why cramming rules...

[bloodzombie]

but doesn't the new levi have thrusters? I think I"d be more afraid of that.

[ÆNIMA]

I propose the idea with an emphasis on the fact that a team with a levi would be screwed in defense (tks, lack of a maneuverable jav, or spider power), and probably the initial ear warp.

And obviously, the enemy team could just spawnkill the levi, and not risk losing to the other team..in essence, a 7v7 base match.

The main idea is that the levi has its role, but it has its disadvantages...hell, the cloaker's still allowed isn't it?

wadi, what are you talking about?

[wadi]

Originally posted by ÆNIMA

wadi, what are you talking about?

Hands in your pants, hanndss in your pants.

[arrogance]

SPASTIC OWNS WHITERABBITS IN CRAMMING LINING AND ALL AROUND BASING YOU READ IT HERE FIRST!

[Cpt.Guano!]

whiterabbits own spastic in lting

[Eeks]

Levi with 4 reps is hard to kill from outside the base and with levi you can make an unfair entrance defence. The old levs were also able to get reps from greens picked by team mates.

[bloodzombie]

That would make for an interesting fr defense... almost like an extra shark that can't really move, but if you ignore him, he could blow up the other side of the fr.. of course.. half his bombs would probably be repped back at his team.


I don't see why it's not allowed... new or old, bring on the levi.

[Miku19]

Ok, this is what I did yesterday...

I decided to do a lineup that will put the enemy terr to a challenge: terr, 2 sharks, 2 spids, 2 wb, 1 lanc

vihta terr
Zyclon and TSM sharks
Nuudeli and Pjotter spidering
Angel and me were wb, predator_fnm lanc

That match ended up in a 100k win, Nuudeli and Pjotter with both 100+ kills

Later that day, I decided to try it again, now with one shark, to get 3 spids.

rr terr
Eggs r Evil shark (he wanted to soloshark)
Stalfos, glavitik and Nuudeli spids
Erathia and me wb, cundor lanc

now that match was a whole different story, most of the match went when glavitik whined about different flaws in the lineup (a shame he didn't whine when we had base for first 5 mins). GET US A SECOND SHARK! GET RID OF THE LANC YOU MORON! Ok, so phren will never get cap again when I'm in ?go base!

We lost that match with 30k

So, when you think about it, there are some guys that are totally against change, some are more open, I think our whole team had very fun the first match, but if there's one in the team who's against wicked lineups, the whole game kinda gets destroyed.

[Pearl Jam]

What? WARBIRDS?! THAT'S CRAZY!

[Dabram]

Originally posted by Miku19
Ok, this is what I did yesterday...

I decided to do a lineup that will put the enemy terr to a challenge: terr, 2 sharks, 2 spids, 2 wb, 1 lanc

vihta terr
Zyclon and TSM sharks
Nuudeli and Pjotter spidering
Angel and me were wb, predator_fnm lanc

That match ended up in a 100k win, Nuudeli and Pjotter with both 100+ kills

Later that day, I decided to try it again, now with one shark, to get 3 spids.

rr terr
Eggs r Evil shark (he wanted to soloshark)
Stalfos, glavitik and Nuudeli spids
Erathia and me wb, cundor lanc

now that match was a whole different story, most of the match went when glavitik whined about different flaws in the lineup (a shame he didn't whine when we had base for first 5 mins). GET US A SECOND SHARK! GET RID OF THE LANC YOU MORON! Ok, so phren will never get cap again when I'm in ?go base!

We lost that match with 30k

So, when you think about it, there are some guys that are totally against change, some are more open, I think our whole team had very fun the first match, but if there's one in the team who's against wicked lineups, the whole game kinda gets destroyed.

first give pallies crew (pearl jam) some credit for that first lineup, and for the actually idea of throwin in some completely different lineups.

anyway, i still don't believe in how more than 2wbs can do any good. if 2 wbs can't put enough pressure on 1 terr, you seriously need new wbs, 3 wbs won't kill the nme terr more than 2. 1 wb and 1 jav could work together pretty wel in fr-fights, and create chances for eachother on killing nme terr -> probably won't work in ?go base.
though i don't really care if these lineups are better than 5 spids or not, i just like the thought of actually playing different kind of matches in ?go base so it stays interesting.

[bloodzombie]

5 SPIDERS FOREVER!

[ÆNIMA]

How can you test a lineup in ?go base? The teams are just too inconsistent in skill, and coordination. Two squads should just try out different lineups in twbd to really get a good idea at what's suitable. The success of these different lineups depends a lot on the opposing team.

[Sufficient]

Bottom line is that TW's ships are not BALANCED enough in order fully utilize all ships. I agree that once everything settles out, certain ships will be used more often than others. But as for TWBL, basically NO ONE uses lancs or levs (for practical and legal reasons). It's up to the ops and higher ups to decide whether they want to change levs and lanc into ships that can compete with other ships (perhaps give them specific/new roles?). This would be a big step (a big step forard in my opinion) if they decided that yes, all the ships should be used in basing, and all should fill specific roles in a team. If not, than TW will be the same, never improving on itself and never getting better but staying at the same level of play it has been.

[Troll King]

Hmm... you might have to look at the other end of the spectrum too to find that balance. Instead of focusing only on how to change the levi, the lanc and the weasel, you might want to look at the spiders. Spiders play vital roles for teams, no matter what style they use. As a result, teams use a lot of them. Even if you tweak the levi, you'd have to make it useful enough to have a team want to supplant a spider. Now, I know you could replace a different ship, say wb or jav instead of the spider, but that would just create another imbalance. If spiders are the ships used the most, then they are part of the imbalance issue too.

The problem though is that squads would be very resistant to changes in that direction (and with reason). But don't forget: sharks and terrs have limits imposed on how many of them can be used on a team, because of how vital their roles are. Perhaps spiders have become so vital that they can be lumped in the same class.

[Miku19]

Don't anybody dare touch the spider!