Changes in Pub

[Shaz]

It would need to make sure the following criteria were followed: ****1**** The ability to cloak (but not necessarily stealth)...

Why is cloak a requirement?
It would be much easier to balance if you gave the weasel a completely different role (and it could potentially make it useful, as opposed to the griefing ship that it's almost always been).

[bandcampgirl]

Everyone just cloaking people in entrance now or hunting people that are. So much for more basing

[dofus]

That's why we need cloak to drain energy like the old small x (which also had radar)

[Rab]

yeah... cloak AND stealth doesn't do anything to improve basing

[Oranje]

If u not gna make it small; should allow cloak AND stealth

[sc00p]

Okay I'm gonna be completely honest here. The changes to lev seem okay for the most part - the increased manuverability offsets the lack of a portal, and reducing the power of the bomb is fine. However, the ability not to buy outside of safe is just dumb. And the increase in power of Weasel is WAY WAY too much. Making them big doesn't do ANYTHING to offset the fact that they are completely invisible to any ship without XRadar. If you thought Levs were ruining basing before and driving players away, then you should be just as concerned about completely invisible weasels ruining every corner of the arena.

[Vehicle]

People who are saying that the current weasel settings are overpowered have clearly not actually tried to play the ship in a base game. It's fucking useless. Please fix this already. I don't care if you take away stealth or make it drain energy or whatever the fuck you do but come on for God's sake you took a shitty ship and made it absolutely useless. Like 100 percent garbage.

FIX IT.

[Tone]

You accidentally set the price of a brick as 200, even though its the same as a rocket and repel which are 100 and is ultra-short lived. You got confused and were thinking of extreme games & other zones when setting the price.

[Bosshawk]

my understanding was that the brick was not going to be buyable.. it was supposed to be a one time shot per death...they might have changed that im not sure....

i think the weasel could have been better as it was before, just take away the rocket... or the rep.. maybe not both...leave it small maybe... as is.. completely cloaked it has just become a spawn hunter again

[Wazzaaa.nl]

All this cryn of weasel is useless, they got cloak + stealth bro how are they useless
All ships without xradar can't see them, how's this not an advantage for the weasel.. sigh
sure make them small again but don't give them cloak then
I think that's the most annoying part of weasels, have to watch radar for them
NOONE GOT TIME FOR THAT
do whatever u want with the weasels give them brick, repel, rocket, stealth and mini-size
just remove the cloak, this will solve all problems

[Ephemeral]

At the height of TW’s popularity what were the ship settings for Pub 0? Would not the best thing to do is go back to those, whatever the short-comings might be, and try them for a while? If those changes to Pub 0 were indeed successful in establishing a baseline where at least some new players are being retained, then (and only then) perhaps minor tweaks could be made for improved play.

But I would question forming opinions on the success/failure of the current settings since they are occurring in the middle of other substantial changes. I would also be hesitant to use the opinions in this forum to form any casual observation about the success of the changes.

Have Pub 0 base games been lasting longer or been more competitive? Have we evidence from polling players (especially new players) how they feel about Pub 0 now? Are there any other quantifiable ways in place to determine success?

Hopefully this is not going to be just another in the long line of multiple, contemporaneous changes with no hope of ever being able to really understand their impact.
eph

[Pressure Drop]

At the height of TW’s popularity what were the ship settings for Pub 0? Would not the best thing to do is go back to those, whatever the short-comings might be, and try them for a while? If those changes to Pub 0 were indeed successful in establishing a baseline where at least some new players are being retained, then (and only then) perhaps minor tweaks could be made for improved play.

But I would question forming opinions on the success/failure of the current settings since they are occurring in the middle of other substantial changes. I would also be hesitant to use the opinions in this forum to form any casual observation about the success of the changes.

Have Pub 0 base games been lasting longer or been more competitive? Have we evidence from polling players (especially new players) how they feel about Pub 0 now? Are there any other quantifiable ways in place to determine success?

Hopefully this is not going to be just another in the long line of multiple, contemporaneous changes with no hope of ever being able to really understand their impact.
eph

not remember the lanc had 1 shot kill bullets ? never heard much compalints making it have proper lv2 bullets and personaly i thought that was a great change

no idea what they have done with the x but it by it's very nature is an imbalanced ship and thats why its persistantly tinkered with - i always thought maybe try lessening the xradar drain and make it buyable on more ships as an option. Maybe even making the ships that cant currently get it have the full drain and decrease the other ships drain rate by half etc...

lev was over powered and the major problem that bugged me

[Spock!]

Right now the Weasel sucks for both the pilot and other players.

It is ez to kill anything without x-radar, but anything with x radar makes you easy prey. Overall its a pretty annoying and sucky situation....


So, as I said before, take away stealth but make it faster with more maneuverability. That way it will be easier to hit when shooting by radar, but not a complete sitting duck for those hunting it.

Also, keeping it big will not allow it to kill basing and shit like that.....

Amen.

[kthx]

I completely ignore anything the guy above me says because of his text color. It probably was a bad idea anyways.

[Oranje]

I completely ignore anything the guy above me says because of his text color. It probably was a bad idea anyways.

Which guy?