Proof the Bible is Garbage?

[Mantra-Slider]

ehehehe might

[MetalHeadz]

People sometimes forget Atheism is a religion in itself, defined as believing in something (not god in this case) and pretending nothing else can be truthful since it cannot be proven.
In some cases there are also extremist Atheists, who, like their religious counterparts, spout their ideology everywhere and do not care about other people's feelings since they are Infidels anyway, who refuse to see the light.

If there's something that infuriates me more than religion, it's this opinion.

Atheism is the disbelief in God, as Sam Harris asserted in a recent lecture, the word 'atheism' shouldn't even exist. There isn't a word for being 'anti-racist' or 'anti-astrological' for example. There is not ideology behind atheism, no codes on how to live and I would directly rebuke your claim that we see opponents to atheism as 'infidels'. No one ever does a bad deed because they are atheist, how many bad deeds are commited because of a peoples particular religious agenda. Atheism should be rebranded as reason or rationalism, we don't claim to be able to proove anything but when we assert scientific reason the liklihoods of religious hypothesis are very, very small.

Fuck you singularity.

[Singularity]

If there's something that infuriates me more than religion, it's this opinion.

Atheism is the disbelief in God, as Sam Harris asserted in a recent lecture, the word 'atheism' shouldn't even exist. There isn't a word for being 'anti-racist' or 'anti-astrological' for example. There is not ideology behind atheism, no codes on how to live and I would directly rebuke your claim that we see opponents to atheism as 'infidels'. No one ever does a bad deed because they are atheist, how many bad deeds are commited because of a peoples particular religious agenda. Atheism should be rebranded as reason or rationalism, we don't claim to be able to proove anything but when we assert scientific reason the liklihoods of religious hypothesis are very, very small.

Fuck you singularity.

lol

[Cops]

MetalHeadz has the same personality as a Christian fundamentalist yet he's too stupid to see it.

[Cops]

Even if I share your common opinion it still upsets smart and intellectual religious people who found something to believe in. I'm not saying you're right or wrong I'm just saying that that type of opinion does nothing but start controversy with the intelligent, fanatics, and anyone who has faith in anything other than what science tells them.

Some of the most intelligent people I know believe in evolution yet they are not foolish enough to forget that if you look at the equation we still don't know what created this earth, this universe or even matter. Why isn't mathematically and scientifically unintelligent to think that something or someone sparked a chain of events that lead to our creation.

Believing in God and Evolution can co-exist in ones interpretation, atheists and religious people alike do nothing but separate the idea that these two ideologies cannot work under one roof.

When it comes to religious debates where intelligence is attacked I will most likely side with religious people regardless if I'm religious or not, I just think some people develop an understanding of evolution and dismiss thought, self understanding or real truth to how things happened and if there's a reason why. My existence is crafted from Billions of years of evolution but what happened before evolution and before man, creature, fish, tad pol or even David Hasselhoff walked this earth?

There's a lot to be discovered and explored and we have barely scrapped the surface. Evolution is an accepted a biological theory on how life has progressed yet we still don't know if there was someone or something that caused a chain of reactions to take place.

I generally ponder these questions from time to time, What created the universe? How do we create matter, something has always had to come from something else, has it not? Do we just exist because consciousness allows us to exist? In the beginning what happened, not just our lives but all life across the many universes? If you believe there's no god because science has disproved scripture than you take scripture for it's literal meanings and you're no different than religious fundamentalists who refuse to believe anything but what their bible tells them. Your so alike that it's almost ironic.

If you're completely closed off from the idea of a 'creator' than you're one minded in my view, we can neither disprove or prove an existence of a 'god' thus the debate and quest for knowledge is still open in my books. God, does not only mean a literal sense of 'god' thus the general opinion that he is 'holier than thou'. I Just try to keep an open mind to the idea of a creator regardless if you look at him as a being like or unlike ourselves or a god to be worshiped.

[jeem]

There is not ideology behind atheism, no codes on how to live and I would directly rebuke your claim that we see opponents to atheism as 'infidels'.

shirt-sleeved ignorance: you always have an ideology, reet. ATHEISM IS THE STORY YOU'VE MADE UP TO EXPLAIN YOUR RELATION TO THE WORLD. what other people have pointed out is that your strict adherence to this story is not unlike heavensent's strict adherence to his story. idiot.

[Cops]

shirt-sleeved ignorance: you always have an ideology, reet. ATHEISM IS THE STORY YOU'VE MADE UP TO EXPLAIN YOUR RELATION TO THE WORLD. what other people have pointed out is that your strict adherence to this story is not unlike heavensent's strict adherence to his story. idiot.

check mate.

[Kolar]

There's a lot to be discovered and explored and we have barely scrapped the surface. Evolution is an accepted a biological theory on how life has progressed yet we still don't know if there was someone or something that caused a chain of reactions to take place.

Evolution explains how life on our planet has evolved from very small and very simple life forms into the large and complex life we see today. It doesn't deal with the creation of the universe or of how the basic materials for life came to exist in our solar system. Science is only limited by our observable knowledge and comprehension of the universe. It makes no claims to solve everything, and it can NEVER take the position either agnostic or theistic concerning the nature or origins of the universe or any other observable phenomenon because it is antithetical to science. Basically it can set out to explain things in our world but it can not prove God(s) involvement or any supernatural entity for that matter having a hand in it.

MetalHeadz can believe in whatever he wants. Whether he's trying to convince people or not (and why not? it's a forum...) he's not winning anyone over with his attitude and only serves as a divisive agent in this kind of environment and discussion. He is right that Atheism is not a religion, being that there is no common set of beliefs, no ritual observances, no set concrete moral code to live by (though many groups such as humanist believe in a universal right and wrong so this is not always the case) and no mythology. We all have our own ethics, social views and political leanings so in that sense we all have our own personal ideology that guides us through life. If you quantify an ideology to that level then again there's no common set of ethics, morals or social views within Atheism as oppose to Christianity, Islam or Judaism.

[Cops]

I'll get around to reading that thing you wanted me to read. Metalheadz has a narrow view point and I fully believe that since Evolution disproves the literal content of scripture that in his mind it also disproves the existence of god.

I tried to explain to you the psyche of a person like MetalHeadz or even religious fundamentalists who take everything for their literal translation and once things have been proven and disproved they guard themselves off from bigger questions and bigger answers.

Cognitive Dissonance is a theory by Leon Festinger (1957) that is concerned with the relationships among cognitions. According to cognitive dissonance theory, there is a tendency for individuals to seek consistency among their cognitions (i.e., beliefs, opinions). When there is an inconsistency between attitudes or behaviors (dissonance), something must change to eliminate the dissonance. In the case of a discrepancy between attitudes and behavior, it is most likely that the attitude will change to accommodate the behavior.(http://www.istheory.yorku.ca/cogniti...ancetheory.htm)

An example I created;

------- / ::::::::::::


------ represents a person's literal believe in religious scripture

:::::::: represents evolution and the theory of how humans were created

/ represents a clash in the person's believes or opinions

[Mythrandir]

Cops you may have misunderstood the theory cognitive dissonance. It is not something that overcomes 'other people'. It describes Metalheadz's psyche as much as it describes yours or mine. Metalheadz's opinions causes cognitive dissonance to trigger within you as much as your opinions trigger his.

[HeavenSent]

In a world where everyone is blind,
the man with one eye is king.

[Zerzera]

In a world where everyone is blind,
the man with one eye is king.

Not according to Nick Parker!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZKm0YeKAq9E

If it's a working eye.. and the world isn't dark.. and taking that sight is the most 'advanced' sense in that world.

[HeavenSent]

Not according to Nick Parker!! http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZKm0YeKAq9E

If it's a working eye.. and the world isn't dark.. and taking that sight is the most 'advanced' sense in that world.

You missed the 'conditional statement' that it's FEAR that makes one blind.
A blind person that has no fear isn't truly blind.

[MetalHeadz]

shirt-sleeved ignorance: you always have an ideology, reet. ATHEISM IS THE STORY YOU'VE MADE UP TO EXPLAIN YOUR RELATION TO THE WORLD. what other people have pointed out is that your strict adherence to this story is not unlike heavensent's strict adherence to his story. idiot.

Atheism has no political or moral agendas spouting from it's postulation of the unliklihood of an ultimate, divine creator.

[Zerzera]

You missed the 'conditional statement' that it's FEAR that makes one blind.
A blind person that has no fear isn't truly blind.

I was only kidding, but if you insist. Didn't you just mean to say;

In the land of cowards, the brave is king.