Questions

[Dameon Angell]

lets see.....


1. Lunar's awesome, I've been trying to teach her some things, so I really wouldn't worry that much about her.

2. I don't remember who's idea it was, but I think the staff progression shouldn't be ZH -> ER -> Mod, but more ZH or ER -> Mod. Because some people aren't good hosters (*cough* stupid archangell *cough*) But yeah, I thought that sounded like a cool idea.

[sexy wooden spoon]

To be fair, lunar helped me 2 play this game when i 1st started.Therefore i think she "should" have the knoweldge to be a <zh>.All i can do is go by experience and say she helped me, and i dont think there is any reason why cant she help others.

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[Lea]

Arch, nah... can't see ZHs or ERs becoming Mods. Their would be one of the two categories that would have to go afterwards. I was modding for 17th parallel for about a year and left due to the massive amount of unprofesionnalism in the staff. I was in charge of staff training at the time and let me tell you that you just can't take away the chain of commands in a thing like that.

[Dim]

Here are my views on things;

If you've been playing 4 months, you've got the knowledge and understanding to be a <ZH>, I think it is one of the easiest things to do, and the great things with it assuming you know most things about the game you are forever learning while on staff and after about 2 weeks you are as knowledgable as the next guy. I have no problem with being answered by people who have been playing less than me and others as long as they give me the right answers and in all my experience, they have also I tend to see that they are even more helpful and enthusiastic, whether that is to jump to <ER> or because they are genuinely nice people.

Event Referees, this I have a slight problem with. Far too many <ER>'s with the exception of Predator <ER>, Yojo <ER>, Nockm <ER> (who have been on staff for a long time in consession or previously before rehired, eg [nockm]) are hosting far too many automated events or either 1 event like javs, (parasect). ?go fallout is a favourite, ?go prodem when I was on staff. Maybe a lot of people like playing prodem and fallout, but myself I find it really boring and unadventerous and it takes no effort at all. It also occurs to me that the newer <ER>'s hardly ever host, whether that's me (I haven't been very active lately) or they just don't host. But it tends to be the more experienced guys (eg: people that have been playing a lot before they got staff and have been on staff a long time)

Mods, for instance are in my opinion (while on staff) the laziest things alive, while on staff me, awesome, f22 raptor had to answer nearly all the calls, the only mod I can truly praise is Da Farmer! As an example, I might also be wrong F22 Raptor probably took more cheaters while <ER> than he does when he is a Mod. (I'm not sure he's still a mod) Although I have to give big ups to the deans, as staff is getting much better since I started playing.

My arguement is that the newer <ER>'s and <ZH>'s don't have time to learn their 'profession' 2 months of helping, and you're promoted (or it was like that when I was staff). I am nearly tempted to praise leaf, he is an active hoster, but he hosts a bit too much of the same events (maybe I'm wrong if so apologies) and he spawnkilled me 4 times in baseelim, <3 leaf.

[Cig Smoke]

Lea, just bc u can go <ZH> OR <ER> ---> mod,dont mean u wont have to wait the same amount of time. What i was trying to imply was instead of having the "ladder" affect that we now have where the quickest way to get mod is to go <ZH>--<ER>--mod. There is the option of sitting @ <ZH> till u get mod, but it takes 2 tiems as long as goin to <ER> then mod. I think that the deans are smart enuff to see who is andisnt good at hosting and who is and isnt good at taking help calls. Start someone off @ <ER> limit there arena power, just like u do with the <ZH>'s. Let them get use to the commands just like we do w/ the <ZH>'s. But once they learn them, then they'll be full time <ER>, instead of gion through the <ZH> step, which is wasting there best talent. Also same goes for ppl with <ZH>. U can tell who is a better <ZH> then <ER>. Archey even admitted he is. Keep them @ <ZH> and give them the power to host in there arenas like u do now, but DONT make it take 2 tiems as long to get mod. Make it so <ER>/<ZH> are the same starting point, but 1 is for hosting and 1 is for other things. It will make it much more efficiant to have ppl on staff doin what they enjoy most and doin what they do best.

As for lunar, i aint gonna post anymore bad about her i'll jsut explain again what i was implying by using her for my example. I was wondering why she was hired for staff when she was. Now she mite have more of a general knowledge of hte game bc she been staff quite awhile, but im sure she asks still for alot of help. But when she was hired she had to have not much knowledge at all, and i was just wondering why they'dh ire someone like that thats all. I by no means meant for her stats and all thiz to come out on her, i just wanted to bring up a valid point, and it could of been other ppl to, but she wsa the best example. I also think that when someone is hired they should know atleast all the F1 (help) things off hand w/o looking. Or atleast most of them, and have a general knowing of how things work. I wouldnt expect her or neone else to know everything, even when i wnas <ZH> i asked for help on a few things here and there.

I also agree w/ dimboy. There is only a real handful of guys (<ER>'s) who host different variation of events. Like pred he hosts alot of different shiz. I am not sure of the list of all <ER>'s but i know when im online who i see hosting and what they are hosting. Alot of <ER> are using like dimboy said "fallout" and hosting it and adv for it 3-4 times in 10 minutes it seems. Looks like a thing which they are doin to get therestats up to me. ALthough a few like Bam/arch host a javtourny/tourny every nite which is nice. But Pred is holding up the euro side by himself.

[Leaf]

Meh liar. I host on the Euro side, and Para host. We hosted more than him too you don't know what you're talking 'bout

[Cig Smoke]

As i said, i didnt have the whole list of <ER>'s but ur rite u/para do host alot to

[Dim]

Cig Smoke 4 Rehirezation

[SnallTrippin]

I remember Crim back a few years anyway...meh.

[Adeon]

Just to throw out an idea on the whole staff progression thing; perhaps another, lower level of staff should be added (below ZH and ER). <SN> Staff Noob or something. This would be the learning / trial level for new staff members in their first couple weeks - month of staffing.

I'm not really sure how this position would be worked, exactly. Maybe as a ZH + ER hybrid, but an extremely light version of both. For example, with the hosting powers of what a ZH currently has (which is very limited), and maybe a little less of a help call requirement than current ZH's. After their trial period is over and they are seen as deserving of promotion, they could be promoted to either ZH or ER, depending on which they would prefer / have shown to be better at.

This would allow ZH's and ER's to essentially be on the same "level", on their way to being mod, if deserving. Also effectively eliminating the current problem that staffers can't really go from ZH to mod, without first being an ER (even though they may not be good at / enjoy being an ER).

[Arc]

Originally posted by Adeon
Just to throw out an idea on the whole staff progression thing; perhaps another, lower level of staff should be added (below ZH and ER). <SN> Staff Noob or something. This would be the learning / trial level for new staff members in their first couple weeks - month of staffing.

I'm not really sure how this position would be worked, exactly. Maybe as a ZH + ER hybrid, but an extremely light version of both. For example, with the hosting powers of what a ZH currently has (which is very limited), and maybe a little less of a help call requirement than current ZH's. After their trial period is over and they are seen as deserving of promotion, they could be promoted to either ZH or ER, depending on which they would prefer / have shown to be better at.

This would allow ZH's and ER's to essentially be on the same "level", on their way to being mod, if deserving. Also effectively eliminating the current problem that staffers can't really go from ZH to mod, without first being an ER (even though they may not be good at / enjoy being an ER).

I second that.

[Dim]

Originally posted by Adeon
Just to throw out an idea on the whole staff progression thing; perhaps another, lower level of staff should be added (below ZH and ER). <SN> Staff Noob or something. This would be the learning / trial level for new staff members in their first couple weeks - month of staffing.

I'm not really sure how this position would be worked, exactly. Maybe as a ZH + ER hybrid, but an extremely light version of both. For example, with the hosting powers of what a ZH currently has (which is very limited), and maybe a little less of a help call requirement than current ZH's. After their trial period is over and they are seen as deserving of promotion, they could be promoted to either ZH or ER, depending on which they would prefer / have shown to be better at.

This would allow ZH's and ER's to essentially be on the same "level", on their way to being mod, if deserving. Also effectively eliminating the current problem that staffers can't really go from ZH to mod, without first being an ER (even though they may not be good at / enjoy being an ER).

Theres not really any need for that, it takes the max of a week to learn the ropes of being a ZH.

[Cig Smoke]

Thats a very good idea dimboy u nutsack!

This would give the deans an opertunity to see if the person is more interested in hosting or more interested in taking help calls. They can use it as an evaluation. And of course they can ask the person and see if the 2 match up. That way like he said <ZH>/<ER> would be same level just different ppl. It would also be ezier to fire staffers if they desrve it and such. Its a trial period, they can be fired @ any time.

[Dameon Angell]

I think it was Adeon who wrote that

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[Dim]

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