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  • #91
    I don't completely agree that ALL homosexuals choose their sexuality. My fiance attended an all-women's college, Randolph Macon's Woman College. There are many girls there that are less attractive to guys, but still have the same sexual urges. So they adopt homosexual tendencies for their gratification. In fact, many of those 4-year lesbians after college start dating men, some get married and have children with men and live happily. My fiance has never participated or even wanted to, mind you.

    Now I do believe that many people are also born into homosexuality or their surroundings and upbringing encourage it to the extent that the question of nature or nurture is blurred. How does one account for God creating someone that has a sinful tendency from birth? Well, there's nothing really clear in the scriptures, there's only this, or my opinion (and that of a few others). The devil, Satan, or Lucifer does roam the earth today tempting people, he has that power. He forces no one to do anything, only that which they themselves permit. We are all tempted to steal, to lie, to be dishonest. Some are tempted to commit adultery, and some even to murder. These are all characteristics of humans as a result of the fall of Adam and Eve, our first parents. Now I'm not saying that infants are born with sin, they're born clean, for how can an infant sin? What I'm saying is that the devil exploits what he can in the human consciousness for his benefit. He tries to get people to do everything that God doesn't want him to do. Those people that are more easily tempted to commit acts of homosexuality often give in.

    There are christian people who feel homosexual urges, but they shun them. They focus on living a life without that attraction and actually try to change as one has said. But for some it fails. It's just too strong, and many of those, whom I feel are very noble and very strong, live a life with no partner. Because they respect the commandments of God.

    That's a solution, a life of celibacy. I am too naive to really understand what that could be like. I feel that for those people it is extremely difficult, but their blessings will be immense.

    "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal." Matthew 6:19,20
    Last edited by ÆNIMA; 06-14-2006, 08:42 PM.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by ÆNIMA
      I don't completely agree .....etc.
      Well said bro

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      • #93
        Did you even read that?

        At all?
        Originally posted by Jeenyuss
        sometimes i thrust my hips so my flaccid dick slaps my stomach, then my taint, then my stomach, then my taint. i like the sound.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by DoTheFandango
          Did you even read that?

          At all?
          I read every word of it... most of it I read twice... some I read a third time :P

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          • #95
            I read it a couple of times myself, and the second time I wasn't thinking about what Aenima's fiancee's bachlorette party would be like.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by HeavenSent
              It would be identical to straight married couples, just reserve the term 'Married' for straight couples.
              Yeah and we can reserve the term "queered" for fags and "welfared" for black people. Hell, give them their own neighbourhoods and schools, too. There is no reason they should be like us normal people.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by genocidal
                Yeah and we can reserve the term "queered" for fags and "welfared" for black people. Hell, give them their own neighbourhoods and schools, too. There is no reason they should be like us normal people.
                There's a difference between 'normal' and 'natural'.
                It's natural to be gay but it's not normal. Normal would be putting peg-A into hole-B and producing Baby-C.

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                • #98
                  It's not really "NORMAL" to be a hardline asshole either. Should we classify you as less than human?
                  Originally posted by Jeenyuss
                  sometimes i thrust my hips so my flaccid dick slaps my stomach, then my taint, then my stomach, then my taint. i like the sound.

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                  • #99
                    So wait a second, you're actually agreeing with my sarcastic rendition of your beliefs about gays?

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                    • sage
                      Last edited by Richard Creager; 02-27-2007, 12:39 AM.
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                      • 1) This is too much to respond to

                        2) Conc, usually I see your points but you did start this in the other thread with the "so, in that vein, you'd agree..." troll. You seem to be itching for the opportunity to out a hypocrite.

                        3) Genocidal, name calling is pretty weak. I've met Heaven and WPE and they are decent people.

                        4) Please continue on with the nice discussion

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                        • Girls tend to experiment more on the same sex level, mainly because it's looked differently on then when boys do it.

                          It's not best for ALL christians, because I know plently that have no problem with gay people.

                          You say being gay is a choice, but then you say being gay is Natural. If it's natural, how is it a choice. To me, when you say something is natural, sounds like you just have it, it's a nature to you, it's a part of you.
                          Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.

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                          • Originally posted by Galleleo
                            One thing I do not understand. Now correct me if I am wrong, because I ain't a scolar on christianity, but as a christian shouldn't you just let other people live their lives? And not tell them how to live their lives?
                            ABSOLUTELY NOT. If you believe you might be on to something, and in fact if you are convinced of something, why would you live your life quietly and die not having shared it with anyone?

                            This is true not just of Christianity but in most any situation where you have a conviction that something is true. That's what revolutions are made of. That's what fuels progress and change. If what you believe has world changing implications I would hope that you would be compelled to action.

                            Now going back to PETA and the beginning of the whole "discussion"- firebombing buildings is probably not the way to advance animal rights. But if you believe in animal rights and you see an animal harmed cruelly, shouldn't you stop it?

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                            • Being willing to share something that you think is great and that has brought your life joy, is on a whole different level than constructing legislature to force all people to live according to the thing you think is great.

                              You know it too. You can say absolutey not, but Galilleo is right. You should let people live their own lives. You can be there for them to turn to if they need you and talk about the great thing you found, but it's wrong to cram it down their throats.
                              "Sexy" Steve Mijalis-Gilster, IVX

                              Reinstate Me.

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                              • Originally posted by Galleleo
                                You say being gay is a choice, but then you say being gay is Natural. If it's natural, how is it a choice. To me, when you say something is natural, sounds like you just have it, it's a nature to you, it's a part of you.
                                Every time I hear the whole "choice vs. nature" argument, it's from people who are HETEROSEXUAL.

                                Interestingly, I do have friends who are gay and struggle with the question of whether or not it is a "sin." What can I say that would be acceptable to both believers and non-believers? To both conservatives and liberals? On the other hand, who am I (or any of us, for that matter) to point out that homosexuals are more sinful than anyone else? I can only identify homosexuality as being a sin, but I can't judge a person's faith or moral standards based on this one sin - because we're ALL sinners.

                                In order to say that HeavenSent is bigoted and hypocritical, we have to place judgment on his beliefs and moral values. That somehow they are flawed, and there really hasn't been any proof of this other than personal bias. And I can make the claim, beyond a shadow of a doubt on my part, that his beliefs and moral values are more solidly rooted than any athiest or agnostic that I know. So basically, if you're trying to out a hypocrite, I'll have to suggest a better medium than this.
                                TelCat> i am a slut not a hoe
                                TelCat> hoes get paid :(
                                TelCat> i dont

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