not. (Again, we're talking about *major* focuses.)

          Now, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're intelligent enough and educated enough to get this without me having to break down into examples like Disney World, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon etc.

          Why does this matter?

          Simply put, the demand to live in those other States is higher, but the ability to live in those States is harder. Too many service industries. To put it into perspective: One gets paid more to put together a Dell computer than it does to turn the sheets in a Hotel. Do you get what I'm saying? Due to the industries operating in Texas, there are better paying jobs on a wider scale.

          This is very attractive to middle-class America. Texas promotes a strong middle-class.

          In comparison to the entire nation, Texas is full of leading industries: e.g. Energy, Technologies, and Medicine. To put it into perspective: If this was 50yrs ago or more, we would be talking about Detroit and the automotive industry.

          If you think I'm trying to attack Texas or something like that. I'm not.

          Texas is full of opportunity. It's a great place to live. A great place to raise a family.

          I find issue with the article, not Texas. It's the industries in Texas that cause it to be prosperous. The government in Texas allows industry to thrive, but if it wasnt for the key specific industries in Texas it wouldn't be holding as strong as it is.

          And before you go on about how I don't know what I'm talking about because my location on the left there states Florida. I was born and raised in Texas you jackass. Try getting the point of an argument before attacking the person. Then maybe you can actually present an argument and have a discussion with someone.

          You pretty much restated the points of the article too.

          If all those industries moved out of Texas, Texas would be screwed.
          If the tourism industry moved out of those other states, Neveda is probablly the only one of the 4 that would be screwed.

          It's 2:30am, and I'm damn tired from working. I hope that made things a bit clearer.

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          • #95
            Yeah, I am sure that Arizona would fall apart if not for all that money from people visiting the Grand Canyon.

            Give me a break retard.

            Also, I am pretty certain that Medicine and Technology are a little safer bets than cars which hilariously enough once again failed because of liberal policies blaming them for causing "global warming" which I am putting into quotations because of how retarded it is.
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            • #96
              Seriously, you fucking fail at reading.


              And, no.. the automotive industry did not fail because of global warming beliefs. The fact that you would even write something so preposterous insults me more than calling me a retard for shit I didn't even say.
              Last edited by Tigron-X; 07-27-2010, 07:59 AM.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Tigron-X View Post
                Putting your foot down and ruling out science in the process because it doesn't fit your bigotry doesn't give you an argument. It makes you a fool.
                wtf are you talking about?
                You yourself said it was a development abnormality.
                From an absolute scientific perspective, homosexuals do not contribute to the gene pool. Homosexuality, if genetic, is not a desired evolutionary trait, and therefore IS A DYSFUNCTION.


                Personally, I think you're afraid of accepting the science because it would cause you to empathize, maybe even sympathize, with these unfortunate men and women
                I swear you are just copy and pasting this shit because it has no coherent relevance to my posts.
                Did you not see me compare Homosexuality to AIDS and the homosexual as the AIDS VICTIM?
                Victim. As in a person who suffers from a destructive or injurious action or agency.




                which would lead to certain self revelation, and not of the sexual kind. But instead, you project your fears onto homosexuals and attack them for the way they make you feel, and worst of all is that you're even so cowardice that you turn to the State to try and sweep it under the rug.
                Ya thats it. Everyone who criticises homosexuality is either a closet-fag or a coward.
                People cant actually be judgemental of the social and moral implications of widespread homosexuality, be concerned about raising children in a society where homosexuality is openly expressed and even promoted as being "cool", or even criticise homosexuality purely on the fundamental genetic/evolutionary basis.

                You know what that fear is? It's the fear of finding masculinity beautiful because you think it'll make you gay or that it means you're gay for having such thoughts or that the people around you will think you're gay.
                yeh you should try reading what I type instead of just creating delusional arguments in your head.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by TagMor View Post
                  wtf are you talking about?
                  You yourself said it was a development abnormality.
                  From an absolute scientific perspective, homosexuals do not contribute to the gene pool. Homosexuality, if genetic, is not a desired evolutionary trait, and therefore IS A DYSFUNCTION.
                  That's not a scientific perspectice. Just because you stick "scientific perspective" in front of your sentence doesn't make it so. And, they have the ability to contribute to the gene pool. But, reproduction isn't going to happen on accident for these folks as it does for heterosexuals.

                  And if you think homosexuals create homosexual babies, then don't even continue talking about this topic as if you're educated on the matter at all.



                  Originally posted by TagMor View Post
                  I swear you are just copy and pasting this shit because it has no coherent relevance to my posts.
                  Did you not see me compare Homosexuality to AIDS and the homosexual as the AIDS VICTIM?
                  Victim. As in a person who suffers from a destructive or injurious action or agency.
                  No, you're just absolutely disconnected from what you're saying because I saw you favor outlawing homosexuality.

                  Not to mention that you have to add another ailment just to express empathy for these people. I'm sure you're one of those religious nuts that blame the AIDS epedemic on homosexuals, not realizing you're just making them a scapegoat.



                  Originally posted by TagMor View Post
                  Ya thats it. Everyone who criticises homosexuality is either a closet-fag or a coward.
                  People cant actually be judgemental of the social and moral implications of widespread homosexuality, be concerned about raising children in a society where homosexuality is openly expressed and even promoted as being "cool",
                  Attacking people for the way they were born is not criticism. You clearly fear homosexuality -- evident by you identifying them as a threat to society and to children.

                  Homosexuality has absolutely nothing to do with morality.

                  Originally posted by TagMor View Post
                  or even criticise homosexuality purely on the fundamental genetic/evolutionary basis.
                  You clearly don't have the knowledge to make such criticisms, and I can tell just by the way you worded that sentence.


                  Originally posted by TagMor View Post

                  yeh you should try reading what I type instead of just creating delusional arguments in your head.
                  You're a bigot. You have no basis for your beliefs except religious ones. You abuse science and rape the English language to oppress these people for their condition. You fear they will have a negative affect on society. And you're willing to use force to stop these people from living their lives.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Tigron-X View Post
                    they have the ability to contribute to the gene pool. But, reproduction isn't going to happen on accident for these folks as it does for heterosexuals.

                    And if you think homosexuals create homosexual babies, then don't even continue talking about this topic as if you're educated on the matter at all.
                    You just implied that homosexuals, as a whole, could provide the environment necessary for healthy childhood development, and then claimed I'm not educated "on the matter".

                    This was the only semi-relevant point you made.
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                    • You can't be serious that Texas is making homosexuality illegal. Is this some kind of joke?
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                      • Hopefully not, we hate faggots here in Texas. Here in Houston we have em quarantined in a small section of the city called "Montrose" so they don't infect their faggotry and AIDS throughout the city.
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                          • i am about to hop in my truck and drive to longview, and then dallas, to see sublime

                            i'm gonna be fucking so many dudes in the ass
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                            • Originally posted by TagMor View Post
                              You just implied that homosexuals, as a whole, could provide the environment necessary for healthy childhood development, and then claimed I'm not educated "on the matter".

                              This was the only semi-relevant point you made.
                              Yes, a "whole" homosexual can provide such an environment, not that I would expect you to know the elements of such an environment.

                              Seriously, all of this is way over your head.

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                              • Originally posted by kthx View Post
                                Hopefully not, we hate faggots here in Texas. Here in Houston we have em quarantined in a small section of the city called "Montrose" so they don't infect their faggotry and AIDS throughout the city.
                                Yet, you hang out with them at Numbers on Tuesday nights.

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