Obama has done a terrible job so far.

[Squeezer]

disorder's a faggot too amirite? (looks like "armtie" amirite?)

[disorder]

Ur a faggot Squeezer, cuz that's MY ASS

[Squeezer]

Ur a faggot Squeezer, cuz that's MY ASS

butfuckme with your posts

[saetep]

Hmmm... no one brought up the nice idea of bailing out GM without doing anything about one of the sources of the problem. Unions. The unions make you pay your workers too much? Oh well you fire them. Oh wait you mean they'll all go on strike if I lay off even one worker? Ok I'll open up a plant in a non-unionized state. Oh wait they're going on strike again. Hmmm so lets see, I'm paying my workers more than I can manage, I can't do anything about the workers. So what are my options a) charge more for my automobiles so that people don't want to buy them and they're no longer competitive or b) make them worse than my competitors but claim that they're the same. You know, like missing a bolt or screw here, worse engines, parts that break, who knows, we'll find something to leave out.

Now to make things worse Obama is passing a climate change bill with cap and trade and whole bunch of other goodies that will make automobile companies even less profitable. Yay Obama, good job buying GM.

I'm not bashing his decision to save GM. I'm bashing his decision to lay in bed with unions. Democrats lay in bed with unions, Republicans lay in bed with the companies that unions strangle hold. It's just the nature of two parties.

[D1st0rt]

A leading power company has claimed wind energy is so unreliable that even if 13,000 turbines are built to meet EU renewable energy targets, they could be relied on to provide only 7 per cent of the country’s peak winter electricity demand.

Don't even get me started on wind power, it is seriously the worst possible source of energy to be throwing money at, even worse than ethanol. The only remotely worthwhile use for wind power is electrolysis to split water for fuel cells, and it's still a terrible idea.

Just because something isn't cheap doesn't mean that it's not worth doing.

I didn't say it wasn't worthwhile under the right circumstances. Our economy is already hobbling on one leg, if you want to break the other one there had better be direct tangible benefits that come out of it. All I see this doing is raising everyone's cost of living. The large polluters are still going to pollute, they are just going to pass down their additional expenses. Also, the financial sector is going to have a field day with credits which is not something I am particularly pleased about.

I see where you're coming from as well, there's a middle ground somewhere between pragmatism and idealism that needs to be sorted out. I would be all for an alternative that wasn't so damaging.

I have no sympathy for the UAW.

[saetep]

Nuclear power is the way to go. But environmentalists will never let it happen even though 30% (I forget how much) of Europe is already powered by nuclear reactors. Other sources of energy are either not cost effective or aren't readily available in enough locations to be practical yet.

[Fit of Rage]

butfuckme with your posts

Post of the week.

[PUNK rock]

Don't even get me started on wind power, it is seriously the worst possible source of energy to be throwing money at, even worse than ethanol.

For real! When I tried to be eco-friendly in Sim City and use wind power it took a crap load of those stupid towers to do what 1 nuclear plant could.

[Acidmouse]

Obama has done nothing, hes acted like a huge pussy in front of the other nations, and instead of respecting the US more they just think we are dumbasses and pussies now. Unemployment is up, the stock market is about to crash unless we do what Biden wants and toss another trillion dollars into it like fucking morons, like that will work this time. Seriously, how could any single one of you Obama supporters honestly tell me that you approve of what he has done since getting into office, or honestly tell me that things have gotten better. Is this the change you wanted or expected.

lol just lol. You must have the brains of a nat. gg.

Zero point explaining anything to mudpond life like you who cant distinguish between what happening.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Don't even get me started on wind power, it is seriously the worst possible source of energy to be throwing money at, even worse than ethanol. The only remotely worthwhile use for wind power is electrolysis to split water for fuel cells, and it's still a terrible idea.

I'm genuinely curious as to why you think it's a terrible idea. What's so "damaging" to you?

[Xog]

Zero point explaining anything to mudpond life like you who cant distinguish between what happening.

Elephant of the forgotten comfy chair, moon stranger coffee mug monkeywrench. Carburator? The Xylophone?

[Da1andonly]

Why does there always seem to be either one of two possibilities when discussing recycling, either the pro's or the anti's. I have several friends like this IRL, who can't just go in-between. It's either do or don't!

I am no saint when it comes to recycling, but I always turn off not-needed lights in my apartment, I do recycle a few things like glass and cans, I take my bottles to the store...when I on the other hand don't use a separate "eco" trashbin for used food (this is only due to the fact that my kitchen is too small to even fit one), I take way too long showers with too hot water, my room temperature is always a few degrees over the normal, and I know myself I buy too much stuff that I really don't need and end up throwing away.

I just keep thinking, if everyone would or could actually do this, then we would atleast be trying to do something for mother nature. We still have our luxuries, but it surely as fuck can't hurt to give a little back.

(doing this does not give advantage to other countries taxing-wise)


PS. interesting thread, keep it going.

[Xog]

Why does there always seem to be either one of two possibilities when discussing recycling, either the pro's or the anti's. I have several friends like this IRL, who can't just go in-between. It's either do or don't!

I am no saint when it comes to recycling, but I always turn off not-needed lights in my apartment, I do recycle a few things like glass and cans, I take my bottles to the store...when I on the other hand don't use a separate "eco" trashbin for used food (this is only due to the fact that my kitchen is too small to even fit one), I take way too long showers with too hot water, my room temperature is always a few degrees over the normal, and I know myself I buy too much stuff that I really don't need and end up throwing away.

I just keep thinking, if everyone would or could actually do this, then we would atleast be trying to do something for mother nature. We still have our luxuries, but it surely as fuck can't hurt to give a little back.

(doing this does not give advantage to other countries taxing-wise)


PS. interesting thread, keep it going.

funfact i read on the elevator today:
over 100 billion plastic bags are made each year in the united states. only 0.06% of them are recycled.

[kthx]

lol just lol. You must have the brains of a nat. gg.

Zero point explaining anything to mudpond life like you who cant distinguish between what happening.

I think he means brains of a gnat btw.

[Ilya]

girls like it when you tell them you recycle