designing subarenas

[duel pasta]

I would like to try it! I'm open for everything.

[D1st0rt]

http://sscx.net/asss

[Kolar]

I think you misinterpreted what I said about that. I don't mean that after a year it can only support 50 people, I was just using the number you provided.

Try to be more clear and don't bother with explaining your self if you got the point across. So after 1 year give or take a few days it can support 50 people rather then 30, or currently approximately 50 players continuously supported.

It runs on windows as well, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. There are a lot of people that don't like windows, and right now they are forced to use it. Giving people an option of what OS to use will fragment continuum? I think you're maybe blowing this a little out of proportion?

The goal of the developers is to disallow Windows clients from connecting to their biller and converting all current SSC zones to their server software, also disallowing windows clients from connecting. It's fine, go help them with it but you probably should know what their plans are for Continuum, even if it probably will never be stable enough to out do Subgame2.

What?! How can you be so cold to people working so hard for the community? You do realize PriitK has effectively sanctioned the project by helping to implement continuum encryption support for it, right? If Priit himself had released his client earlier, before it was done, would you have said the same thing? I don't understand why you have this hostility towards ASSS, it is a very nice piece of software. There's no conspiracy as you seem to insinuate, just new possibilities. Please don't burn me at the stake for staying open to the future.

I think most people are offeneded by the goals of the ASSS team for one and by their lack of stablily when claiming otherwise or believeing that it could and would out do Subgame... when it has worked good enough for a long time. I don't think it will become more popular then todays servers but before you want to insult anyone questioning the project maybe you should read into what their goals are, what they plan to do next. Continuum was needed at the time aswell as BanG and other things Priit has contibuated, I don't see this as needed, vitial or even stable enough in the future for Subspace. There's a hell of a difference here. I'm open to change here Distort but I don't think these guys are it.

this is also not a conspiracy, I talked with grelminar less then a year ago and he was quite open to discussing this with anyone.

[D1st0rt]

I can see it is pointless to continue this conversation. Thanks though

[qan]

The goal of the developers is to disallow Windows clients from connecting to their biller and converting all current SSC zones to their server software, also disallowing windows clients from connecting. It's fine, go help them with it but you probably should know what their plans are for Continuum, even if it probably will never be stable enough to out do Subgame2.

Where has this been stated? I have never heard this in my life, and I don't think anyone else has, either. If this is their goal, then their goal is to kill Continuum. I'm not saying you're wrong; it seems extremely improbable, however. Why work that hard to destroy a game? Perhaps you have misunderstood what they intend?

It doesn't matter what operating system the server code is written in, as clients could potentially be written for any operating system. Currently the only thing solid enough to run is Continuum/SS on Windows, and it can connect to any server that properly communicates the needed information, simple as that. The developers of ASSS I am sure fully intend ASSS to replace the hack of a server most zones are currently running. When it does become stable, it would mean that we can finally change the server software to suit us, rather than relying on the insanely tedious process of writing and most likely hex editing in code. You may have confused this with the intention to make all clients Linux-based.

But developers simply do not do this kind of thing you suggest. Destruction is not the aim of such projects. It provides no recognition, is respected by no-one. Coders respect one another immensely, and if this project were to be going the direction you so adamantly suggest, the developers would be relentlessly lambasted by anyone who's so much as has thought of developing for Continuum.

I'd like to have a conversation with the ASSS developers about their intentions, and will forward this thread over to grel for when he gets back, and other ASSS developers. Even if their intentions are an evil secret, perhaps we can see through their lies? :>

[Kolar]

Where has this been stated? I have never heard this in my life, and I don't think anyone else has, either. If this is their goal, then their goal is to kill Continuum. I'm not saying you're wrong; it seems extremely improbable, however. Why work that hard to destroy a game? Perhaps you have misunderstood what they intend?

He was very clear about it, I did press him and challange his ideas, he defended them. I'm sure it's not posted or noted anywhere, how could they get support for it from people like you and me if we knew this is where it's leading too? He said he wanted to "not allow Windows-Continuum Client from connecting to ASSS in future developments." and make Subspace into a Linux only game. Also making a primary biller for it, sperate from SSC, that no Windows clients or servers could connect to.. that's what I meant by fragmenting SS development and the comunity. I don't think I misunderstood anything from him.

But developers simply do not do this kind of thing you suggest. Destruction is not the aim of such projects. It provides no recognition, is respected by no-one. Coders respect one another immensely, and if this project were to be going the direction you so adamantly suggest, the developers would be relentlessly lambasted by anyone who's so much as has thought of developing for Continuum.

Maybe that's why they're having trouble find support from zones and players, I dont know but he was very clear about where he wants Continuum to be in the future..

[Ewan]

who is "he"

[Rumpnisse]

who is "he"

It's the mysterious Continuum HAxx00r who wants Continuum DEAD <_<

[duel pasta]

It's the mysterious Continuum HAxx00r who wants Continuum DEAD <_<

I thought that was you

[Kuukunen]

IT IS ME! :fear:

[duel pasta]

IT IS ME! :fear:

I always knew it was you

[D1st0rt]

grelminar, the creator of ASSS, actually

[Rumpnisse]

grelminar, the creator of ASSS, actually

why the hell wanna destroy Continuum? FAGGASS

[D1st0rt]

Exactly. I find this very difficult to believe.

[duel pasta]

Why would anyone try to destory continuum? taht's just stupid