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  • Originally posted by Jessup View Post
    Beast has refused to say who he blocked this phase too.. just I got nothing is all he said
    I'd like beast to answer about this, because you all say I've been MIA, and I have due to that other game, but I can't remember a single post Beast made this game that was relevant at all. He also claimed watcher and then flipped to tracker later? And you're right, ToS doesn't have a watcher role, so why did he claim watcher to begin with?

    The only thing that looks good is WillBy visiting me N1, but maybe scum have some kind of watcher role too? Idk. I can't find anything in the ToS wiki about it, but then again, I can't find anything about a shapeshifter either, which is what backwards flipped.

    Also, why did Beast basically try to screw WillBy over on Day 2 by announcing their roles like he did? And why didn't he watch WillBy last night or any other night?

    This whole game sucks.

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    • @beast.. who did you watch last night.. it isn't a hard question beast and I dunno why you wouldn't tell today :\
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      • Originally posted by Kassius View Post
        Lol I love the, 'now claiming he doesn't have 4 vests' analysis. I never claimed any total. How would Willby know how many I had either? He's a doctor. You're an idiot, Exalt.

        No-one has asked me how many vests I have, yet are all perfectly happy to just pluck numbers out of their asses. It's not in my interest to let people who can kill me at night to know how many I have. So I haven't volunteered this information as it's the only thing keeping me alive at night so far.

        Show me any action I've done during the day phase that has been anti-town, other than the very first Voth vote where I was forced to to preserve myself.
        WillBy has played ToS so I just assumed he was right. If I'm an idiot, why are you so afraid to actually be honest about your role? You've lied all fucking game long, and frankly, a survivor is as anti-town a role as it gets. I'd be down with lynching you just so you don't win, because if I'm going to lose to fucking scum Paul again, at least I'd get some satisfaction from it.
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        • Again this is link everyone for Jessup Role Claim as Sheriff if anyone hasn't seen it, things get buried fast here.

          https://forums.trenchwars.com/forum/...f-salem/page65
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          • Originally posted by Exalt View Post

            WillBy has played ToS so I just assumed he was right. If I'm an idiot, why are you so afraid to actually be honest about your role? You've lied all fucking game long, and frankly, a survivor is as anti-town a role as it gets. I'd be down with lynching you just so you don't win, because if I'm going to lose to fucking scum Paul again, at least I'd get some satisfaction from it.
            Thanks, you can't show any anti Town actions I've done all game long, because I haven't. Calm down, just because u made assumptions and are wrong, don't need to throw your toys out of the pram.

            Please tell me also what I have said is untrue. I have said I've used 2 vests so far if I recall correctly.

            Lynching me would always be completely idiotic as it will rob you of a chance to remove scum from the game.

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            • I was also the second vote on apoc if you recall.

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              • Originally posted by Kassius View Post

                Thanks, you can't show any anti Town actions I've done all game long, because I haven't. Calm down, just because u made assumptions and are wrong, don't need to throw your toys out of the pram.

                Please tell me also what I have said is untrue. I have said I've used 2 vests so far if I recall correctly.

                Lynching me would always be completely idiotic as it will rob you of a chance to remove scum from the game.
                I have an idea. If Paul really is a vigilante, then he should shoot Kassius again, since Kassius shouldn't have any more BPs left. Paul claims he knows Kassius isn't town, therefore it's pro-town to kill off the scummy survivor. It would confirm Paul if scum shot elsewhere too, which I'd think they'd have to do to have a shot at winning.

                Kassius loses, which I'm happy with. Paul gets confirmed town if he's not scum, because scum don't have the luxery of shooting the same person two nights in a row, plus Paul claims he won't be using his shots anymore after this, so he mine as well do that. If he is scum, he's fucking caught.

                Sounds like a good plan to me.
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                • Lol, shoot me so I don't win, increasing the chance you lose. Great strategy. Fucking Einstein here guys.

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                  • Originally posted by Kassius View Post
                    Lol, shoot me so I don't win, increasing the chance you lose. Great strategy. Fucking Einstein here guys.
                    Survivors always vote with whatever team is winning, regardless of alignment,, making them anti-town. You cannot be counted on to help town, and frankly, your lying is enough to call bullshit on anything you claim is pro-town to begin with.

                    Besides, every vote you do make is random and will only go with whatever the majority is, because again, you don't give a fuck who dies. You only want to survive. Killing off the survivor is always the pro-town move, which is why survivors don't claim in the first place usually. You were lucky to have some random BPs that aren't normal, but since you lied about that too, get fucked.

                    You can die for a good cause. Paul can confirm himself town or be caught as scum by killing you I think. He also said he didn't plan to use his last shot, so he mine as well use it on the scummy survivor and save town a lynch. It's a win-win scenario if you ask me.
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                    • Lol, keeps saying I'm lying, posts nothing to back it up. Nice try, scum. Town is in the lead and I'll continue to try and keep it that way. As I've done all game long.

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                      • Originally posted by Exalt View Post

                        I have an idea. If Paul really is a vigilante, then he should shoot Kassius again, since Kassius shouldn't have any more BPs left. Paul claims he knows Kassius isn't town, therefore it's pro-town to kill off the scummy survivor. It would confirm Paul if scum shot elsewhere too, which I'd think they'd have to do to have a shot at winning.

                        Kassius loses, which I'm happy with. Paul gets confirmed town if he's not scum, because scum don't have the luxery of shooting the same person two nights in a row, plus Paul claims he won't be using his shots anymore after this, so he mine as well do that. If he is scum, he's fucking caught.

                        Sounds like a good plan to me.
                        Why should paul use his last bullet on kass rofl.. kass has voted with town to remove to scum. I feel like you are flailing Exalt. I am giving you every chance digging up stuff for you to support your ideas to show how beast of kass or paul could be scum but it isn't convincing me.. its not panned out like this from my perspective. I got IBO on both beast and kass sigh and partyfalcon. sigh.... I'm indulging your theories but I'm still now being swayed at this stage. OF course a slight chance I'm wrong but I see no proof to otherwise dissuade me.
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                        • INOCCENT on Beast Kass and PartyFAlcon **
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                          • Originally posted by Jessup View Post

                            Why should paul use his last bullet on kass rofl.. kass has voted with town to remove to scum. I feel like you are flailing Exalt. I am giving you every chance digging up stuff for you to support your ideas to show how beast of kass or paul could be scum but it isn't convincing me.. its not panned out like this from my perspective. I got IBO on both beast and kass sigh and partyfalcon. sigh.... I'm indulging your theories but I'm still now being swayed at this stage. OF course a slight chance I'm wrong but I see no proof to otherwise dissuade me.
                            I already showed why I think Paul is scum. I cannot make it any more obvious. If you want to fuck up, be my guest, but I absolutely will be giving all of you fuk fuk idiots shit for the rest of the year over this. I caught scum and you morons still wont listen.

                            As for kassius, survivors are never pro-town ever, and they always help scum if scum are winning, because they dont want to be NKed. 99% of the time, town always lynches survivor claims when they're outted for that reason. It's literally basics of playing mafia.

                            As for why Paul should shoot him, it's to clear or convict Paul, while also saying a nice fuck you to Kassius, which I support.

                            Paul says he dies if he shoots town with his first kill, yet he hasnt killed anyone, so one fuck up loses 2 townies. He cannot use his last shot then without gambling, and he said he wouldn't anyway. Well, Kassius is confirmed to not be town, so why not use his last shot on an anti-town role while also clearing himself in the process? Paul would be 100% confirmed by doing it, assuming scum dont choose to not NK. If they do choose that, they essentially just lost the game, because they cant afford to lose 2 straight NKs, let alone to waste an NK on a survivor that will side with them once they have sufficient numbers.

                            Pretending Kassius is anything but a bandwagon lynch is ridiculously bad play Jessup. Stop being dumb. I dont care what result you got unless it says guilty, since there's likely a Godfather.

                            If Paul isnt killed tomorrow, and only one NK goes through, then Paul is confirmed Godfather in my mind. The evidence is fucking obvious. He has a chance to clear himself if he wants it. Maybe he dies and kills Kassius too, but then at least that destroys the GF theory. I'd rather be saved a lynch either way. Kassius should die to help town save a mislynch. Theres 0 reason to leave him alive when killing him only helps town.
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                            • Is it brutal and shitty to sac fly Kassius for the win? Maybe, but fuck him. He's not town. People need to learn hard lessons in mafia. Never claim survivor.
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                              • Well you aren't dying today so we can talk about then. If Paul is legit though he shud maybe take you out too if you are wrong? lol. Also as far as I know Kthx os dying by lynch today. He calimed Executioner/3rd party who had to get Voth to die to win. Then Flips into Jester (which he is now) we gonna let him win his condition as we can't trust him at all being antitown. You support this lynch of kthx right?
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