Mafia: What a time to be alive!

[ixt]

As to how the roles appear to me, seems like the mod does not appreciate roles that have absolutely no ability, I'm hazarding a guess that everyone has some sort of skill, no matter how small. If exalt's claim is true, mafia has a cop, doc, and roleblocker? Thinking more about it, exalt would appear more pro-town on second thought. With his skill of the game, if he claimed vigi KNOWING FULL WELL if he was mafia it was impossible to create a double death, why would he make himself a point of focus, especially from the start of the game? Exalt to address your small suspicion on me: remember my play at the start of the game? Only realistic explanation IF I WERE MAFIA would be the godfather and not a goon, but I am neither of those. Nobody else is giving me immediate doubts (mido for sure is clear) so ill be deciding how rodney and exalt will play out next.

[ixt]

Final Vote Count:
BIET - 6 (Zeebu, Undercut, Missa, ixt, BIET, midoent, Rodney)
Rodney - 1 (Exalt)

No Vote from: BIET

Since BIET hasn't come up with a defense so far and has successfully dodged this phase, I don't see a reason to keep it going another ~3 hours - might as well change now.
BIET was the Mafia's Doctor.

Night 4 begins.

I'm VERY confused here. Reasons? If we are assuming 3 mafia, my hunch is the last is among exalt and rodney. Also note to mido good work with your task!

[fiS]

Final Vote Count:
BIET - 6 (Zeebu, Undercut, Missa, ixt, BIET, midoent, Rodney)
Rodney - 1 (Exalt)

No Vote from: BIET

Since BIET hasn't come up with a defense so far and has successfully dodged this phase, I don't see a reason to keep it going another ~3 hours - might as well change now.
BIET was the Mafia's Doctor.

Night 4 begins.

[Zeebu]

exalt seems sincere about his role but either he doesnt have any bullets or he's been really unlucky/mafia has been really lucky. and then on rodney, having the vengeful modifier on a nurse of all roles just seems silly. voth's role claim was more believable than that.

wouldnt be surprised if there was a nurse or some sort of backup in the game though. if exalt is to be totally believed, it seems like there would almost need to be a nurse or soemthing since exalt outlined scenerios where all of the mafia seem to have power roles. town needs a lot to counteract it, and i guess they have as evidenced by the fact that theres only been a single kill every night when the game started with 3 killing roles (mafia, sk and vigi)

but yeah vote biet

and rodney seems likely to be next.

[ixt]

Zeebu then your thoughts? as u were seemingly mia for most of the landmark things that happened this game, aside from BIET guaranteed going bye bye this phase, what are your thoughts on exalt and rodney?

[Zeebu]

hey guys, easter weekend kinda killed my activity, sorry. general consensus appears to be is that biet is a bad guy.

[ixt]

lmao do u read my recent posts how rodney and u voiced opinions hinting different sides? how is that "defending" i do not know. but phase should end fast...town seems fairly certain in the choice.

[Undercut]

There's also one more huge inconsistency in Rodney's story. Night 2, Field roleblocked Rodney, and I shot at Rodney. Rodney would not have been able to protect himself even when I fiS allowed a nurse to do so. Roleblocker takes precedence, so Rodney should have died.

Let me just get these out here before ixt blows up claiming I'm defending rodney yet again, I'm not sold on rodney's claim and there is a very good chance he is lying. With that being said, you also failed on night 3 exalt, maybe you're just a naive vigilante. With an SK and a mafia in a game this small another NK would be way too much.

Now back to rodney. You're the only person in the game to not vote for voth last day phase. You even went out of your way to make an entire post about why you thought voting for voth would be a good idea for town yet at the end of the day you kept your vote on me.

Vote: Biet

I'll bite on mido's claim for today but I'm still not sold on either exalt or rodney.

[ixt]

also mod, u kinda made a mistake. vote count, YOU DIDNT EVEN INCLUDE THE PERSON WHOS IN DANGER OF BEING VOTED OUT LMAO need to hear from zeebu, undercut, and WHO ELSE???? makes the role pretty much clear cut. BIET is mafia.

[RoDNeY]

so exalt didn't vote biet?

See what im getting at ixt? His end game is getting scummier and scummer man

[ixt]

Current Vote Count:
BIET - 4 (Missa, ixt, midoent, Rodney)
Rodney - 1 (Exalt)

No Votes from: Zeebu, Undercut
Warning: we need to hear more from both of you (Zeebu & Undercut).
More than a one liner.

Mod Info:
As in previous game(s), all roles may target themselves.
I'll add this right here right now because it is a mechanic which I did not state in the rules and mechanics should not be debated too much, as they should be clear from the start. (I apologize for that)

Everyone needs to play to win though. If you want to forfeit, ixt, let me know, I'll try to find a sub.
Yes, there's some players laying low on content, but it has been this way since I started playing TW Mafia.

Phase changing in ~24 hours.

so exalt didn't vote biet?

[RoDNeY]

you must have typed that essay before you saw fis comment on the fact that i can protect myself LOL

gg

[Exalt]

It was a bad play to protect myself? I'm failing to see how thats possible considering you shot at me and would have had 2 dead townies in one night and left us with 1 less vote in the end. Seems like it wasnt a bad play at all. AND YES I CAN PROTECT MYSELF this isnt unlikely in TW mafia games man, doctors and nurses almost always have the ability to protect themselves stop trying to stray off here you are wrong entirely.

Im starting to get an increasingly scum vibe from exalt the more and more this game progresses into late game. Seems like the godfather could have been under our nose the entire time perhaps?
Hiding in plain sight in an attempt to be dubbed the most vocal townie? Nobody has confirmed Exalt at all, he has yet to confirm himself yet either, we believed you to be town by the way you started off the game but as of now im getting the complete opposite read from you. Especially with how bad you want to lynch the last protection that we have... The fact that you cant understand why i would wait so long to claim my protective role is mind boggling.

The fact that 2 PRs were already out in the open, both of whose roles were 1000 times more valuable than a random nurse, and instead of literally using your role as intended by protecting those valuable PRs, you protected yourself instead, AND to top it off, you refused to claim even though you could have protected yourself (drawing scum's NK and making them not get a kill) is what's mind boggling. You must really think people are idiots. Otherwise, you are really, really bad at mafia, because there's literally no reason as to why you did what you claimed to do. None. Any smart person with the role you claim to have would have claimed after me calling you out and then protected yourself, knowing you would draw scum's NK as an auto-target. That's the only correct move to make, and it's literally common sense to have done that. You not doing so is so ridiculously stupid and bad that there's no way you are not lying your ass off, because otherwise, it means you directly helped town lose for no reason whatsoever other than stupidity. Frankly, I'd have to think of you as a worse player than Jessup to believe this, and I've seen you play enough to know better.

Sorry, but you really have no excuses. Beyond that, the simple fact that you claim you can protect yourself every night and then have some vengeful modifier with a lynch means your role would be so OP that the entire game should be cancelled over the imbalance of it. It's completely unbelievable in every way, so you didn't think this through well enough it seems. Sure, it may have worked against all the new players who don't understand the game well enough yet, but you can't seriously think this will work on anyone that does. Doctors cannot protect themselves for a reason, because that makes them effectively bulletproof. Town roles are never indefinitely bulletproof for a reason. Also, even if it were possible for WillBy, he had a 1-shot chance to use it, not an indefinite one.

That all said, you are sketchy AF, and if you really are town, then you'd have no problem being lynched to help us win the game. Your lynch is necessary at this point due to how completely useless and anti-town you've been all game, and if your vengeful modifier really is real, then it has the added benefit of verifying IXT by making him the last one to vote you. Since he claims 1-shot bulletproof, it will proof or disprove that right away. It's a win-win, because assuming BIET is scum, town have at least 2 mislynches to go, and you really need to go. There's no 2 ways around it. You have done nothing to find scum all game, nothing to help town in any way, and you've been saved by scum on Day 1 by them refusing to vote you. I shot at you two nights in a row, one of which Field roleblocked you and the other of which you cannot seem to explain, and then you claimed that N3 you protected me over the obvious target WillBy, who coincidentally is the one who died. I'm sure that was just a random coincidence, and it was never planned, right? Your failure to role claim when it was required of you to not be considered auto-scum never happened, and you have absolutely no legitimate reasons whatsoever as to why it didn't. The only viable reason is that you are scum and needed time to figure out a proper fake claim, but as we see, you fucked it up by leaving huge holes in your story. If your story was true, then honestly, you need to apologize to IXT for calling him bad at this, because your play would be next level stupid that TW Mafia has maybe never seen before. Are you really saying that's the truth of it? So either you're a horrible player or scum, with no inbetween. What does town gain by keeping you around then?

[fiS]

Current Vote Count:
BIET - 4 (Missa, ixt, midoent, Rodney)
Rodney - 1 (Exalt)

No Votes from: Zeebu, Undercut
Warning: we need to hear more from both of you (Zeebu & Undercut).
More than a one liner.

Mod Info:
As in previous game(s), all roles may target themselves.
I'll add this right here right now because it is a mechanic which I did not state in the rules and mechanics should not be debated too much, as they should be clear from the start. (I apologize for that)

Everyone needs to play to win though. If you want to forfeit, ixt, let me know, I'll try to find a sub.
Yes, there's some players laying low on content, but it has been this way since I started playing TW Mafia.

Phase changing in ~24 hours.

[RoDNeY]

WillBy told me. It doesn't even matter what field did though, because nurses cannot protect themselves. If so, then Soilderz would have protected himself N1 as well. It's pretty obvious. You just didn't think your fake claim through well enough, even though you took 2 full days to come up with it. Also, if it was real and you didn't protect WillBy N2 after his claim lynched scum, and you legit protected yourself instead, then you really do deserve the lynch you'll be getting for your play. There's no excuse for that type of bad play unless you are scum.

It was a bad play to protect myself? I'm failing to see how thats possible considering you shot at me and would have had 2 dead townies in one night and left us with 1 less vote in the end. Seems like it wasnt a bad play at all. AND YES I CAN PROTECT MYSELF this isnt unlikely in TW mafia games man, doctors and nurses almost always have the ability to protect themselves stop trying to stray off here you are wrong entirely.

Im starting to get an increasingly scum vibe from exalt the more and more this game progresses into late game. Seems like the godfather could have been under our nose the entire time perhaps?
Hiding in plain sight in an attempt to be dubbed the most vocal townie? Nobody has confirmed Exalt at all, he has yet to confirm himself yet either, we believed you to be town by the way you started off the game but as of now im getting the complete opposite read from you. Especially with how bad you want to lynch the last protection that we have... The fact that you cant understand why i would wait so long to claim my protective role is mind boggling.