TWL! Important Poll #2

[Awesome]

i agree, although i'm not a baser, i've always thought it would be better to see who can capture the flag and hold it for the longest amount of time. as soon as a team accumulates 15 minutes total flag-holding time, they win.

i wanna change my vote from points race to time race

[bloodzombie]

This is insanity, you people are nuts. have any of you been playing in ?go base? when it's point race, games are more exciting and more fun and if the game sucks, it's over faster so that we get on to the next one. the 30 minute timer is stupid. New squads will not lose interest if they only get to play for 15 minutes, if anything, they'll lose interest if they have to stay for a full 30 when they're not having fun anymore.

[Stabwound]

About a Time race; it sounds good at first, but then think about how it would make records/kills/points all meaningless. Part of the reason people don't like point race is because it's hard to compare records, etc. With a time race game, records wouldn't matter at all.

[Awesome]

yeah but its basing... =/

your not going for records, you're going for control of the flag

its a team game, not individual

[Verthanthi]

yeah but its basing... =/

your not going for records, you're going for control of the flag

its a team game, not individual

The other kind of record, awesome. Like, first spider to break 200 kills or first team to score 300k (I think 200k got broken, if not go back to that one)

[JeBu]

Keep it the way it is, many people like to watch scores after a game and compair them with other games they have played, so do i. :eek:

ehm there could be new way to compare games. how fast team have won that match example other team won it in 30 min and other won it in 18. and then they can look loser squad scores too. there is nothing less to compare.

[bloodzombie]

Voting to keep it the way it is because of records seems retarded to me. Like someone else just said, there'll be different records AND the game will be better, there's no down side to this. If anything, it'll make it more team-oriented like it's supposed to be, because your personal rec won't really matter as much, and there'll be team records to compare (like someone just said, how fast you can crush someone).

[wadi]

Ur allowed to run the time out in TWLJ and TWLD if ur winning. Or atlest half ass it till time runs out. I believe Melee vs elusive 1 of the rounds last finals ended w/o all 50 kills.

But the point was about NEW squad cig, NEW SQUADS. They don't run down the clock, they get stomped fast. BUT that hasn't seemed to stop them from coming back to TWLJ and TWLD, since both those leagues are STILL more populated and frequented then TWLB. And that's the fucking point entirely, point race isn't going to stop new squads from coming to TWLB, to suggest otherwise ignores the two leagues that already have a point cap.

On the issue of stats. They'll adjust. Getting a good W/L, ave, points, terrkills, low TKs, all those things aren't going to be any LESS important because of the point race the numbers will just adjust to the new format.

Honestly, out of all the changes up for voting, this one's a no brainer. Point Race is easier on the staff, eliminates an entire grey area from the Rules (the whole "running" piece of garbage), and doesn't change the game in anyway other than how the points are added up once your done kicking ass or getting your ass kicked. There's no down side here, wtf is the goddamn problem?

[DOTSY]

When a point race goes to 100k it is fun, less then that it is to quickly ended

[JeBu]

When a point race goes to 100k it is fun, less then that it is to quickly ended

ya maybe agree in leagues 100k is good but in ?go base point race to 70 and 20min games are fine

[Force of Nature]

maybe it would be a good idea for pure_luck to give us a stat on what the point race would be too. there is a huge difference ina race to 70k and a race to 300k. somebody told me that a cramming team gets about 8k points per minute. i would be opposed to anything lower than a race to 150k

Spouting out numbers is so dumb.

8k per min.
therefore 80k per 10 mins
therefore 160k per 20 mins
therefore 240k per 30 mins

Now this is for both teams. Therefore 240k divided by 2 = 120k.

Don't forget that its only in cram that you score so high so it has to be strictly less that 120k around 100-110k should be ideal.

[bloodzombie]

Let's not worry about what the score should be, let's vote to make it a race, then we can figure out what the perfect score-goal would be. I'm thinking it'd be around 100k though. the 70k races in ?go base are always less than 20 mins.

[Pure_Luck]

Point race would be to about 100k-125k. Definetly not higher than 125 though or i think the games would be really really long. Time race isn't a choice since the bots couldn't be done in time so throw that out the window.

[Randedl]

This is insanity, you people are nuts. have any of you been playing in ?go base? when it's point race, games are more exciting and more fun and if the game sucks, it's over faster so that we get on to the next one. the 30 minute timer is stupid. New squads will not lose interest if they only get to play for 15 minutes, if anything, they'll lose interest if they have to stay for a full 30 when they're not having fun anymore.

there isn't a "next one" come twl. the game is over til the next week.

people might disagree. . . but i think experience plays a large factor in twl. if my squad is getting blown out of the water every twlb game, i still want half an hour worth of experience/practice. anybody who says that twd offers the same level of competition to improve your squad is full of shit or completely naive.

[Randedl]

Point race would be to about 100k-125k. Definetly not higher than 125 though or i think the games would be really really long. Time race isn't a choice since the bots couldn't be done in time so throw that out the window.

half an hour game or end it when there is over 125k difference between the 2 teams.

just an idea. . .

seriously though, if it's a close game up to 150k, who is going to be opposed to the game going 45 minutes long? if it doesn't, that's still a good 20-30 minutes to play.