The shark problem

[Subspacer2001]

I'm only interested in constructive arguments so I'm going to leave it here. The points have been made on both sides so thank you for your contributions, at least the earlier ones.

Thanks for participating.

I understand that it can be hard for a shark player to accept the reality and the actual facts that I stated in the first post of this topic. Maybe you should step out of your comfort zone and start learning to play and win games with some other ships than shark.

Have a nice day.

[Cape]

I haven't read if someone suggested this or not: Can we make the Shark mines and bombs do 80% damage, or random, instead of full? Shark is slightly OP for pub.

[Subspacer2001]

I haven't read if someone suggested this or not: Can we make the Shark mines and bombs do 80% damage, or random, instead of full? Shark is slightly OP for pub.

The limit system I suggested would solve everything. IMO they shouldn't have ever changed any settings, they we're just fine from the beginning. Original settings and original map, that is.. or was Trenchwars for me.

[godisdead]

I and many other like the new settings. Attach mode keeps even small games alive and not having to travel up from deepest subspace after each death is a welcome change. The weasel is better and the levs doesn't ruin games. The settings are about right as they are.

[Subspacer2001]

I and many other like the new settings. Attach mode keeps even small games alive and not having to travel up from deepest subspace after each death is a welcome change. The weasel is better and the levs doesn't ruin games. The settings are about right as they are.

Attachmode may be good sometimes until like max 4vs4 teams, depending of which ships are being used. With bigger teams attachmode is not needed and turns game into a mess. There is ship 5 which you can attach to.

[godisdead]

With bigger teams attachmode is not needed and turns game into a mess. There is ship 5 which you can attach to.

Quite often no one wants to play ship 5, or suddenly a teams terrier may leave the game (meaning no one can attach into base).

This is why attachmode is so often purchased by someone wanting to keep the game going, quite often the game can quickly break up and dissipate without it.

Its a great addition to the game and it's a shame no one thought of it earlier.

[Viruk]

Maybe the costs of game-changing modes should increase with number of active pub-freq players.

Perhaps we could alter the mine duration more dynamically too.

I would also like to see all mine damage not affected by the powerball and have a purepub option to remove the powerball power-up for a duration.

Possibly even have a mode that would double TK taxes and halve tolerance for TKs - this would be very useful with a lot of repped mines and bombs about.

I thought part of the purpose of pub was to let you learn/practice the ships used in leagues which would make basic changes to these ships a bad idea.

[Soldier13]

shark is part of the game, am not certain how to address that = there should be some staff discussion weather players get that or not uncertain

[damageinc86]

So you're sort of messing with the inherent checks of the game at this point as the developers intended.

Creators of SSCU Trench wars designed the zone and watched it flourish as a result of the inherent balance of strengths and weaknesses for each ship. Each ship has its strength and weaknesses which can be accentuated based on where you are.

Outside of the base, sharks are nearly useless and most ships can overpower them. Spawn, lower base, midbase area, etc. Inside the actual flagroom is where they have are the most powerful. However, even then they are still vulnerable. Sharks cannot bullet and can launch a slow moving bomb only in ideal circumstances (strictly full energy). A shark's primary foe in the flagroom is the spider. Someone shooting strong bullets at them at a rapid rate requiring them to use reps. You should reconsider how you view this game.

Do not lock sharks. Do not mess with the fundamentals of the game. And if all else fails and you're absolutely unable to continue...you have an actual bailout strategy that has worked for many: you can shove it up ur dikhole bud

thanks! Haha See you in the Trenches ! :-O) (honk honk). Tickle me I Smile

Exactly. The OG Trenchwars is the only zone I ever truly got into. All the others were wild and insane with just too much shit happening all the time. It was overload. Trenchwars was a bit slower paced, with phenomenal trade-offs of ship attributes. Shouldn't ever mess with those.