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  • #31
    Originally posted by Zingy
    Ikrit, I entirely understand your point of view, but how far apart the score was, was irrelevent.

    Whenever problems like this happen, games are restarted. There is no reason for that not to happen to us. As for the 2nd round, we were obviously dissapointed with what transpired in the first round, so it affected the game.

    The point is that even if one team is winning by 10 points, if a major bot crash like that happens so early in the game, there needs to be a restart (which is exactly what had happened to other games so far in this season).

    The bot died early in the game (under the first 5 minutes!), and we didnt know whether to continue playing or not, and by the time we found out the damage had already been done.

    If the rules said that after a major bot crash early in the game that the host would "manually host" the remainder of the game, I wouldn't be writing this appeal. However the rules say that in the event of a failure, the game should be restarted.

    I'm just going by the rules, and on simple logic.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ikrit
      I said to keep playing! Don't even pretend like I didn't, I have quite a few witnesses.
      I'm not saying you didn't, but that's irrelevent.

      According to 4.01, when a major failure happens a restart is supposed to happen (especially when the crash happens so early in the game).

      I'm not making this stuff up out of my head.
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      • #33
        By the way, just reading this. If the bot did in fact die, the round should be replayed. Even if it lagged for minutes, that causes too much confusion and people assume that the bot died. Just replay the round, it doesn't matter anyway. Sk8 will win the series

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        • #34
          Originally posted by LaG KiLLeR
          By the way, just reading this. If the bot did in fact die, the round should be replayed. Even if it lagged for minutes, that causes too much confusion and people assume that the bot died. Just replay the round, it doesn't matter anyway. Sk8 will win the series
          It's fine if Sk8 wins the "series", I just think it would make this league better if things were done properly, instead of not going by the rules that are posted.
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          • #35
            Aye, the appeal is definitely justified and you should get the replay when going by the book, but I feel Ikrit's decision was correct since there should've been little harm donr as he continued hosting it manually. You should always keep playing (until the host determines the bot has died and decides what to do) even after the bot stops tracking the score, since there can be some major lag/other issues.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Zingy
              The bot died early in the game (within the first 5 minutes!), and we didnt know whether to continue playing or not, and by the time we found out the damage had already been done.
              Let's cut through all the bullshit, your complaint is that you lost. You say you lost because you did not know what to do. We both know that I told both squads what to do and you admitted it when you said "I'm not saying you didn't, but that's irrelevent."

              So, please rewrite your whole argument to just say "I'm pissed because we lost and I think it's unfair that we didn't know what to do because we're too stupid to listen to what the host said"
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ikrit
                Let's cut through all the bullshit, your complaint is that you lost. You say you lost because you did not know what to do. We both know that I told both squads what to do and you admitted it when you said "I'm not saying you didn't, but that's irrelevent."

                So, please rewrite your whole argument to just say "I'm pissed because we lost and I think it's unfair that we didn't know what to do because we're too stupid to listen to what the host said"
                So basically if i'm understanding you correctly, lets throw the rules out the window?

                Why is it that when almost EVERY other game in TWL experiences a massive bot failure, there's a replay. Except when it comes to us, we dont get the same protection of the rules?
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                • #38
                  lol owned O_o
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Zingy
                    So basically if i'm understanding you correctly, lets throw the rules out the window?
                    Yes, just not completely... there are a few pages of that book I like.

                    Here, I'll give you a real life example... let's say at the FIFA World Cup... the entire system crashes... no scoring, no instant replays, no timer... someone just completely trashed the servers in the middle of the game and they can't pull it back up to where it was. I'd be willing to bet $1,000,000 that FIFA would let the game continue and have people keep track of the score/time.

                    I've supplied my arguments for you not know what was going on, so try to find some way to prove I was incapable of handling manual hosting before replying please.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Ikrit
                      Yes, just not completely... there are a few pages of that book I like.

                      Here, I'll give you a real life example... let's say at the FIFA World Cup... the entire system crashes... no scoring, no instant replays, no timer... someone just completely trashed the servers in the middle of the game and they can't pull it back up to where it was. I'd be willing to bet $1,000,000 that FIFA would let the game continue and have people keep track of the score/time.

                      I've supplied my arguments for you not know what was going on, so try to find some way to prove I was incapable of handling manual hosting before replying please.
                      Kind Sir, that is an irrelevent example.

                      In TWL, when the bot crashes, the games are replayed. This has happened all throughout the season.

                      Now when we have this problem, why should we be the exception and NOT get the replay? Especially considering the failure happened so early in the game.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ikrit
                        Yes, just not completely... there are a few pages of that book I like.

                        Here, I'll give you a real life example... let's say at the FIFA World Cup... the entire system crashes... no scoring, no instant replays, no timer... someone just completely trashed the servers in the middle of the game and they can't pull it back up to where it was. I'd be willing to bet $1,000,000 that FIFA would let the game continue and have people keep track of the score/time.

                        I've supplied my arguments for you not know what was going on, so try to find some way to prove I was incapable of handling manual hosting before replying please.
                        There should be a rule placed: If your winning by X amount of kills, the game is manually continued. Otherwise, restarted. Then, random newbies like Zingy wont come to the forums bitching about how their squad got "screwed over".
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Broly
                          There should be a rule placed: If your winning by X amount of kills, the game is manually continued. Otherwise, restarted. Then, random newbies like Zingy wont come to the forums bitching about how their squad got "screwed over".
                          Unfortunately there is no such rule.

                          And stop complaining. If you had faith in your squadron, you wouldn't be so concerned that you would have half of your 49 person roster here annoying me.

                          Rule 4.01 says a replay happens when there is a massive bot failure. That is what happened to us. In other situations where this has happened in TWL, the game has been replayed. There is no reason for these same rules to not apply to us.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Izor
                            LOL ZINGY what did i tell you in game. Staff will ignore you, Sk8 will tell you to 'stfu and quit whining' and players who can see how fucked up of a situation may acknowledge it, but thats about all theyll care to do
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Zingy
                              Unfortunately there is no such rule.

                              And stop complaining. If you had faith in your squadron, you wouldn't be so concerned that you would have half of your 49 person roster here annoying me.

                              Rule 4.01 says a replay happens when there is a massive bot failure. That is what happened to us. In other situations where this has happened in TWL, the game has been replayed. There is no reason for these same rules to not apply to us.
                              I'm complaining? No, you sir, are the whiny bitch here.
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                              • #45
                                broly ur sig is annoying me

                                you japanese wananbe

                                btw u have 1 hr and 37 left on internet
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