Wtf is up with Intelligent Design?

[Subjugation]

I keep hearing the media cover these retards, and I'm trying to figure out why anyone would believe this bullshit---it's on the level of Tone's nonsense.

Here's a mission statement from the Intelligent Design Network:

Objectivity results from the use of the scientific method without philosophic or religious assumptions in seeking answers to the question: Where do we come from?

We believe objectivity will lead not only to good origins science, but also to constitutional neutrality in this subjective, historical science that unavoidably impacts religion. We promote the scientific evidence of intelligent design because proper consideration of that evidence is necessary to achieve not only scientific objectivity but also constitutional neutrality.

Ok, the first paragraph is uncontroversial. I agree that using the scientific method leads to objectivity, and a big question in both anthropology and religion is the question "where do we come from?" Ok, I agree.

Second paragraph is when they lay on the obfuscation and bullshit. What are they talking about "constitutional neutrality" for? Science functions completely outside of government, and needs not to be neutral to the constitution. What...does gravity only work because it's respectful to Jesus as well as Agnostics? What about in other countries that don't have constitutions...does science not apply to them because they have no constitution to be objective to? (Unless they are talking about a different definition of "constitutional". Maybe they meant it as a noun, and were talking about going for a neutral walk in the morning... <_< )

And I still can't figure out how you would apply the scientific method to something untestable like the idea that God Created Everything. Science requires testability.

So, what am I missing? Why is anyone paying attention to these retards, and changing laws in order to get it taught in schools?

[Theif of Time]

'Stupid Design' Citing such as examples as the platypus and the amazonian fish that swims up your pee when you pee into a river, swims part way into the penis and extends spines so that it can't be pulled back out. Cringeworthy, for sure.

Much of the supposed "intelligent design", while claiming to be a legitimate theory, is bull, simply because they attempt to fit the facts to the theory. They start off knowing how they will finish, and try to connect the dots. Its endorsed by many smart people, pretending to know things that aren't even in their field of study. Its like an accountant trying to tell an Engineer how a bridge is built. In the end they've polarised people, and people now get stuck into "evolutionist" or "creationist" camps. Creationism isn't the same as Intelligent Design, but most agree that ID is creationism in a false nose and moustache.

[Subjugation]

Ok, so why are some school districts actually enacting some of their recommended policy changes?

[Pressure Drop]

i don't know but i find the whole thing scary.

Seems like some want a return to when religion ruled everything like the spanish inquisition.

In this day and age it is scary that some ppl still have such missguided ideas and that they want to force it to be tuaght in school as fact is crazy.

[DoTheFandango]

bow down

[K2Grey]

Actually, it's worse than Tone's nonsense. His Singularity post was actually decent.

[ZeUs!!]

Whoa there!

[Saturn V]

ID is one of the few things that really, really irritate me (really!). It makes as much sense as Henderson's Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.

[DoTheFandango]

ID is one of the few things that really, really irritate me (really!). It makes as much sense as Henderson's Flying Spaghetti Monsterism.

You're too late.

Try two posts up. -nt-

[Saturn V]

You're too late.

Try two posts up. -nt-

OMGONWED

[Theif of Time]

I recently found a post on a blog that may apply here:
Prisoners of Presupposition
here is a quote from one of the comments, which is funny because its true:

Another intelligent-design possibility, of course, is that we were designed by more advanced aliens. I don't know why ID people don't realize that they're opening the door to that hypothesis as much as to God.

ALL HAIL THE ALIEN OVERLORDS

[Subjugation]

Aliens, exactly.

It might as well be like that episode of Next Gen, when it turns out all the races like Klingons, Humans, and Romulans all shared a common ancestor, and the explanation of their morphology followed the model of Darwinian Evolution.

So, if a Romulan and a Klingon fuck, they can reproduce and create offspring, right? So they're actually the same species. Omg, what the fuck am I talking about? I have just rasied myself to nerd level 7. Christ, I'm pathetic.

Back to the ID stuff, when I think of them trying to explain supernatural phenomena with science, I immediately think of Bill Murray in Ghostbusters, fucking around with some ghost detection instrument, and wiping all the ectoplasmic residue off his balls.

Yo, it's paranormal...and it's science! Just like Intelligent Design!

[DoTheFandango]

Ever listen to Scientology's excuse for a religion?
Let me paraphrase:

Source: http://www.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

75 million years ago, Xenu was the ruler of a Galactic Confederacy which consisted of 26 stars and 76 planets including Earth, which was then known as Teegeeack. The planets were overpopulated, each having on average 178 billion people. The Galactic Confederacy's civilization was comparable to our own, with people "walking around in clothes which looked very remarkably like the clothes they wear this very minute" and using cars, trains and boats looking exactly the same as those "circa 1950, 1960" on Earth.

Xenu was about to be deposed from power, so he devised a plot to eliminate the excess population from his dominions. With the assistance of "renegades", he defeated the populace and the "Loyal Officers", a force for good that was opposed to Xenu. Then, with the assistance of psychiatrists, he summoned billions of people to paralyse them with injections of alcohol and glycol, under the pretense that they were being called for "income tax inspections". The kidnapped populace was loaded into space planes for transport to the site of extermination, the planet of Teegeeack (Earth). The space planes were exact copies of Douglas DC-8s, "except the DC-8 had fans, propellers on it and the space plane didn't." DC-8s have jet engines, not propellers, although Hubbard may have meant the turbine fans.

When the space planes had reached Teegeeack/Earth, the paralysed people were unloaded and stacked around the bases of volcanoes across the planet. Hydrogen bombs were lowered into the volcanoes, and all were detonated simultaneously. Only a few people's physical bodies survived.

The now-disembodied victims' souls, which Hubbard called thetans, were blown into the air by the blast. They were captured by Xenu's forces using an "electronic ribbon" ("which also was a type of standing wave") and sucked into "vacuum zones" around the world. The hundreds of billions of captured thetans were taken to a type of cinema, where they were forced to watch a "three-D, super colossal motion picture" for 36 days. This implanted what Hubbard termed "various misleading data" (collectively termed the R6 implant) into the memories of the hapless thetans, "which has to do with God, the Devil, space opera, etcetera". This included all world religions, with Hubbard specifically attributing Roman Catholicism and the image of the Crucifixion to the influence of Xenu. The interior decoration of "all modern theaters" is also said by Hubbard to be due to an unconscious recollection of Xenu's implants. The two "implant stations" cited by Hubbard were said to have been located on Hawaii and Las Palmas in the Canary Islands.

In addition to implanting new beliefs in the thetans, the images deprived them of their sense of identity. When the thetans left the projection areas, they started to cluster together in groups of a few thousand, having lost the ability to differentiate between each other. Each cluster of thetans gathered into one of the few remaining bodies that survived the explosion. These became what are known as body thetans, which are said to be still clinging to and adversely affecting everyone except those Scientologists who have performed the necessary steps to remove them.

The Loyal Officers finally overthrew Xenu and locked him away in a mountain, where he was imprisoned forever by a force field powered by an eternal battery. (Some have suggested that Xenu is imprisoned on Earth in the Pyrenees, but Hubbard merely refers to "one of these planets" [of the Galactic Confederacy]; he does, however, refer to the Pyrenees as being the site of the last operating "Martian report station", which is probably the source of this particular confusion.[1]) Teegeeack/Earth was subsequently abandoned by the Galactic Confederacy and remains a pariah "prison planet" to this day, although it has suffered repeatedly from incursions by alien "Invader Forces" since then.

[K2Grey]

Oooh, it's dangerous to diss Scientology, they might sue you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sciento...._the_Internet

[Superted]

o.0 I thought our ancestors were phone sanitisers that were kicked off their own planet?