Elim 2.0 Discussion

[milosh]

Yes it's back to back kills within 5 seconds. You can get up to a septuple kill. I didn't add any higher than that since I don't see how it would be possible to get 8 in a row unless you're cheating. If someone accomplishes it let me know and I'll be glad to add it . I could track both statistics but the website is getting pretty full... I'm not sure how many more columns will fit unless I make the table even smaller. The font is already pretty small and may cause some viewers to get squinty eye syndrome. :P

[riske]

What do you mean by duplicate kill exactly? Killing several people back to back quickly? If so, how does that work exactly? Is it a certain amount of time inbetween kills, or, multiple kills in a row without shooting and missing? on a side note about that, I think both of those things would be cool to keep track of if its not too troublesome to code.

[milosh]

I don't think you quite understand what I'm asking. I can either keep the statistic that shows the best duplicate kill streak you've ever gotten... or I can change it and make it the amount of duplicate kill streaks you've ever gotten.

[Xp.]

That's possible, but it's definitely a lot more work. Best duplicate kill means best double kill winning streak... like (triple kill!, quadruple kill!) etc. Would you guys rather have the best streak or the number of duplicate kills?

I say streaks all the way!!!! that is much more of a accomplishment then a feuw lagshots/spawns

[milosh]

That's possible, but it's definitely a lot more work. Best duplicate kill means best double kill winning streak... like (triple kill!, quadruple kill!) etc. Would you guys rather have the best streak or the number of duplicate kills?

[MetalKid]

I don't think that's fair to the people playing. Hopefully the casual arenas will become popular enough that waiting won't seem so bad.

Oh that's right. Now there is that thing. N/m, forgot about that.


Would it be possible on the elim webpage to drill into the individual games to see everyone that played? I think the old elim site had that, along with everyone's rating change for that game.

What does Best Duplicate Kill mean?

[milosh]

Because I didn't want to have to wait that long. No one has even reached 300 yet. I'll set it to 500 at the final release.

EDIT: Spacely reached the rankings.

Upcoming changes:

• The calculation for Aim is currently off as you can tell. I need to fix that.
• Kill races have been implemented but I still need to add an informative message for them and remove the unnecessary PM at the end of the game.
• I will make it so that the spawn area is in the competitive box and casual players get warped to eliminate the double warp everyone complains about.
• I have added more statistics, but I will be adjusting them and adding statistics here and there. You can view the statistic descriptions by hovering over the column acronym.

[Sirius]

Milosh, how come you made combined kill/deaths to 300 instead of 500?

[milosh]

I don't think that's fair to the people playing. Hopefully the casual arenas will become popular enough that waiting won't seem so bad.

[MetalKid]

Any chance on the !sudden thing I mentioned before? I'm not sure if you saw it:

I know what this bot still needs! A sudden death option! When 2 players get to the end, sometimes they both have very low deaths. This means it will take a long time for the game to complete. Often times, it is nice to have a sudden death game, so next kill wins. It would be nice to not have to play that scenario out all the way to the end because it'll end up being very boring and could last 10+ minutes. But now we have no way of doing a sudden death thing because if you have a good ratio and spec, you'll lose everything.

[milosh]

Thanks for the ideas guys...

I feel that an extra voting period for just race vs. elimination would get annoying after a while. You'd have to wait even more time before the start of each game for a mode that is relatively rarely played. Your idea was interesting riske, but it eliminates the chance to vote on how many kills must be reached for the race. I think I'm going to go with the plus 10 option with a simple message that says something similar to "For a kill race add ten to your vote."
That way I can make the bot change the death voting period to a kill voting period(since it's prior to it), and it gives you the option to play a kill race in any of the allowed ships.

[riske]

Hey dont forget about belim! we would like to have race too x amount of kills too!


You could make the voting something like this to try to keep down the spam

vote which ship

vote deaths 1-10 for a regular elimination, 15 for race.

[Zeebu]

Hmmm mil, maybe in the beginning vote on type of game, as in: 1-Standard Elim or 2-Race. Then have the ship choices and what not. It's an extra step, but at least it's prettier.

or, dont bother having races of anything other than anyship or possibly wb

[Vehicle]

Hmmm mil, maybe in the beginning vote on type of game, as in: 1-Standard Elim or 2-Race. Then have the ship choices and what not. It's an extra step, but at least it's prettier.

[milosh]

Well, the bot reads the ship types from a configuration file. (Example: 1,3,4,7,9 translates to 1-Warbird, 3-Spider, 4-Leviathan, 7-Lancaster, 9-Any Ship), so for race options on each ship I would probably just add 10 to each. Voting options in game would be the above plus 11-Warbird(Race), 13-Spider(Race), 14-Leviathan(Race), 17-Lancaster(Race), 19-Any Ship(Race).

It wouldn't be that difficult to accomplish, but as you can see that's a lot of ugly spam on your screen at the start of each game. Perhaps I could just add the options without the text and include something like "For kill races add 10 to an option".

I've added more statistics to the website(I'll implement them for !stats in-game soon). For a description of what the cryptic acronyms mean just hover your mouse over them.