stop banning me

[tragiK]

double squadded for a night, banned within a few hours on both names. 2 week ban. whatever, signed up another name, banned within 2 days. ban extended 11 days.

look, whatever, i broke the rules, ban me. but 2 weeks? extended 11 days? come on, is the zone gonna be alive in a month? maybe i would've respected a 3 day ban, but 2 weeks? dude.

i understand mods are there to keep the peace and whatnot, but considering the dire straits that trenchwars is in, perhaps it is high time they reevaluate what's important and what's not.

for starters, anyone that says the first three letters of 'night' more than once is guaranteed at least a 1 day ban. in a drunken stupor once i believe i said it about 5 times in a span of 5 lines and got a 3 day ban for it. naturally this is the easiest thing to ban for because it's "racism" - but one has to ask, how many black people actually play this game? 3? how many times do we see "gook" and "chink" and nothing ever gets done about that? i argue that at least 15-20% of the population of trenchwars is asian, perhaps that's actually a more worthwhile term to look for.

just something to think about.

secondly, is double squadding during the offseason that big of an offense? for christs sake, we're not qualifying for twl here, that's the next reset. what double squadding effectively does during offseason is 1. results in higher twd activity and 2. gives people more practice. sure, put stringent dsing rules in place during the twl reset / twl season, that's for good reason, but offseason?

third, as a frequent double squadder / aliaser during previous offseasons, often times with decent ladder squad and a bottom-feeder (dingus, my little ponies, deadly divas, etc), what that effectively does is show the newer players on the lower-ranked squads what it feels like to win a twd against a good squad, what it means to be competitive against the likes of dice, fierce, sweet, etc. otherwise, they just don't have a chance, and are much more likely to just give up after a few weeks as opposed to really latching on to this game and its community. it's fun to play with a good player that covers your back, it's cool to watch your teammate win a 1v3 end of game, it's a good learning experience to team with them, etc. where else do you find guys like riverside, who seemingly came out of nowhere last season to suddenly be a starting twld wb?

fourth, two weeks + 11 days = 25 days? you serious? prior to twdt i had about two months where i just didn't play the game, maybe log on once every few days to play a few elim games at night. i reckon this is what a lot of people who lose interest in this game do now. maybe they show up again for twl, but every season we have less and less squads. especially in twd, which in turn reduces twl population.


and you are banning one of the most active people in tw, one of the most contributing non-staff members of tw, for pretty much A MONTH? for double squadding, which hurts nobody but helps many?


i was already planning to fade into obscurity again after twdt is over, but perhaps it might happen before that.

again, i double squadded, i admit that, i broke the rules. but the severity of that offense given the current offseason and the current state of trenchwars, nowhere near approaches that of the length of ban. if there were 10 people left in trench wars, would you ban one of them double squadding? for racism? how about if there were 20 people? 50? 100? when's the cutoff, and when should you start rethinking the reason for these bans.

25 days? staff (read: stabwound), perhaps you should reconsider.

[Ara]

Are you a twdt captain? Grow up

[PH]

thank god, now i can print out your staff app

i was running out of toilet paper

[Ilya]

this is an outrage

free lindsay lohan

[kthx]

ITT: Ara compares maturity real life based on twdt captaining status.

[Nockm]

Tips for making the other side see your point:

1. Make it concise and to the point. (It takes time to do so.)
2. Appear calm and not in the middle of a rage. (Did very well there but I still sense it!)
3. Don't make nonsensical statements! (The moment people see something dumb, they'll assume the rest is just the same.)

Take care, and happy ranting!

[Vys]

I don't see why players can't be on more than one squad during off season. I remember the days in 03/04 when I used to join the a "newbie" squad aswell as my main squad. It helped newer players pick up alot of warbird from me and also it gave the will to practice and get better to get my attention and then I could mention their name to the captain of my main squad as a possible recruit.
There's like 6 teams of my knowledge who are actually competing in twdd. We need to make a drastic change and actually look at the some of the reasons players are dropping from the game like flies.
Yes, we can mention about the age of the game and the graphics compared to the newer games released these days. But look at the game play in 03/04, before all this automated shit and the Nazis who run this game, who think they are doing things greater for the zone.
It's not fun for lesser squads to get stomped 50-24 by the better squads. They have no chance of getting better. Back in the day elim, wbduel and twd, all had skilled competitive people playing in them and the lesser skilled players had a chance to interact with the vets of the time. Now all the competative players refuse to play newbie squads in twd and the newer players have no way of competing with good players. Let's face it, they won't get added onto a twdt team or even see a twl.
Now let's look at our peak years and what the game entailed back then:

1. No automated bots in events. We need more player to staff interaction.
2. Less of the Nazi shit by staff. It's a free game, who are you guys to make all these changes without doing ingame polls. (not everyone logs onto these forums)
3. Remove the racism rule entirely. We all know the ?ignore command. Do people seriously get offended from someone on an online game?

Rant over bla bla you cheat bla bla go quit the game for the 100th time. Just getting in there before the trolls do

[Xog]

I remember a long time ago like in 2005 or 2004 I was bored and did a ?help can u please silence blah because he's being racist and weaver wound up telling me to use ?ignore. lol

[roxxkatt]

ITT: racist idiot tries to get unbanned because hes special

[PH]

is the zone gonna be alive in a month?

hopefully not

for starters, anyone that says the first three letters of 'night' more than once is guaranteed at least a 1 day ban. in a drunken stupor once i believe i said it about 5 times in a span of 5 lines and got a 3 day ban for it.

"i was drunk" is second only to "my sibling got on my name while i was taking a shit" in terms of pathetic excuses i've seen in this scenario

one has to ask, how many black people actually play this game? 3?

why does that matter? are you saying they deserve less protection from the rules simply because fewer of them play? a+ logic

how many times do we see "gook" and "chink" and nothing ever gets done about that?

every time a cheater call came in regarding these terms when i was on staff they got handled, stop exaggerating

i argue that at least 15-20% of the population of trenchwars is asian, perhaps that's actually a more worthwhile term to look for.

again, are you saying discrimination against you is a more severe offense simply because there are more of you? you're an idiot

for christs sake, we're not qualifying for twl here, that's the next reset.

way to be wrong, check stabwound's june 20th update on the twd site

herp derp people will quit if they can't win!!!!!

i've never seen anyone quit just because they lose in twd

where else do you find guys like riverside, who seemingly came out of nowhere last season to suddenly be a starting twld wb?

riverside is from svs, there was almost no learning curve for him so i don't see what your point is

and you are banning one of the most active people in tw, one of the most contributing non-staff members of tw, for pretty much A MONTH? for double squadding, which hurts nobody but helps many?

all i've really seen you contribute is headaches for those involved in twdt, which you are hopelessly obsessed with, so for you to receive a lengthy ban for double squadding during twl qualifications is a-ok with me

i was already planning to fade into obscurity again after twdt is over, but perhaps it might happen before that.

door's to your left

again, i double squadded, i admit that, i broke the rules. but the severity of that offense given the current offseason and the current state of trenchwars, nowhere near approaches that of the length of ban.

again, this is twl qualification, double squadders deserve whatever punishment they get during this offseason

if there were 10 people left in trench wars, would you ban one of them double squadding? for racism? how about if there were 20 people? 50? 100? when's the cutoff, and when should you start rethinking the reason for these bans.

how about you just learn to follow simple rules instead of playing "what if" like a fucking retard

are we done here?

[McVicar]

Kong'd in quotes

[Stabwound]

The length of time you were doing it for is meaningless, because if I didn't ban you then you would have just kept doing it until TWL or even later. 2 weeks is the standard ban for doublesquadding. I didn't see that you evaded it until 4 days later when you'd already played several games on the newest name, so I added the 4 back + another week for evading it. I'm not sure why you thought you'd get away with it when you got banned almost instantly the first time. Look, I'll remove the extra week, but you're still keeping the 14+4 days ban.

See, this is exactly why doublesquadding bans are 2 weeks or longer, because people think they're going to get away with it and probably have in the past when our methods of catching people were far less advanced. 3 days is hardly enough to deter anyone from doing it, but now I bet you won't do it again, right? I hope not, because a second offence doublesquadding ban is generally 2 months.

secondly, is double squadding during the offseason that big of an offense? for christs sake, we're not qualifying for twl here, that's the next reset. what double squadding effectively does during offseason is 1. results in higher twd activity and 2. gives people more practice. sure, put stringent dsing rules in place during the twl reset / twl season, that's for good reason, but offseason?

I see the "off-season" thing was already covered by PH. This isn't the off-season, no, so most of your argument falls apart right there. Besides, allowing it during the off-season would just create a nightmare for TWD ops because you know people wouldn't just voluntarily leave their second squads when the TWD season started, and then we have 1000 people with 2 TWD accounts. It's already a big enough pain in the ass to track this stuff. No, just no. For probably the first time in the history of TWD the whole doublesquadding thing has been kept on top of and we're not going to screw with it now.

However, on the racism subject, I have been pushing to make racism no longer a bannable offence unless it's used in player names or squads. Instead, it would be a silence for the amount of time you'd normally be banned for. Actually, "War" is currently on a 3-day silence for continued abuse of ?help and racism. We're not going to just allow people to be racist assholes, but I think getting silenced is better than getting banned altogether.

[kthx]

I would rather be banned than silenced honestly, unless its just a public arena silence. I think talking is the only reason a large majority of people actually login anymore.

[tragiK]

this is twl reset? ok, my mistake, i concede my position. by the way ph, you're still a douche.

as for the staff application, pretty sure ara told me "we review applications at the end of every month" - i applied like 6 weeks ago. continued to message ara ("any word on staff application?), no reply. guess i got denied. whatever, no biggie, but you're not gonna use that as an argument point against me.

at any rate, got my ban reduced. afk

[kthx]

yo tragik how about you act more befitting of your title as twdt captain, for god sakes you are making a mockery of the draft league, and trench wars.