Cloakers in ?go base

[Troll King]

So if the new weasels have ruined the cram, then doesn't that mean it'sno longer the best way at this time?

You see, you've almost got the point there: tactics change. What you have to realize is that it doesn't stop at cramming.

[Sumpson]

I hope it does, to me it is the most fun.

[Stabwound]

Well maybe the small holes were never meant as entrances, I wonder why there is still a map like this if 90% of the time is played in cram anyway.
I know that you can't do anything but cram Stabwound, you must have been one of the less talented sharks ever, but by just keep playing cram-shark over and over again you are a somebody now. If something dissolves the cram you would have to start all over again.

I know you don't like me, but even you know that making remarks like that is stupid.

[Melufa]

Zerzera has to make fucktarded critcisms to satiate his need to feel superior

you still suck shit though, stab

[Melufa]

oh yeah, holla atlanta

[SpiderMage]

Actually, solely cramming is not the best way to defend base, neither is solely lining.

Apparently weasels have altered the status quo because the weasel does not fit into the extreme of just cramming or just lining and thus, those that feel cramming is the ONLY and BEST way to defend, which sorry to say isn't the best, want it eliminated.

Cramming involves placing all or most of your forces in one of three categories. Either a) all in one spot(under the flag at entrance to flag room) to concentrate fire into that blanket window of fire. b) spread to thin in midbase to attempt to cut off the enemy before it can get to the flag room or c) a mixture of the two which can actually be effective.

Lining offers only one real category with variatious adjustments however it has the best defense against weasels since all your forces are in the flagroom and can take it down within a matter of a handful of seconds.

Fact is, weasel can out smart the cram and bait the line, so why hasn't anyone either made a third strategy or combined the two instead of just banning a ship because you can't defend against it with your thickheaded my-way-is-best strategy?

And actually what Dabram said is funny. A single Jav bomb can destroy a cram quite easily, bait the enemy shark with spider fire to waste his reps then boom. So why hasn't the Jav been banned since it like the Weasel, a "hinderance" to cramming?

[Zerzera]

I know you don't like me, but even you know that making remarks like that is stupid.

Didn't say I don't like you. I'm being honest.

[Sarien]

Looks like I was just a little ahead of the wave in my first posts. Is the weasel back in for sure or not?

Removing a ship (that was changed to the small version with the sole intent of it being sneaky) just so you can blindly use one tactic and not pay any attention to anything else is retarded. Ultra Retarded. Narrow Minded. Unimaginative. Tell your fucking terrier to turn on X-Radar and watch for X, if it distracts from the cram? GOOD. That means the ship is working to its intended purpose.

I don't really doubt that you had something to do with the removal, Stabwound. Look at the beginnings of this thread, you were one of the more vocal opponents and then just came down out of the blue with how it was going to be removed, and that was supposed to be that.

[Stabwound]

I have no power to make changes. All I know was that it was announced on the staff chat that weasels were going to be disabled, and then I came on here and said it.

[Jeenyuss]

Well I saw Dameon usin' it in ?go base the other night. I assumed it was back. I still strongly believe the ban should be lifted, if not in bds, than atleast in ?go base.

[Crash24]

This can all be fixed by making a new arena with no weasels and javs and ZZ's cram-happy map:
?go cram

There the crammers can cram to their heart's content and the others who can actually think outside the box can ?go base. Stabwound and his ilk won't have to worry about those itty bitty wittle weasles again.

oh btw first post

[Dameon Angell]

Well I saw Dameon usin' it in ?go base the other night. I assumed it was back. I still strongly believe the ban should be lifted, if not in bds, than atleast in ?go base.

I was the first and last basing weasel. Bring it back bitches.

[Soldier13]

LOL?

It's called BASING not CRAMMING. Bring the weasel back. Fuck these weak squads that refuse to adapt because the only thing they ever learnt was how to cram.
Maybe we should force a 5 spider-rule aswell, javs make the job of sharks very difficult, and sometimes they blow up the cram in 1 shot, we shouldn't let this be allowed! Also terrs should not get portals, it's very lame how some terrs can efficiently use portals to warp into the flagroom.
Free lineups for everyone. Unlimited shipchanges.

This is true, it doesent take brains or skill to sit around a 3 tile wide entrance and repeat the same tactic that can only be broken if they somehow messup or the lags get all shifty. The only better defence other than cram would be....finding a 2 tile entrance somewhere?? Hell why don't they just block off acess to the base completely and whoever loses fr first after warp in ear loses the whole match.

They should prolly have that because atm this is why no one really cares about who wins the leagues in this zone. Or even who wins what twd matches, they can be fun sometimes jus to hang out with the squad and have a few moments of joy in the fr. When one team or the other gets kicked out its pretty much "hell this is boring lets soften up this cram so they get in and mby the match will get more interesting than this pile of feces"


Weasel was one of the alternative for breaking this shit and 'f*ing' it up, people care too much about who plays what ship in this zone and think "OH IM WEASEL OMGS LOLOL" or "OMG HES WEASEL!? WTF WEASEL SUX". Grow up and like there should be a continuous creation of many alternitave tactics to be used against any move an enemy uses to allow creativity, skill, and to be able to say "i used 1% of my brain on that one, this zone isnt completely shit and i dont have to be one of those pub ppl who leaves it as soon as they find out its stupid and the graphics and explosions no longer do anything for them. This can be done by testing out more maps and having more fun in the porcess?? I dunno after a few years it just gets sadistic to see this same bs. Like what is there to prove keeping this zone the same all the time? Is this like a wife a person is trying to stay loyal to? jesus

[Dameon Angell]

If people are having such a shit fit that they can't see the weasel. I have 2 solutions.

1. Get a terrier who knows how to press 'end'
2. Remove the cloaking capability and give it more energy. It'll still cause a riot to the cram diverting its attention, same with the terrier.

[SaucyKing]

If people are having such a shit fit that they can't see the weasel. I have 2 solutions.

1. Get a terrier who knows how to press 'end'
2. Remove the cloaking capability and give it more energy. It'll still cause a riot to the cram diverting its attention, same with the terrier.

Well said.

Oh and whoever said that thing about javs ruining a cram, that's only if your sharks are incompetent and don't know how to alternate. And a cram that lasts forever is no fun anyway; both teams would have more fun if the whole match was a hectic battle in the flag room, not just an impassable rep line with twenty WBs behind it, with the other team sitting there getting the shit shot out of them and not getting any points.

That's just my opinion anyway.