Ice

[PjOtTeR]

Please,can someone tell me how dice cheated to win TWL???
sharks 8 repels???
plz tell how dice cheat
i watched the games and didnt see anything wrong....

That is exactly what is the problem.

Because it is hard too notice the cheat if you do it correctly. What if you could like just regenerate a lil bit, like if you are down to 0 nrg and someone else is to 0 nrg, if you both emped at same time and stop being emped at the same time, you are at 1500 while the other is still at 1450.... it makes a big difference. Or what if you can stop your emp... then you can just like un-emp yourself whenever you want... sure people do not notice this and this cannot be detected, but it could have a big impact on a game... or what about giving yourselfs burst, portal or repel in a game... they cannot be checked cause you can just say you got that of a green.... and they "seem" alright... but is this really how you want to win?
If so, then so be it... and go realise what kind of players you are instead and who are the sad persons here...
We all know you cheat, you yourselfes know you cheat, but you also know that if you use your cheat correctly the chance of getting caught is way to small to be a threat for you ( getting bannedwise). Thus you can always say you've never cheated because you were never caught, and we just have to "believe" you because you have the fact that you were never caught on your side and why the heck would you throw away your "hard fought titles" and your extremely high chance to win an other "hard fought title" if you know staff cannot detect your cheat. This all has a reason.... You want to win by all cost, and since you "cannot" (I am sure you can, but you so desire this title that you want to be sure to win it and thus cheat to be 100% sure to get it) do it the fair way you cheat. and you cheat cause you desire to win so badly that YOUR GOAL gets more important then the atributes/skill used.
It's like using dope in sports... you win cause you use this stuff, you are generally looked at as good... but what if you get caught using it all your great accomplishments will always be in the shadow of the fact that you "cheated". think about it... what if staff finds a way to detect your cheat, are you all just gonna stop using it and people see how you got bad "just out of the sudden" or do you go on with it and get caught and have people saying they always knew it... That and stop cheating are your options.
Cause lets be honest, there will be a day staff will find a way to detect CE.
I sure as hell know i cannot stop you, not sure if staff is able to do this, but consider doing the good thing once and play fair like everyone else. Don't even know why i say this cause it's useless, but was worth a shot.
Don't come here saying you don't cheat, i'm sure you will, people will not believe you, i sure as hell won't... and you won't admit you cheat cause staff cannot detect your cheats ATM, but the day they are able to, i will laugh in your face.
On an other note, i don't really care you cheat because it makes it hard whenever i play you, and since there isn't a non-cheatin tw-player out there that's better than me in javelin(both lj and lb), i like to play you guys cause it's good competition even though i hardly ever lose against any of you guys 1 on 1.
That are just my onethousendthreehundredthirtyseven cents, the heck with it, cheat some more own some more and brag about your titles some more i could care less cause i know how you "earned" them

And i can brag about a title i have cause i earned it all by myself and there isn't a possible way i could have cheated myself to the top 1 place, look at my signature and friggin stfu
Dank u.

[3d.]

^^ Who Read all that? Who has the time to write all that about Spikey and dicE. at the end of the day: Its only a Crappy 2d Space Game!.. :fear:

[Da1andonly]

Are you saying that everyone should simply roll over and not care that cheating is going on? if I understand you correctly and if that attitude is endemic to the rest of the staff, then no wonder things in TW are what they are.

Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.

Eh, you misunderstood me as usual. You take this way too seriously you know. I was merely explaining to whoever it was that asked if Cape has cheated earlier on or not.

Then I just asked how you people can go on with the constant whining (I didn't have the cheating part in my mind, just...everything)

[End]

Lemar, who cares what quotes u have LOL BIG DEAL, i think we get the point that we arent liked by many ppl, we dont need u coming here posting stupid quotes. And who cares if ur squad wont ever dissolve, fuk the point of playing a game is to beat it (usualy) and u wont ever do that where ur at. Plus look at paladen, they were once good and now look at them, they arent even respected by many ppl. I give them props for stayin alive so long, bc it is hard to do that, but still look how there skill went downhill so far.

Lemar, i own u in terr, shark, wb, jav, cloaker, lancaster, levi. The only ship u can do better then me in is spider, and that is bc thats ur best ship and i play that ship once every 2 months. Plus its really useless for a newbie like u to be saying ppl like kaw and spikey dont have skill. I mean if it was someone good saying that then fine, but u? Plz Spikey is 2 times the player then you'll ever be, in any ship, and they dont got any squads? Obviously they are on a squad arent they? Plus as much as it seems no squads would take them, i guarentee u if they left Dice today they would be invited to about 5-10 squads by the next day.

Ok ok i think i got what you said cig choke. thinking about you i remember when we were true friends in sk8 with spikey and we played a twl together it was both my first and spikeys first. We were good names and you even gave me a name, ciggy. Now look at you your some washed up fagit who ahngs around with the wrong people and dragged jrahen in to. i posted those but i had a pick out of hundreds people dont hate you, the whole fucking zone hates you.

Your right BC wont dissolve cause it has good strong leaders with a core of players who dont cheat. Your squad on the other hand is like a wormhole of corruption attracting every cheating player to one squad, eventually imploding in the arrogance and ego that is dice only to reform under someother "cool" name that you have horded away and kept another person from using. BC wont ever beat it, correct me if im wrong cause i dont care to brag but last sason didnt we go 10-0 in the first stage? ok we lost to -f- but at least it was a good game. BCs skill hasnt gone downhill we still have a core and we still have the newer players who will train up. Every new player i see i show them what true fagits you are so eventually there will be a whole new generation of players who hate you.

Who can you say stuff about paladen when it was your own squad clearly you dont have any honour or loyalty. And btw you dont own me in terr the only ship you can match me in is shark cause you get some realistic practice real life with it. O.O fatty.

Spikey has some skill ill say that but he has a bad personality kaw on the other hand is a leach and has no skill but can hide behind others and look good in their shadow. The whole of dice doesnt do anything original or take any risks you base to a formula one of your nerds made get some real skill and start playing the game how it is ment to be played and have some fun with it.

Yes spikey and kaw would get invited somewhere else, not to a main stream squad though cause they all hate them. Id like to see you name 3 squad who will play twlb that would take spikey or kaw.

[Ephemeral]

Eh, you misunderstood me as usual. You take this way too seriously you know. I was merely explaining to whoever it was that asked if Cape has cheated earlier on or not.
Then I just asked how you people can go on with the constant whining (I didn't have the cheating part in my mind, just...everything)

Ok, sorry I must have mis-understood your original post. But that was why I phased it as 'if I understand you correctly '.
'Whining' is a loaded word. It clearly implies that a person is being childish and promoting an unnecessary opinion. I don't think that people discussing or showing frustration about the degree of cheating going on today is whining. Bottom line is that we all care, no matter how much some of us stomp our feet and say that we don't give a shit.

Does anyone really believe a person who has over 1000-2000 hours of ?usage when they say things like they 'don't give a shit' or that 'it is just a game'? How fucking stupid can a person be to think that any of us believes them when they say stupid shit like that. Imagine spending 2000 hours do anything, restoring a car, working on a painting, playing an instrument, throwing a ball through a hoop, and then announcing that you don't really care about it, 'it's just a game'. The only people I have EVER believed that said that are the ones who walked away and haven't come back. How can anyone be so moronic as say 'I don't really care about this game' when they:
- have huge ?usage
- play 5 times a week or more
- play in every league season
- bother to come into these forums and spend more time posting offering opinions on league issues, TW issues
- care enough to announce just how much they, or their sqaudies, own us all

So from this point on, lets all simply agree that we all DO care or we wouldn't be making posts about it. And when people care about something, expect that people will get frustrated about ruining what we care about.
Given that we all do really care about this stupid game and community (whether or not a person is mature enough to admit that), then who WOULDN'T want the cheating to be brought under control? Simple answer, the only people who would NOT want the cheating to stop are those people who are cheating.
Where are the posts from the people who have been previously been banned for cheating saying that cheating is wrong and that we should get cheating out of this game?

So Da1, when a staffer chooses to use the word 'whining' in a thread mostly about things that are ruining what we care about, it is meaningful.

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[angel^fire]

Now look at you your some washed up fagit who ahngs around with the wrong people and dragged jrahen in to.

uh oh, watch out guys.. "ahnging" out with the wrong people in a 2d spaceship game will get you no where!

[Adman]

Dear Ephemeral,

If you conducted yourself the same way in life that you do in these forums, i'd probably call you an arrogant ass and be done with you. You're demeaning in a way that you don't think you're demeaning. Saying that you have more life experience than the rest of us, and saying stuff "oh my business would never do anything like that" makes you seem extremely pompous to me. Oh wait it's just my opinion so it makes it all better right?

Your truly
Adman

Edited for harshness.....

i'd like to say something here to everyone invovled. We all know Cape/Dice likes to stir the shit. Who doesn't? But if you don't give them a receptacle to do it in, they have no way to keep it up. It's people that keep giving them fuel to do it that makes them continue.

Come to the forums for the first time in a week and it is frustrating to read.

[Pressure]

Funny how you people care. I've always been loyal to dice and IF the roster BC has would still contain Cig smoke, Jrahen and M_M God (who also hopped) BC would be going for TWLJ which is the most important reason I picked BC. Call me a hopper I don't care about any other people's opinions than my friends'. Anyways, keep the bashing coming I'm expecting too see more flaming than last season. I've hopped alot yes but how does that make me a bad person/player? I've been loyal to dice all along. Why don't you go look at someone elses past squads (see frozen throne) and flame them. Frozen throne here has been in twice as many squads as I have, Why do you make my hopping such a big deal? Geez

Edit: I understand how the caps of the squads I've been on react when they're losing one of their players, but what the fuck are people - who's squads I haven't been on - flaming me for? I haven't done anything to insult you.

One more edit: NL>TERMINATOR left for the same reason as me, Why wont you flame him basingcrew?

NOTE: The crappy squads (yah say Hillpeace if you want, i don't care) that are on Frozen Throne's squadlist, those were the REAL Frozen Throne getting into squads. The Frozen Throne that got into Mambo, Disoblige, owned for Hillpeace, etc. that was all his older brother; Jard.

Talk

[Pressure]

Shut up.

Spikey wrote:
19. Spikey - That's me. Most of you guys probably think of me as a
squadhopper. Well I'm here to prove you wrong :]


You have been taken into BasingCrew only because you promised you would stay, how does this make you a bad person? well it seems you have a weak personality and don't stand behind the decissions you make.

Really man, stop whining about ONE member leaving your squad. Plenty of captains have had this done to them, and you STOLE one of the ones that did it to me, Dutch Baser. He promised to stay to TWL and he left to you, a squad that keeps degrading with every bad decision you make. I know plenty of squads that had to deal with people leaving for other squads even though they were relied on so stop acting like it ONLY happened to you. When my 11 core players left Hillpeace, i asked around other captains like Da1andonly, and Rough, and a BUNCH of other people and they all said the same thing, "yeah that happened to Diso before, Sk8, etc. etc. etc." just stick with it Sumpson, stop relying on other people.. You have a great core over in BC, and as long as thats there you should be fine..?

It was your choice to captain a squad where ONLY 20 hardcore elite players are eligible to play for TWL, and if they aren't good enough they're gone. You decided on this, and if spikey didn't like what he expected when he first joined, sure why the hell can't he leave. It's like this, Cig Smoke goes to the donut shop, Dunk'n Donuts preferably. He decides on a box of pink doughnuts. You now, the sprinkled ones. He ordered it over the telephone, so he goes to pick them up, and everything's going excellent! Traffic lights are turning quickly, streets nearly empty (2:00am), but suddenly a moving old person walker smashes into his car, flips the car incidently, and he breaks his neck! The next day, an Indian comes to the hospital, says "Here are your doughnuts!" but with some wierd characteristics inbetween letters, and Cig Smoke sees that they're chocolate, NOT WHAT HE WANTED. He goes to strangle the 5'3" indian but before it could be done, he faints, passes out, and dies of cardiac arrest...

...he dies because of lack of, yes, donuts.

[Kings]

hahahahah, what the fuck had that story to do with all of this post?
cig is afghan + indy

[Pressure]

spikey wanted sprinkled pink donutes
he got in an accident(squad started to hurt, inactive, people he wanted there left)
brown donuts came instead, so he left

[EnFlAmE]

spikey wanted sprinkled pink donutes
he got in an accident(squad started to hurt, inactive, people he wanted there left)
brown donuts came instead, so he left

you finnaly drank a beer or what or did you just realy loose all sence of reality

[Spikester]

Yes spikey and kaw would get invited somewhere else, not to a main stream squad though cause they all hate them. Id like to see you name 3 squad who will play twlb that would take spikey or kaw.

I only need one squad.

[Ephemeral]

Dear Ephemeral,

If you conducted yourself the same way in life that you do in these forums, i'd probably call you an arrogant ass and be done with you. You're demeaning in a way that you don't think you're demeaning. Saying that you have more life experience than the rest of us, and saying stuff "oh my business would never do anything like that" makes you seem extremely pompous to me. Oh wait it's just my opinion so it makes it all better right?

Your truly
Adman

Edited for harshness.....

i'd like to say something here to everyone invovled. We all know Cape/Dice likes to stir the shit. Who doesn't? But if you don't give them a receptacle to do it in, they have no way to keep it up. It's people that keep giving them fuel to do it that makes them continue.

Come to the forums for the first time in a week and it is frustrating to read.

Dear Adman,
Have you ever been on a squad with me? No. Do you even know me? No. Have you bother to ask anyone who really knows me what kind of person I am? No. Do I judge people and pass comments on people I don't know? No.

And yet you call me arrogant and pompous?
Eph

[Troll King]

You're mature enough, and have been around long enough, to know that how you present yourself on these forums may well be enough for people to get an idea of who you are and what you are like. If you think his assessment of you isn't what you're really like, then maybe you should look at how you present yourself. If you look over what he said, he makes it clear that he is commenting on your attitude on these forums based on your postings here. As he's keeping it in that context then that may very well be a fair assessment.