Weasel Nerf'd

[PH]

I only wish I was that proficient at doing actual money shots. But alas, my facials come in the form of three L3 bullets travelling at mind-blowing speeds.

[Cops]

thrust shots are like doing the money shot.

[CloudHelmut]

sez you i guess. lol

edit to make useful post:

I actually like the shark as is, my finesse ain't bad. I usually play WB, then shark or terr depending on team need, weasel for x hunting. My shark suggestion was if we wanted to add a "light bomber" to the game.

[Troll King]

Sharks are fine as they are. They are very much a finesse ship and changes like that will only produce more players who think they can fly the ship but can't.

[CloudHelmut]

I agree SpiderMage, I wouldn't want the weasel totally overhauled like that. I'd prefer if the shark got a little forward velocity on their bombs-maybe with lower damage and more mines allowed.

Like I said, I kind of like Kolar's second idea - if the Weasel's bullet can be made fast and no spread. Re: reverting size- I am so used to the small weasel it feels wierd when I go to other arenas now, lol.

I've maybe seen you in the pubs, didn't know it was your preference. B)

[SpiderMage]

Spidermage, I think Kolar's 1) was suggesting making the weasel a support bomber instead of an assassin. I personally would prefer a little tweak of the shark to make it a support bomber. And the jav is already a support bomber really.

Kolar, your number 2) point doesn't sound bad. Though I would prefer a single line faster bullet for my assassin. If you are going to slow rotation and ship speed, the weasel should be more sure of his shot not getting dodged.

BTW, I might be the only poster here who plays pretty much exclusively in pub. And hey, it's my one year usage anniversary in 3 days. Time flies when you are playing a 2D top down space shooter. Heh.

No I play only pub too, save for hosted events.

And there's already too many support bombers(Javs and Sharks), Weasel shouldn't be made into a 'poor man's Javelin' just like it shouldn't be a poor man's Lanc. Weasel is supposed to be the most unique ship and it's losing it's uniqueness just so everyone can defend against it better.

[Cops]

nazi white trash.

[Theif of Time]

Levi isn't support bomber, its a heavy bomber. and IMO neither is jav, its bomb kills in one hit so its hardly weak enough to be called support.
Incidentally, this thread has more views than the TWstaff FAQ.

[Fluffz]

there already is a support bomber, its the levi. back than, befor the levi was banned from pure, one of my suggestions was to give it an emp bomb instead, making it more helpfull and less deadly. its a simpel change, reducing the levi damage. why would u turn the cloaker into a bomber when we have a bomber who is locked away?

general problem is, any change on emp bombs would also change the shark. so a lot of things are limited with this idea. there is a global value that makes emp bombs weaker than normal bombs. also the emp duration is the same for all bombs. and thats the only two values to define the emp upgrade. afaik.

[deutschpunkrevolte]

30 invisible super bombs

what is an invisible super bomb?

[SaucyKing]

dont have to say anything my signature covers it. why do you wanna go around with unlimited invisibility killing everyone who cant even see you, damn.

here if you really want to play that way ill tell you what to do. you must go to all five safes, and in each, type this: Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A. then you must shoot every rock in the arena 3 times without dieing. this is a cheat code that will give you 30 invisible super bombs

I don't know if this has been said but

It's up, up, down, doen, left, right, left, right, B, A, START

Ass.

[CloudHelmut]

Spidermage, I think Kolar's 1) was suggesting making the weasel a support bomber instead of an assassin. I personally would prefer a little tweak of the shark to make it a support bomber. And the jav is already a support bomber really.

Kolar, your number 2) point doesn't sound bad. Though I would prefer a single line faster bullet for my assassin. If you are going to slow rotation and ship speed, the weasel should be more sure of his shot not getting dodged.

BTW, I might be the only poster here who plays pretty much exclusively in pub. And hey, it's my one year usage anniversary in 3 days. Time flies when you are playing a 2D top down space shooter. Heh.

[SpiderMage]

Cops is my brother... he's just being a jerk to me for some reason :turned:. Sounds like a good idea Theif. Getting some ideas down like new settings and something that outlines the intented basing function of the ship.

1:Support bomber:
low/almost no damage EMP bomb -faster then a shark bomb, Lanc bullets, same rotation, slower speed.

2:Addition to Current settings:
Addition to the current settings with slower speed, reverting the size, slower draining for cloak and stealth, slower rotation, and same weapons. The idea of this would be to bring it back into the assasian class but balancing it for basing use.

Right now I think it has no use at all and never really did. Yeah it can't interfere with basing but we've solved that by making the ship, unintentionally, into a suicide bomber. It's hard to tell from the comparatively small amount of time with these settings how much that will effect the publics. The drain imo still serves it purpose well.

How in the world can it be an assassin with Lanc bullets and little to no damage EMP bombs? Assassins are supposed to be able to kill with one hit on their own, not be some little knat that will maybe kill this guy if his energy is low enough.

[Theif of Time]

probably being a jerk cos... thats what brothers are for.
Would anyone reading this happen to know if level 2 bombs can be set to lower damage than level 1 bombs?

[Kolar]

Cops is my brother... he's just being a jerk to me for some reason :turned:. Sounds like a good idea Theif. Getting some ideas down like new settings and something that outlines the intented basing function of the ship.

1:Support bomber:
low/almost no damage EMP bomb -faster then a shark bomb, Lanc bullets, same rotation, slower speed.

2:Addition to Current settings:
Addition to the current settings with slower speed, reverting the size, slower draining for cloak and stealth, slower rotation, and same weapons. The idea of this would be to bring it back into the assasian class but balancing it for basing use.

Right now I think it has no use at all and never really did. Yeah it can't interfere with basing but we've solved that by making the ship, unintentionally, into a suicide bomber. It's hard to tell from the comparatively small amount of time with these settings how much that will effect the publics. The drain imo still serves it purpose well.