why cramming rules...

[Eeks]

Originally posted by Yojo
For anyone who cares, mythrandir invented the so called "cram", except it wasn't called that then. He used it when basing was still held in a private arena, and his overly-agressive style led him into filling the entrance with people. Eventually, it became more and more known and it was taken public, where somewhere along the line it was given the name the "cram".

I'd give credit to Windreaper too.

[Mythrandir]

Originally posted by Eeks
I'd give credit to Windreaper too.

oh yeah, much credit to Windreaper (he made a strategy out of my over-aggressive terring-without-a-sense-of-strategy)

[Verthanthi]

Bit late now, but MoG why can you talk about roof javs not sucking without spastic getting on your back? They all yelled at me for saying it.

[Machine of God]

a roof jav is useless, i dont know who in spastic would agree or dissagree or why they would dissagree with you. If you are in a cram, a roof jav is just as good as a jav in base, the sharks can rep the bombs from a roof jav just as easily as a base jav

[Eeks]

Basejavs have reps?

[Pure_Luck]

Can we try and eliminate the cram like we are trying to eliminate LT's in pubs. Just make it so teams have to play one special ship like jav or wb. Thanks

[pv=nrt]

Originally posted by Eeks
Basejavs have reps?

Eeks, you ignorant slut!

[CrvenBan]

Give sharks a rocket $$

[Jeansi]

Originally posted by CrvenBan
Give sharks a rocket $$

nah, just remove it from the jav
Add a little lvl1 bullet to the shark or decrease the nrg needed for laying down a bomb would be great though. So that the shark would actually have a chance in a open-air duel.

[Zerzera]

I hate it how we get stuck into the ent because of the 'cramming'. There is no more moving out because of the people that are crazy about 'cramming'.
It's is just being stuck in a stage between defending flagroom and attacking lower. Where is the will to drive the opponent back into spawn? 'cramming' is more like camping.
So I don't think Myth made 'cramming' he just wisely drops his people right onto the action (just beside -or in the firelines), just pure agression.
You can't do that in base because people whine about dying (even if it's due the fact that they detach theirselves into enemy fire or bombs without watching).
It's either because they care about their rec to much or because it is not their style. Thats why people love cramming, it's the point where they don't dare to go further, so just sit there.

[ZeUs!!]

Originally posted by Machine of God
suck all my dicks assholes cause im right and you are all wrong, eat my shit za gophar, jason, and bram

my right testicle will be rewarded to Zeus for being a cunt

my left testicle(sweaty one) will be rewarded to everyone else

My god this guy's hilarious, someone give him a contract. No? OK then.

[ÆNIMA]

I think it's pretty obvious that cramming is implemented so that the team with the FR has the highest chance of winning. It's not intended to make the game any funner.

The fact that a cram can be really hard for a conventional team to break relates to the fact that all the settings in TW were designed to create an equilibrium using all of the 8 ships. With the banning of one of the ships in TWL, the equilibrium is broken, and the team with the laggiest sharks has the advantage.

A levi was not good against lines because the team in the FR was simply too spread out. One L4 bomb would knock out 3 people at the most, the same as a well-placed jav bomb. A levi was also something that was just too slow to get into tense battle against a winning opponent. It is also a major source of TKs.

Given the current circumstances of a cram, and if the FR-holding team has well-coordinated sharks, a jav is nearly useless in breaking a cram. It could be waiting up to 5 minutes for the right opportunity to place a bomb, a bomb that needs to be fired under the right circumstances. Clearly a jav is no good against a cram with well-coordinated sharks.

Working 5 spiders against a 5 spider cram seems to be the best option available to basers today, the truth is still, if the opposing team has well-coordinated sharks, the 5 attacking spiders basically have to rely on some kind of luck to enter the FR against a cram. Attacking sharks do play a certain role, but they can't be all that great in attacking against a cram.

What am I getting at you ask? What I'm saying is that, although a levi is a major disadvantage for a team (TKs, slow movement, greening time), the fact that it can deliver a massive blow close enough to the cram, without the bomb being repped, to knock out the majority of the team defending the entrance, might be the only chance that a certain team has to bust a cram.

I want you to keep an open mind to this, don't start levi bashing without some kind of logical argument. I honestly and truely believe (after thinking it through thoroughly) that a levi is the best method for breaking apart a cram. The team with a levi is left with a major disadvantage though, keep that in mind.

I believe that squads should be given the opportunity to explore a different method to destroying an enemy cram, a method that is almost sure to work, but a method that will still leave them vulnerable to attack. The levi should not be banned from TWD or TWL. It can work against the cram, but it might not necassarily work against 5 attacking spiders.

Before you reply to this idea, filter all of your hate, disgust, or dislike of the levi...and analyze the ship in relation to the cram in a logical manner, don't post your feelings, post your analytical thoughts on the matter.

Thanks.

[wadi]

Allright, I will say this once and only once:

Wake the hell up, ?go base has passed you by while you all had your hands in your pants.

PJ and crew know what I'm talking about.

You're all fucked.

[bloodzombie]

Aenima, I think your idea is a horrible one, but I see no reason you shouldn't be allowed to persue it. Why are levis banned anyway? are they too powerful? I don't think so. I would invite any squad to use a levi against us.



As for everyone crying about the cram.. if you don't like the way other people play.. come up with a new way to play that leaves cramming obsolete. Everyone wants to change the rules so that base matches run a certain way. Why don't you just change the way you play and force the game to evolve around you?


also.. FREE THE LEVI

[Eeks]

Letting the new lev in basing would be a good idea because now that it is stripped away from it's reps it can be killed from outside the base. Levi with reps would be a too powerful ship in defence but the repless levi could be more balanced.