Basing should be more popular

[Kim]

Don't even comment then when u have no experience whatsoever w/basing. I consider it ego-trippin when u make suggestions for something u don't have very little, if ANY, knowledge of. At least I take the time to play jav and wb (voluntarily) before I make comments on twdd and twjd and any related dueler topic.

Just because I'm not in a basing squad, you assume I know nothing of what goes on in there? As if there was some imaginary wall thats keeping me from going into the arena every once in a while, sampling some of the latest people's actions in that arena. Sorry, but if 4 out of 5 times I go into the arena and I see, 1) players being subbed out by the basing captain to replace a friend, 2) replacing a player who disagrees with the basing captain and his/her decisions during the game, and 3) low interchangeability of players used in a base game, resulting in numerous fights between players, which usually ends along the lines of some basing "regular" assuming their superiority over others.....I am going to label basing as having a better attitude than baseelim/elim. At least in baseelim/elim, anyone can play.

[lunch3]

Hmmmm....a pub that introduces people to basing.

If you wanna do that without a bot, either 1) don't allow people to shark, lev, or jav in said arena (so no tks) or 2) dont allow lev and jav but leave shark without the ability to bomb/mine. Heh u can't have it perfect, but since u wanna introduce newbs to this, at least u get rid of the tkers.

Also, the only 2 ships u really need in said pub (in order to introduce newbies to basing) is spider and terr. Without sharks or javs or levs, spiders will just naturally line or cram or come out of fr to fight in mid and tunnel. Wbs are probably a good idea to eliminate in this said pub because if left in there all newbs like to play that ship and spawn and stay in spawn area. But maybe keep lanc.

experienced players would enjoy playing in this type of pub too....im sure many of us are sick of tkers, plus many of us basers like spiders....so we would feel at home in such a pub. good idea, no?...yes?

[Due]

TSM is good, he has based eough to know who can handle cap and who not. Another thing is how often he has the energy to cap someone good instead of just taking the two first to spam //CAP!

lol like tsm knows everyone in TW. he caps only his friends and he caps always the same ppl & thoes ppl always pick the same ppl etc etc. <--- it is getting old i hope u will get it NOW.

if u want more ppl to base LET OTHER ppl cap to.

[Cig Smoke]

Hmmmm....a pub that introduces people to basing.

If you wanna do that without a bot, either 1) don't allow people to shark, lev, or jav in said arena (so no tks) or 2) dont allow lev and jav but leave shark without the ability to bomb/mine. Heh u can't have it perfect, but since u wanna introduce newbs to this, at least u get rid of the tkers.

Also, the only 2 ships u really need in said pub (in order to introduce newbies to basing) is spider and terr. Without sharks or javs or levs, spiders will just naturally line or cram or come out of fr to fight in mid and tunnel. Wbs are probably a good idea to eliminate in this said pub because if left in there all newbs like to play that ship and spawn and stay in spawn area. But maybe keep lanc.

experienced players would enjoy playing in this type of pub too....im sure many of us are sick of tkers, plus many of us basers like spiders....so we would feel at home in such a pub. good idea, no?...yes?

All these pub ideas are good but i dont think they'll ever work. You have to remember this is pub we are talkinga bout. If u make it 17v17 or whatever amount is in arena then you'll have to deal with lag, if u make it restricted 8v8 then you'll have to have 3000 pubs. Then you'll have to weave through the ships and decide which ones u can have and how to limit them. Are u gonna limit them to 1 terr 2 sharks per team? Are u gonna let the wb be there? Are u gonna let it be unlimited javs? You know everyone always wants to be jav. There are alot of things that are too hard to change to make it in pub. I personaly think if we change pubs around it'll chase the newbies away from TW all together.

Maybe we could try it out on a weekend in like 1-2 pubs like we did w/ pure basing. See if its used or if ppl dislike it. Again it'll have to be thought out by a smarter man then myself bc there are alot of things you have to rearange.

[Condit]

To kim : baselim/elim doesnt require teamwork, in base you do, so the caps are justified in taking out ppl, adding friends to ensure the team works better.
Baseelim/elim has the most people assuming their better than anyone else, since theres only only 2 ships, jav and wb,to excel at. Hell, you hear the word newb, luck, omg, with every death that happens; just because you've been desensitized to it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. There is less assuming im better than you in base, since there are 5 ships everyone can try their hand at and we know not everyone is good at each single ship.

Base still has the nicest individuals with the least egos .

[Kim]

Sure, you're assuming that the captains are picking out of the betterment for their team. Many captains don't do this, and let their preferences and biases get the better of them. Also you have to note, most of the cursing occurs WITHIN the frequency, not between freqs.

[Miku19]

I have to agree with Kim here, it really pisses me off to get subbed by a jackass 5 secs into the game "Because I like him more than you".

[Zerzera]

Fuck you Cig Smoke, just because we suck so much at javving and dueling doesn't meant we aren't a 3-league squad!

[Cig Smoke]

I didnt mean it that way What i meant is u guys recruit basers, they mite learn jav and do decent in jav or u guys mite try to play javs but u dont go out and recruit guys just to jav. Where a squad like pallies have wbs, javs and basers. They recruit for each different league. Not just 30 basers who are trying to jav/wb.


Kim: i agree, basing use to be the nice arena where ppl were nice but there ego's are just as big as elim/baseelim now. Its just as competative if not more competative. The fact that its a team game makes it even worst. The guys get mad at each other and argue all game long. They worry bout someone else instead of worrying about themselves. Plus in my opinion losing a basing game is like 300 times more frustrating then losing in javs or wbs, bc they only go to 10 deaths. I dont know if they are worst, but i certainly think their ego's are close to the same as elim/baseelims.

Condit: about being able to learn 5 diff ships. Thats BS! There are very few ppl who can fly more then 2 basing ships with skill and that includes spider which is clearly one of the eziest ships to master. Sure anyone can ramble how they can play a ship, but are they actualy good in it? And most ppl are in spider, not the other ships. Most captains dont jav/wb someone unless they know how to jav (or they jav themselves) same goes for terr. The sharks/spiders are the only real things that change every game.

[Zerzera]

Well it's kind of hard to recruit javs/basers into a basingsquad, especially if Dice browses trough our roster and try to recruit anyone that is on it :P

[Condit]

Read what i wrote, I didnt say everyone can learn 5 ships, i said theres more variance for people to try their hand at, so theres little basis to assume im better than you. Person A maybe a better terr, shark, and Person B is better than A at jav and spider. How is Person A going to say im overall better than you. Theres no basis for judgement. While baseelim/elim, theres just one ship to master in each respective arena, and therefore more egos thinking they hot shit. The problem with being subbed early, is because there are all these new players, new caps, they dont know who is good at what, so if they get a chance theyll sub some guy they dont know.

[schope]

this topic is so bullshit, once i was capped on go base with 40 ppl and almost no1 with !np.

I picked ppl like extreme fatness and non phixion to spid in place of bram and disqualifier (detail, i didnt pick myself) and they whined so hardcore from spec.

So, you want make go base more popular ? Give ppl a chance, im not telling you to shark or terr or even pick pubbers. But give ppl that is basing recently a chance.

Once i told a cap that didnt pick himself that i would sit for him cause i had played 5 games in sequence on that peek time, and someone said "bah this is nothing i play 18 games in sequence". Why those ppl like bram cant sit once for 20 mins and give others a chance to play ?

If you want to make basing more popular, i dont think this complex idea about an arena would work, just put ?go base advertise on whole zone as you do to elims arenas, so newbies will come more often, watch a game or two, and when base is dying this will attract ppl and go base wont prolly die at nights.

This would make ppl base more.

The alert chat bot stuff is bullshit

[Cig Smoke]

Make it so that there is .?go base and .?go base2 always running when enough ppl. Its rare that u get anyone trying to start .?go base2.

Zerz: I know its hard once ur labled as a "basing" or "jav" squad to recruit ppl from other leagues, but it is duable. Dice has a few pure basers mixed with javs who can base very well too. Spastic has a few guys who can jav well like anon who can also base well. Anon isnt a pure basers, where as most of incuria is basicaly pure basers trying to jav or wb

[Kings]

1) To sumpson, stfu with your fucking Quirion squad, no newbs wanna join it cause it isnt winning anything, no one wanna join a squad that wins nothing, even newbs. You always try to get in the best squad you can. If i was to get paid like in any sports, oh ok i would go, but i wouldnt go ridiculize myself non-paid where everyone is a newbie and where i can't learn anything from anyone better than me because there are none. (thats an exemple)
That is why old basers needs to spread out from good squads,yes, i would even say including us, RB

2)Stabwound, you want more twbd games? Kill Base completly. If people want to base at all, they'll have to get in a squad or create a squad. Since base won't work at all, some people will get bored in their own squad since they are not active or w/e and create their own squad with some ppl and there'll be more bds ( not sure about this but im just giving away ideas and hoping). Captains will start going to pubs and recruiting pubbers to have more members in their squad since twbd is the only place where you can have some decent basing. In the past 3 weeks, i have gone to base like twice because i only play in twbd. Yes, i know that would favorise squad hoping a lot more but it was way more interesting because it gave us something to whine about on these forums. We don't see any more of those Jard's hate threads

3)Boss, stfu about Sage hiding from you and everyone else. They are europeans, they can't bd you becasue you always come play at late eastern time or eastern dinner time. They go to bed at 10-11 pm too. If you want to see them, come online saturdays and sundays and they'll be playing squads like RB, Disoblige and anti-scrub.

4) I don't really remember who said that but Grapevine doesn't bd anymore at all since thye lost the 3 core basing people (Ajax, pan n paul). They got somewhat really inactive and i guess they'll have to recruit again if they want to base more or they'll just get bored of losing to good basing squads.

twdd have elim, twjd have baseelim, twbd should have pub, where everyone can play. We shouldn't even need ?go base .
In elim, there is a lot of new people always coming in but you don't really remark they suck because you never get to lose because one of them! and if you do, then it's because they are good (or lucky, w/e).

[Sumpson]

1) To sumpson, stfu with your fucking Quirion squad, no newbs wanna join it cause it isnt winning anything, no one wanna join a squad that wins nothing, even newbs. You always try to get in the best squad you can. If i was to get paid like in any sports, oh ok i would go, but i wouldnt go ridiculize myself non-paid where everyone is a newbie and where i can't learn anything from anyone better than me because there are none. (thats an exemple)
That is why old basers needs to spread out from good squads,yes, i would even say including us, RB

Quirion is made for Pub players who are interested in Basing and never done it before, its like an introduction squad to the basing scene. There are decent newbies around wich like to learn instead of hop from crap squad to decent and try to get the best they can then move to the best squad they can get and stick with it. You are not a loyal player, I guess that's why you had a comment like this.