New Pub Settings for Levi and Weasel are too powerful I think

[Jessup]

Hey guys. Was this current pub setting meant to be a short term for fun setting or is this supposed to be the new permanent setting? Both Levi and Weasel in my opinion are way too overpowered. Was this done to try and emulate the legacy settings of old and if so, they are both done incorrectly. I'm just confused why this has happened. It's basically become a Lev and Weasel war now. The levs should NOT spawn in base and the recharge rate is slightly too fast still. The weasel needs to LOSE energy when cloaked and stealthed at the same time AND its bullet speed should be set to almost ZERO forward momentum. Also, if full cloak is in order for weasels they need to be set to regular size ships again. It is not making for a good pub experience right now .

[mystic_pizza]

we asked to revert to previous settings, and that is not quite what we got. we got much, much older settings... here is the difference:

CURRENT LEV:
- spawn in and out of base
- 4 reps, 1 port
- stealth

PREVIOUS LEV:
- always spawns out of base
- 2 reps, 1 port, 1 rocket
- stealth
- optional XRADAR



CURRENT WEASEL
- 1 rep, 1 rocket
- stealth, slows down energy regen
- cloak, massively slows down energy regen
- stealth + cloak = energy INCREASES

PREVIOUS WEASEL:
- 1 rep, 1 rocket
- stealth, slows down energy regen
- cloak, massively slows down energy regen
- stealth + cloak = energy DECREASES


currently levis seem overly powerful because they spawn in mid base regularly, have tons of reps, and can port out when being hunted. with previous settings, they'd spawn far from base and as a result were more likely to take the long way out to reach roof/side tubes to avoid getting killed. I understand the whole "pair with a terr if you want to counter weasels!" and while I agree, have you seen the population of pub this last year? theres barely barely 10 people playing, pairing with a terr is nice, but theres almost never anyone terring.

levs also had a chance to spawn with xradar, or purchase it, to counter weasels. right now, it is impossible to counter weasels as a Warbird, Spider, Leviathan, Weasel, or Lancaster because

1) you don't get xradar
2) weasels can simply be full-time cloaked AND their energy will still regenerate.

Weasels can simply be invisible 100% of the time and you can't do anything but switch ships, or be killed every 30 seconds.

Balancing suggestions:
- Levis spawn out of base only, except maybe in very low pop (<10 people)
- Levis lose 2 reps (2 instead of 4)
- Levis get a rocket
- Weasels lose energy when stealth + cloak, so they have to act fast if they want enough energy to shoot. they can't just be cloaked 24/7 anymore
- Weasels become much slower OR shoot yellow bullets.

[Duster8]

Mystic nailed it. I've asked a lot of players in game and I'd say over 90% agree. Also, it's definitely killing the zone lately.