Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[Exalt]

Beast

I'm fine with lynching any of those names, but figuring out what happened last night can solve the game, and someone is obviously lying imo.

[Kassius]

My vests get used up even if I'm not targeted. I started the game with 3 to use. I can only use them on myself. I've also been told that the vests do protect against vampire bites.

Beast said no-one visited Willby, that means I was targeted. I'm very conflicted right now, as the only reason to NK me other than being an 'easy hit' would be cause I was riding Willby pretty hard which could mean I was on to something. But that would mean town would have no doctor role this game.

[Beast]

missing origin stories from kthx, vehicle, and partyfalcon.

[PartyFalcon]

Hey y’all, just finished work for the day and then reading all of the pages that everyone posted in the last 12 hours. I’m glad we lynched sdrawckcab obviously, I was AFK at time of actual double-lynch, and yes I voted for Voth. A bad look, yes. But, keep in mind that the only people who know who the good vs bad guys are...are the bad guys. So why would I go so hard on voth if I knew he’d flip town? I’d know that’s a bad look.

For anyone who cares why I voted for voth:
Yes, you may have correctly identified a cognitive dissonance in my vote for voth however it was NOT me voting with my emotions/instincts, it was me voting against my emotions (I’m not sure which of you pushed this narrative, but it was a weird one—I did admit he was grating to play with, insufferable, etc., but my focus was on WHY THE FUCK DID HE THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO BUS DRIVE HIMSELF AND JESSUP NIGHT 1 AND WAS HE GOING TO PULL THAT SHIT AGAIN?) Voth was playing anti-town. My policy in a time when I must vote to kill but I do not have any tangible reasons (just unsubstantiated hunches) is to vote for the player who is playing the most consistently anti-town, or makes the most extremely anti-town play(s). Any time I vote to kill anyone, I try to ask them WHY they did the anti-town things I’ve identified, and WHAT they intend to do in the future (ie more anti-town things?). If everyone is playing by best behavior (ie playing to your win condition), a reasonable townie should honestly not have a problem getting me to remove my vote from them—go back and re-read what my long post to voth was, and voth’s responses, and my follow-up questions... voth was unable to offer me any assurances that he recognized that he was playing in an anti-town way, nor confirm that he would cease to use his busing powers whimsically. Had voth actually AT LEAST CONFIRMED he wouldn’t bus drive the next night I would have unvoted, but, absent any assurance of that, voth looked like a lynch with a high likelihood of having a pro-town utility.

The tl;dr for why I voted for voth:
I thought he was scum, and I thought that even if he wasn’t scum he was going to end up helping them by not playing to his win condition. If that’s not enough to justify a vote on an info-less day 2, then sorry my dudes but I bet it’s more than most of you have considered in defense of your votes if you’re honest with yourself.


Also to clarify because this was apparently unclear? My post at the beginning of the day phase was not intending to doubt/throw shade on kassius nor trying to say the mafia definitely abstained or anything nutso. I just know there are some relatively new players on here (kassius included IIRC), and I knew I was about to turn my phone back off to work for the following 10 hours, and wanted to make sure I didn’t come back on here now to find out that every town power role had claimed so we could confirm that kassius was targeted—so I threw out a few quick possibilities (each of which does not permit the inference kassius wanted to make) that newer players may not realize were possibilities, but that I HAVE SEEN IN GAMES WITH THESE PLAYERS BEFORE (mafia abstain on nights 1 AND/OR 2, poison, arson), not just making up crazy shit out of my ass. There are indeed even MoRe CrAZy PoSsIbIlItIeS but who cares I’m going to sleep.

I’m not particularly suspicious of anyone at the moment, but I do want to go back through sdrawkcab’s posts (and voting patterns), IIRC he was throwing shade at Jessup? and ?kassius? (These are not people I’m suspicious of), but I can’t recall who he may have been vibing with—hopefully will have time tomorrow & letcha know my thoughts. Also I’m in California (PST) so please also excuse my time zone struggles.

Nugget of goodnight wisdom for the new folks: it’s easier as a townie to get tricked by scum than it is to catch one.

[Kassius]

Vote PartyFalcon

[PartyFalcon]

Vote PartyFalcon

Really, you gonna do me like that and not even give a reason?

[Jessup]

Vote PartyFalcon

Why KAss? That seemed like a good defense to me. Plus he openly said he had suspicions on his bro(sdrawkcab) that he was mafia. Bro's know bros best. Personally for me outta the 4 he is least likely scum but happy to hear what others thoughts are.

[Kassius]

Partly for the lols after such a long post :laugh4:

I only know who I don't want to vote for, that's Beast and Jessup. PF hasn't posted a lot, and I think his post just after phase change was weak. The scum team are quiet imo, because they're waiting on PF to confirm actions/responses perhaps.

There's some other useless lurkers that would be easier lynches, e.g. Apoc.

[Kassius]

Let's see what leaving a vote on PF for now will do for others, there aren't too many voters yet. I had a hunch on Hook at the end of last game and turned out to be right in the same vein.

[Jessup]

Current Vote Count:

Jessup-1 Vote (by Willby)

Willby- 1 Vote (by Jessup)

PartyFalcan- 1 Vote (by Kassius)

Lets go!! Town roles you have info, I know it.. Choose and give reason!!! :gorgeous:

No time for dilly dallying today.. We need a concerted effort here.

[Exalt]

My vests get used up even if I'm not targeted. I started the game with 3 to use. I can only use them on myself. I've also been told that the vests do protect against vampire bites.

Beast said no-one visited Willby, that means I was targeted. I'm very conflicted right now, as the only reason to NK me other than being an 'easy hit' would be cause I was riding Willby pretty hard which could mean I was on to something. But that would mean town would have no doctor role this game.

What's a vampire bite do? Does it turn them into a vampire too? Like a cult recruiter?

[Jessup]

VAMPIRE ToS Description

Convert others to

Vampires

at night. If you bite any member of the

Mafia

that isn't the

Godfather

or any member of the

Coven

besides the

Coven Leader

with the

Necronomicon

(Immune roles), they will die and you will be able to bite again the next night. You must wait one night after a successful conversion to bite again. Win by killing or converting all

Town

members,

Mafia

,

Coven

,

Neutral Killing

roles

There can only be 4 vampires maximum. If the Vampires bite while they have 4 members, they will deal a Basic attack to their target regardless of who they are.

[Jessup]

The real concern even more than a vamp is an Arsonist.

• You can select a target each night to douse them in gasoline. Selecting yourself will ignite all doused players, dealing an Unstoppable attack to each of them.
• Players will not know if they are doused unless they are another Arsonist.
• You will appear innocent to the Sheriff if they interrogate you.
• All doused players will show up as "Bodyguard, Godfather or Arsonist (plus Crusader in the Coven DLC)" to Investigators, while Consiglieres see all doused players as an Arsonist, similar to a Hex Master's hex. Witches or the Coven Leader aren't affected by your douse.
• Choosing no action at night will clean gasoline off of yourself. If you select this option, you will not be able to be ignited and you will not be doused anymore. This is useful if there are other Arsonists in the game.

[Jessup]

This is why Willby is so fucking dangerous possibly

[Kassius]

This is why Willby is so fucking dangerous possibly

It's not inconceivable that there is no town doctor. Recently vociferous Willby defenders might be vampires now..