Top leaders of tw

[Lemon]

Wix

[Jrahen]

Sumpson & Jeansi.

[Kings]

I was counting on you to say my name jra

[geekbot]

What makes a good leader?

Interesting how the answer is different at work/in organizations than in a squad. I have only been in a few leadership positions but I know what I want in a leader. We probably all have opinions.

I want a leader that has vision- knows where a group should be headed and motivates/directs the group towards it. Understands the challenges- from moving up the ranks and/or keeping in touch with what the day-to-day problems are (without getting in the way). Is fair/understands people- the ones you are leading are people and you have to be able to encourage/resolve issues/etc well.

In subspace there can be a direction of a squad but it's generally less formal- winning TWL, etc. It's more important to help create an environment that's fun or focused on winning or whatever is appropriate.

Doing the dirty work/sacrificing is probably more important in Subspace. There's less of a heirarchy is Subspace, the "leaders" are also the one's in the trenches. I'd be a terrible leader because TW is my time to relax and be lazy, not spend time running a squad. Props to those guys (and staff) willing to spend time making it more fun for the rest of us.

Being fair/working with people is obviously very important (maybe the most in SS). Maybe the difference is squad leadership is "flatter" than companies or other organizations tend to be (if your boss can directly affect your salary, that quickly imposes a level of heirarchy).

[Hark]

Sumpson.

The end.

[death row]

Wix

lol lemon

[Cig Smoke]

Lemon must be goin nutz! No one actualy liked Wix as a leader :P He was just there and always mean =(


Those that r saying Dele&squadless. I'd agree if they could actulay keep a squad alive for a WHOLE TWL season. Somehow they always seem to get the same core of players every single time they restart a squad and they somehow always seem to have a good wb line no matter how many times they kill a squad.

[Dealt]

Best leaders.. KJW and Val were great to play under in my opinion, guess disq is one of the most successful

[Ephemeral]

I liked Wix, and he was always nice to me. He owned in virtually every ship, and I would rank he very high in all time best players in this game. While it is true that I might not rank him in the top squad leaders, I would say that he ranks higher than most.

I have seen him be ugly towards some players, but it was with keeping with the general Crips attitude of, "I'll start being nicer when you start being smarter."

[ajaxee]

Cig smoke and Rosstones did a good job for a while. and when cig is in the "leading mode" he does mega extra work to keep things running smooth. no staying power though as we all know.
and i doubt any of you know him, but heavensent did a great job keeping things fun and new for a 8 months or so.

Rand is good, but he has been hit with several sexual harrasment suits in the last few months.

[M_M God]

Louis XV and Wix surely knew how to run a squad.

[Cig Smoke]

Cig smoke and Rosstones did a good job for a while. and when cig is in the "leading mode" he does mega extra work to keep things running smooth. no staying power though as we all know.
and i doubt any of you know him, but heavensent did a great job keeping things fun and new for a 8 months or so.

Rand is good, but he has been hit with several sexual harrasment suits in the last few months.

GTFO and take ur clothes off THX

[Ephemeral]

What makes a good leader?

Geek makes a good point, although I differ with him on a few details. In the context of leadership there is some, but not much, common ground between leading men IRL and leading boys in an anonymous internet game.

The biggest difference is the fact that IRL people are made responsible for their behavior while in this community there is little of that, and this is substantial. Being responsible for your own actions is also a sign of maturity. Again, not a lot of that in this community.

Simply put, many players hide behind the anonymous nature of the internet and care little about anyone but themselves. They do not show loyalty, sportsmanship, or even basic consideration of others. What does it take to be a leader of these kinds of people? I would call that more a babysitting challenge then a leadership challenge.

[Zerzera]

Actually it's somewhat ironic that this current message board has pretty much the same policies that CoT had on his own TW message board (which were heavily criticized back then), but since the obvious target of CoT is gone (and replaced by a faceless 'forum staff')

Yeah, where did wadi go?

[Kuukunen]

The biggest difference is the fact that IRL people are made responsible for their behavior while in this community there is little of that, and this is substantial. Being responsible for your own actions is also a sign of maturity. Again, not a lot of that in this community.

I've thought about these things for a couple of times and I think the internet is, in a way, a world of it's own where people have a different identity. (However it's much much easier to get a new identity.) IRL, there is IRL responsibility. In Subspace, it's Subspace resonsibility. If you steal a car, you go to jail. If you cheat, you get banned. It's much easier to forget what someone you can only identify by a short piece of text has said compared to someone you have seen and heard, but people do remember. If you whine, people will think of you as a whiner. If you talk shit and throw insults at everyone, people will think of you as an idiot and will ignore you. Even though nothing stops you from registering a new nick and pretend to be someone else, usually people don't do it that much beacause then people won't know you and think of you as a newb.