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Gran Guerrero, why am I on your sig? I hope this doesn't catch on
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Leaving the full url tips us over the already fine line we're treading.
-SubjLast edited by Subjugation; 01-13-2007, 04:34 AM.
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Honest Question, I'm all open ears
For those who believe in the Big Bang, What was before the Big Bang?
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Simple. Because the word of man has perverted the word of god. Need proof? Watch The 700 Club.Originally posted by Blueblaze View PostHow do you believe in Jesus Christ, God the Father, and the Holy Ghost, yet not take the Bible as for the most part literally? If you can't take the Bible literally, how do you believe that Jesus Christ was really here? Tell me how does one believe in this manner?
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Around the 1500's big changes happened. First printing presses, as opposed to having to hand write everything, brought books to 'common' people. Second, the Church had a big change in direction by finally 'allowing' common people to read their own bibles. Previously, the bible was kept in latin and meant only to be read/translated to 'common' people by chuch officals.Originally posted by HeavenSent View PostThe bible can be read on many levels. The Old & New together makes a complete story. The bible is like an onion skin. You can read it for its surface content, or you can be more ambitious and learn the meaning of the names used in the stories and get another perspective of the situation. Or you can find deeper meanings when you discover the hidden acrostics and their mesages. Or you can study the numbers used and the context they're used in and find a pattern with similar numbers.. then discover the symbolisms of those numbers... then apply those symbolisms with the amount of times a specific word might be used in a story or scene. With that last one, you'd also have to make sure the same word used every time is the same Hebrew or Greek word used. Sometimes the same English word is used for different Hebrew or Greek words. Like the word 'Jew', it could refer to race, religion or residence.
Also, since about 500 BC. The scribes invented a method to insure consistancy with each copy. It's called the Massorah and it's basically a template for the scribes to follow. This is the reason why there's really no deviations from todays text compared to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
At that time my undertsanding was that the Church decided to use many old English (Thee, Thou) type words because they felt it maintained a historical feel to the text.
And of course it was MAN who not only wrote the books of the bible but many decision were made as to which things belonged in it and which things did not.
So given that the bible is clearly a 'human thing', and we all know that humans sin and make lots of mistakes, how can anyone be so sure that we got it right?
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The bible can be read on many levels. The Old & New together makes a complete story. The bible is like an onion skin. You can read it for its surface content, or you can be more ambitious and learn the meaning of the names used in the stories and get another perspective of the situation. Or you can find deeper meanings when you discover the hidden acrostics and their mesages. Or you can study the numbers used and the context they're used in and find a pattern with similar numbers.. then discover the symbolisms of those numbers... then apply those symbolisms with the amount of times a specific word might be used in a story or scene. With that last one, you'd also have to make sure the same word used every time is the same Hebrew or Greek word used. Sometimes the same English word is used for different Hebrew or Greek words. Like the word 'Jew', it could refer to race, religion or residence.Originally posted by D1st0rt View PostWell first of all I pretty much disregard most of the Old Testament. Testament roughly means 'covenant' or 'contract' and since a new one was drawn up I don't see a whole lot of point to the old one since it was mostly just setup anyways. Then you just have to remember that Jesus spoke in parables and the problem of literal interpretation goes away.
Also, since about 500 BC. The scribes invented a method to insure consistancy with each copy. It's called the Massorah and it's basically a template for the scribes to follow. This is the reason why there's really no deviations from todays text compared to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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