4 spid limit and 3 rounds-thoughts?

[MirrorriM]

No ship limits are now being tested in ?go base. Be sure to check it out and try some different line ups! For fun, I'll post some stats of recent games so you can see how they turn out.

First ?go base test:

 MirrorriM> !t2-list
  MatchBot> Freq 2:
  MatchBot> Whispus        - in game     - 1          Toxie          - in game     - 3
  MatchBot> Zogg           - in game     - 3          Elven          - in game     - 4
  MatchBot> FunkPunk       - in game     - 5          Ksv            - in game     - 5
  MatchBot> Duclover       - in game     - 8          Logain         - in game     - 8
  Duclover> TY
 MirrorriM> !t1-list
  MatchBot> Freq 1:
  MatchBot> Flying Shit    - in game     - 3          Pressure Drop  - in game     - 3
  MatchBot> USS Banana     - in game     - 4->2          Erias       - in game     - 5
  MatchBot> Pr0x1m0        - in game     - 5          Cumulonimbus   - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> Executed       - in game     - 8          lnx            - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> Undercut       - substituted - 5

,---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----.
|                               K |    D |   TK |    Points |   FT |  TeK |    Rating | LO |
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 1                  /   213 |  303 |   42 |     33455 |   19 |   19 |    -47209 |  2 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  Cumulonimbus                21 |   37 |    6 |      3095 |    7 |    1 |     -1415 |  0 |
|  Erias                       22 |   15 |    0 |      3449 |    1 |    5 |    -15632 |  2 |
|  Executed                    19 |   55 |   10 |      2948 |    3 |    1 |     -2365 |  0 |
|  Flying Shit                 34 |   48 |    0 |      4381 |    0 |    0 |      -359 |  0 |
|  lnx                         10 |   52 |    4 |      2368 |    3 |    3 |      -949 |  0 |
|  Pr0x1m0                     19 |   19 |    0 |      3425 |    0 |    0 |    -26919 |  0 |
|  Pressure Drop               53 |   52 |    0 |      7501 |    4 |    3 |      2664 |  0 |
|  Undercut                     4 |    6 |    0 |      1487 |    0 |    1 |     -3854 |  0 |
|  USS Banana                  31 |   19 |   22 |      4801 |    1 |    5 |      1620 |  0 |
+---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 2                  /   260 |  239 |   27 |     51517 |   20 |   35 |     10266 |  1 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  Duclover                     9 |   52 |    4 |      3056 |    6 |    0 |     -1045 |  0 |
|  Elven                       29 |    7 |   18 |      6682 |    0 |    4 |      6682 |  0 |
|  FunkPunk                    20 |    9 |    0 |      3773 |    2 |    4 |     -6932 |  1 |
|  Ksv                         18 |   10 |    0 |      4022 |    1 |    3 |    -10740 |  0 |
|  Logain                      21 |   42 |    5 |      5384 |    2 |    2 |     -2010 |  0 |
|  Toxie                       57 |   43 |    0 |      9771 |    3 |    3 |      5846 |  0 |
|  Whispus                     40 |   33 |    0 |      8176 |    2 |   16 |      7548 |  0 |
|  Zogg                        66 |   43 |    0 |     10653 |    4 |    3 |     10917 |  0 |
`---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----'
Freq 2 wins this game!

opinion: A crazy pub game

[MirrorriM]

Result of Freq 1 vs. Freq 2: 1:43 - 10:00
,---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----.
|                               K |    D |   TK |    Points |   FT |  TeK |    Rating | LO |
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 1                  /   167 |  173 |   24 |     10129 |   19 |    2 |       712 |  0 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  Ksv                         26 |   11 |    0 |      1100 |    0 |    0 |     -2581 |  0 |
|  Leitz                       21 |   22 |    4 |      1352 |    4 |    0 |       363 |  0 |
|  lnx                          5 |   36 |    3 |       424 |    4 |    0 |       -97 |  0 |
|  Pr0x1m0                     16 |   27 |   10 |       279 |   10 |    0 |      -124 |  0 |
|  SeF                         14 |   16 |    2 |      1380 |    0 |    1 |        95 |  0 |
|  skatarius                   15 |   21 |    4 |       833 |    0 |    1 |        49 |  0 |
|  USS Banana                  28 |   19 |    0 |      1838 |    1 |    0 |      1028 |  0 |
|  Whispus                     42 |   21 |    1 |      2923 |    0 |    0 |      1979 |  0 |
+---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 2                  /   149 |  244 |   77 |     41425 |   20 |   12 |     -6754 |  0 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|5 Burnt                       38 |    3 |    0 |      7954 |    1 |    5 |     24495 |  0 |
|8 Duclover                    12 |   28 |   15 |      3955 |    2 |    2 |     -4769 |  0 |
|8 Executed                    22 |   42 |   19 |      5809 |    1 |    0 |     -9337 |  0 |
|8 mcvicar                     20 |   39 |    8 |      5582 |    1 |    2 |     -3603 |  0 |
|8 MirrorriM                   10 |   30 |    4 |      3483 |    8 |    0 |     -1173 |  0 |
|8 Nimesh                      15 |   35 |    9 |      4906 |    1 |    1 |     -3601 |  0 |
|8 Pressure Drop               16 |   34 |   13 |      5156 |    0 |    0 |     -5439 |  0 |
|8 Toxie                       16 |   33 |    9 |      4580 |    6 |    2 |     -3327 |  0 |
`---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----'
Freq 2 wins this game!

opinion: 7 sharks cant time! and "omg team has too many mines"


MatchBot> USS Banana - in game - 1 Leitz - in game - 2
MatchBot> SeF - in game - 2 skatarius - in game - 2
MatchBot> Whispus - in game - 3 Ksv - in game - 5
MatchBot> Pr0x1m0 - in game - 8 lnx - in game - 8

(They started with all weasels in the beginning)

[MirrorriM]

 MirrorriM> !t1-list
  MatchBot> gobase:
  MatchBot> Erias          - in game     - 2          ODERus URungus - in game     - 3
  MatchBot> Whispus        - in game     - 3          cyrus          - in game     - 4
  MatchBot> Dethdefire     - in game     - 5          mcvicar        - in game     - 7
  MatchBot> Ephemeral      - in game     - 8          MirrorriM      - in game     - 8
     cyrus> deth safe??
 MirrorriM> !t2-list
  MatchBot> pub:
  MatchBot> Sal            - in game     - 2          Anidalife      - in game     - 3
  MatchBot> Pressure Drop  - in game     - 3          FunkPunk       - in game     - 4
  MatchBot> I Luv Milfs    - in game     - 5          WorstPlayerEver- in game     - 5
  MatchBot> Dameon Angell  - in game     - 8          SynthetiK      - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> Ksv            - substituted - 3

Result of gobase vs. pub: 10:00 - 4:14
,---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----.
|                               K |    D |   TK |    Points |   FT |  TeK |    Rating | LO |
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| gobase                  /   261 |  207 |   30 |     56143 |   12 |   54 |     13567 |  0 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  cyrus                       35 |   14 |    2 |      7474 |    1 |    2 |      4382 |  0 |
|  Dethdefire                  10 |    5 |    0 |      2825 |    0 |    3 |     -2477 |  0 |
|  Ephemeral                   37 |   41 |   12 |      8071 |    4 |   11 |     -6715 |  0 |
|  Erias                       27 |   25 |   11 |      6419 |    1 |   11 |      2357 |  0 |
|  mcvicar                     52 |   33 |    0 |      8728 |    0 |    7 |      5148 |  0 |
|  MirrorriM                   16 |   37 |    5 |      4722 |    6 |    4 |     -1570 |  0 |
|  ODERus URungus              42 |   23 |    0 |      8500 |    0 |    8 |      6932 |  0 |
|  Whispus                     42 |   29 |    0 |      9404 |    0 |    8 |      5510 |  0 |
+---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| pub                     /   177 |  275 |   14 |     19828 |   11 |    5 |    -37902 |  0 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  Anidalife                   28 |   29 |    0 |      2169 |    2 |    0 |       183 |  0 |
|  Dameon Angell                4 |   59 |    2 |      1453 |    4 |    0 |      -412 |  0 |
|  FunkPunk                    16 |   34 |   10 |      1711 |    1 |    2 |     -2367 |  0 |
|  I Luv Milfs                 22 |   15 |    0 |      2372 |    0 |    2 |    -12186 |  0 |
|  Ksv                          7 |    9 |    0 |      1321 |    0 |    0 |     -2750 |  0 |
|  Pressure Drop               52 |   34 |    0 |      3713 |    0 |    0 |      -579 |  0 |
|  Sal                         17 |   22 |    2 |      2244 |    1 |    0 |     -1095 |  0 |
|  SynthetiK                    4 |   56 |    0 |      1612 |    2 |    0 |       -83 |  0 |
|  WorstPlayerEver             27 |   17 |    0 |      3233 |    1 |    1 |    -18613 |  0 |
`---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----'
gobase wins this game!

One line was normal and one was all terrs in the beginning, the all terr team eventually switched to other ships

[MirrorriM]

 MirrorriM> !t1-list
  MatchBot> Freq 1:
  MatchBot> hypocrit       - in game     - 2          Beast of the Ea- in game     - 3
  MatchBot> MirrorriM      - in game     - 3          Dutch Baser    - in game     - 5
  MatchBot> skatarius      - in game     - 5          Raples         - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> Remu           - in game     - 8          Sal            - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> fit of rage    - substituted - 3          wz             - substituted - 5
  MatchBot> Mikkiz         - substituted - 8          
Executed left arena
Freq 1 needs 1 minute of flag time to win
 MirrorriM> !t2-list
  MatchBot> Freq 2:
  MatchBot> AEn|ma         - in game     - 1          I Luv Milfs    - in game     - 3
  MatchBot> zeebu          - in game     - 3          ODERus URungus - in game     - 5
  MatchBot> hellkite       - in game     - 8          i.d.           - in game     - 8
  MatchBot> project dragon - in game     - 8          Ameno          - substituted - 3
  MatchBot> menelvagor     - lagged out  - 5

Result of Freq 1 vs. Freq 2: 10:00 - 6:02
,---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----.
|                               K |    D |   TK |    Points |   FT |  TeK |    Rating | LO |
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 1                  /   263 |  249 |   27 |     59911 |   23 |   22 |     10153 |  2 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  Beast of the East           80 |   40 |    0 |     12242 |    1 |    1 |     23112 |  0 |
|  Dutch Baser                 20 |    5 |    0 |      5262 |    0 |    2 |      -103 |  0 |
|  fit of rage                  3 |    2 |    0 |      2213 |    0 |    0 |       147 |  0 |
|  hypocrit                    26 |   18 |    4 |      6340 |    0 |    4 |      2557 |  0 |
|  Mikkiz                       6 |   17 |    7 |      3427 |    2 |    0 |     -1866 |  0 |
|  MirrorriM                   56 |   36 |    0 |     10138 |    1 |    3 |     10819 |  1 |
|  Raples                       5 |   27 |    0 |       830 |    0 |    1 |       -13 |  1 |
|  Remu                        24 |   52 |    7 |      6074 |   16 |    4 |     -3231 |  0 |
|  Sal                         16 |   37 |    9 |      4940 |    2 |    3 |     -4203 |  0 |
|  skatarius                   23 |   11 |    0 |      5818 |    1 |    4 |    -12999 |  0 |
|  wz                           4 |    4 |    0 |      2627 |    0 |    0 |     -4067 |  0 |
+---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
|                          ,------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----+
| Freq 2                  /   222 |  304 |   41 |     30712 |   22 |   18 |    -14905 |  0 |
+------------------------'        |      |      |           |      |      |           |    |
|  AEn|ma                      12 |   33 |    1 |      1934 |    0 |    1 |     -1007 |  0 |
|  Ameno                       28 |   16 |   10 |      3893 |    0 |    4 |      2599 |  0 |
|  hellkite                    29 |   52 |    9 |      4508 |    4 |    2 |     -3845 |  0 |
|  I Luv Milfs                 51 |   59 |    4 |      6184 |    1 |    4 |      4339 |  0 |
|  i.d.                        22 |   50 |    6 |      3833 |    2 |    2 |      -716 |  0 |
|  menelvagor                  15 |   23 |    0 |      2697 |   11 |    0 |     -3334 |  0 |
|  ODERus URungus              30 |   14 |    0 |      3254 |    0 |    3 |    -10316 |  0 |
|  project dragon              28 |   44 |    9 |      2942 |    3 |    2 |     -2485 |  0 |
|  zeebu                        7 |   13 |    2 |      1467 |    1 |    0 |      -140 |  0 |
`---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+------+------+-----------+----'
Freq 1 wins this game!

Of all the games so far, this was by far the most "organized" and resembled more of a base game than pub

[Evul Fly]

no.

[megaman89]

no limit could be the worst idea EVER.

[MirrorriM]

After a few days of no limit basing, I'll be trying other limits and tweaking things a bit. Some squads should take advantage and see if they can figure out a new line.

[Funk]

1 round, if you slack one round then you lose. No excuses and no BS. Give it all or lose. As for basing play 7 spiders if you want. Game shouldn't be nerfed since people can't handle something. Forcing a spider limit is like forcing 1 wb a jav in twld. Foolish....

Web

It's been a while, but I have a small update:

We are getting a new TWL site! woo! It is a long and laborious task, but hopefully you all will like the new and improved version. One of the main improvements over the other site will be an eligibility check. Instead of skimming through forums and trying to make sure none of your players are ineligible, the site will do this for you. Hopefully we will also be able to work this into the TWL bots (as you all may have noticed the bots have not been very cooperative the past few days) also so that it will not allow an ineligible player to be added and thus avoid the forfeit mess from past TWL seasons.

Now, on to business. I ran across a thread a long time ago where it seemed many players would like TWLJ and TWLD games to be 3 rounds instead of 1. What does everyone think?

Also, the 4 spid limit has been brought up. It was used in BWC and now TWDT, should it be implemented in TWL?

One additional point: Cram blocks wont be in TWL, just like how it is now in TWD

[Pearl Jam]

no limit could be the worst idea EVER.

Worth a shot even if it doesn't work. Appreciate the input though, superstar.

[megaman89]

Worth a shot even if it doesn't work. Appreciate the input though, superstar.

may I ask what the fuck your problem is with me. Sorry I don't feel the need to type an essay on why I think it's the worst idea ever I make it short and to the point. Thanks for the comment though TWL's #1 1st runner up

[PaulOakenfold]

Maybe because he doesn't really see what your thinking is on the subject. How does he or anyone know if you really thought it through? I agree, an essay isn't necessary.

[megaman89]

After watching TWDTB I can safely say that spider limits would hurt TWL. Sure 5 spiders is boring, I admit, but let's face it. There are not enough teams that have competent base javs or wbs. What you will see is laggy javs and wbs destroying TWLB due to the fact that you have to rep before they shoot. Before this can be remedied, please so not expect a 4 spider limit to be a success.

edit: and by the way, if you think 5 spiders is boring, way til you see 3 sharks. Can you say endless cram in 15 minutes?

this is why. thank you vati

[Necromotic]

I approve of a 4 spider limit :thumbsup:

[Capital Knockers]

this is why. thank you vati

mega, the point they're all making is simple. you're just sitting here screaming NO NO NO, because all your squad can do is base with 5 spiders and you don't want to lower your chances at winning. While everyone else here is trying to make the game more fun for EVERYONE, not just their squad. Get a grip dude, loosing LB won't kill you.

oh, and pssst - someone already destroyed that arguement by vati rather easily.

That tactic would easily fail. lack of spiders allows the other team to easily green a couple of leviathans and bomb the crap outta the fr and go in.

may I ask what the fuck your problem is with me. Sorry I don't feel the need to type an essay on why I think it's the worst idea ever I make it short and to the point. Thanks for the comment though TWL's #1 1st runner up

Let me answer for him. His problem with you is, you aren't making ANY points. Nothing that could hold up as a decent arguement in this topic anyhow. You're just wailing NO don't do it, it'll spoil everything for my squad! You don't need an essay, and you don't need to be a genius to read between the lines on your posts mega.

[megaman89]

mega, the point they're all making is simple. you're just sitting here screaming NO NO NO, because all your squad can do is base with 5 spiders and you don't want to lower your chances at winning. While everyone else here is trying to make the game more fun for EVERYONE, not just their squad. Get a grip dude, loosing LB won't kill you.

Your an idiot if you think I'm saying no because it will hurt my chances winning LB for the 4th time. Do the 4 spid limit we will still win I have no doubt in my mind. What your going to do is make the competitive basing squads out there working their asses off to get into playoffs and trying to upset us, spastic, bcrew, brainwave, penetrate. Especially pene and bw who bd constantly and are clearly improving and getting better by the day. All that hard work is going to go down the drain b/c there are about 3 good base javs that are out there and who you think are going to get them? The top 3 squads. You think TWL, especially TWLB has 2 more seasons to wait for each squad to have a top notch LB jav? No it fucking doesn't. The fastest dieing league skillwise is TWLB and if you do this 4 spid bullshit it will die even quicker. But hey lets listen to a guy who came back from not playing for a fucking year and let your march in here pretending you know something, who knows if you even played a TWLB season seriously and your saying all this shit about dice and what I think. Are you a mind reader no? shut the fuck up. I want more competition in TWLB and this season there will be more if people smarten up and don't listen to complete idiots like yourself