Abortion debate: who cares?

[Theif of Time]

Agreed, it is extremely situational and cannot be generalised. As it is completely up to the mother (seeing as she does permanent damage and infertility by the abortion) it is a risky business, but then, pregnancy is risky too.
What I do not like is people dictating whether others should have abortions: whether it be religious leaders saying you shouldn't at all, or boyfriends/fathers saying you should.
I remember a news story about a girl in Auckland I think, her boyfriend had found out she was pregnant and freaked. He and his friends found her in a park and beat her in the stomach to force an abortion. Not only is this sick and unjustified assault, he had no right to abort the child. Sure, if he didn't want the kid he could say so, and not being able to afford child support is a good reason not to want a kid, but not like that. Especially not in that way.

[Wil]

Pro choice. Humans have the right to decide weather they think it is right to bring a baby into this harsh harsh world.
Although this choice should be limited to the first 24 weeks of pregnency, other wise its like murdering a born child

[Theif of Time]

I'm not sure about the credibility of this article, but it talks about the distinction between a person and a fetus. It says that a fetus is not conscious and doesn't qualify as a real person until like, 7 months I think. But I still say the sooner the abortion the better... for all parties involved.

[Ilya]

i'd like to abort some of you, let me tell you.

[Volny]

i'd like to abort some of you, let me tell you.

feel free to do it providing that i am no more than aggregation of cells that together arnt larger than few cms. And even cant be distinguished from reptile fetus and also having no advanced neural system.

It looks like its for some ppl very hard to accept fact that we all came from one cell... And if we will start arguing about embryos rights than we should stop eating animals first. Which I absolutely dont intend to do.

[NaiLed]

Pro choice. Humans have the right to decide weather they think it is right to bring a baby into this harsh harsh world.
Although this choice should be limited to the first 24 weeks of pregnency, other wise its like murdering a born child

so it's ok to abort at 23 and a half weeks but not 24?

[Broly]

When the sperm cell immediately attaches itself to a womens egg, the sex, eye color, hair color, etc are all confirmed and decided upon. your basically killing a baby as its growing. Just think of yourself being aborted, what if your mother chose that decision?



this picture was taken of a baby that WAS going to be aborted. Look at it's hand. Tell me that isn't a baby there. This baby was lucky, they decided not to do the abortion but due to difficulties he's slightly paralyzed today, but he still lives.

Seriously, you don't even need to be religious to make the right decision. YOUR killing a human in development, that should be enough to make the decision.

[Wil]

Just think of yourself being aborted, what if your mother chose that decision?

What i beleive is while your still developing in a womens womb, how can anyone know your thoughts. Its like the 'When a tree falls in a forrest, with no one around, does it make a sound'
Of course it does make a sound, but theres nothing to register it, so there for this sound can be thought of to not exist.
If we at our age thing back to when we were unborn and developing in our mothers womb, were we thinking
' Oh fuck she better be using that to vacuum the carpet '

so it's ok to abort at 23 and a half weeks but not 24?

I personally believe the limit should be set on a person by person basis, some babies develop faster than others. But the government would have to set guidelines, like you cant drink alcohol in a pub at 17 and a half, but you can at 18.

[Broly]

I personally believe that you, my friend, are a moron.

[Vykromond]

Just think of yourself being aborted, what if your mother chose that decision?

sentence of the century. what a fucking maroon

[Epinephrine]

The reason why the 24-week arguement is there is because medical science cannot keep a premature baby alive before then as by 24 weeks the lungs still haven't developed and we don't know how to make artificial lungs for premature infants yet.

Either way I'm pro choice for sure, women should have a choice over their own bodies. An unborn baby is just that... unborn.

[Fit of Rage]

the fetus is property of the mother

Because humans are quite obviously property.

Douche.

[Broly]

sentence of the century. what a fucking maroon

thanks vykromond, too bad you couldn't be aborted.

[Mr. Peanuts]

If its born into awful circumstances, put it out of the misery before it happens.

[Arikel]

When the sperm cell immediately attaches itself to a womens egg, the sex, eye color, hair color, etc are all confirmed and decided upon. your basically killing a baby as its growing. Just think of yourself being aborted, what if your mother chose that decision?

..!?! after the sperm cell attaches to a womens egg the most probable thing is that it wont be able to hold itself against the wall's of the utero... either way you are trying to say that life begins just after that attachment!?! just because you get all your dna features decided!? nonsense in my opinion although i respect it.

this picture was taken of a baby that WAS going to be aborted. Look at it's hand. Tell me that isn't a baby there. This baby was lucky, they decided not to do the abortion but due to difficulties he's slightly paralyzed today, but he still lives.

Yes that is true but no one forces you to have an obortion so that argument is of no consequence... if you think you have the possibilities to have a child with a high level of deficiency "tetraplegic or some of those mentally incapacitating deseasses" and if you think that your child deserves to live like that and you and your partner can give that child a proper life then i can't see why you should make an abortion... but not everyone is prepared to give birth to a child on those conditions... why should they burden themselfs and most importantly the child to a harsh existence. There are many other reasons to make an abortion, imagine what it would be for a mother to be forced to raize a child that was born from a forced sexual act... or imagine if the life of the mother was lost during birth because she was forced to have the child that everybody knew that could cause her death! Once again i need to say that only the persons who want will abort, no one is never forced to have an abortion and it is never a decison that we women would take lightly.

Seriously, you don't even need to be religious to make the right decision. YOUR killing a human in development, that should be enough to make the decision.

Well thing again about some of those cases i posted above and tell me if abortion is not a necessary evil sometimes.!?