Restrict weasels

[PH]

I already stated the difference between Levis and Weasels that will keep a Weasel-free pub from being created. Levis cannot be used as viable basing ships. Weasels, while useless and lame otherwise, can be a legitimate threat in base when in the proper hands (i.e. junin, Dameon). So lobby all you like, and I do wish you luck with it because I somewhat agree with your view, but I just don't see it happening.

[colony]

well thanks for the mature post. It was just a request from staff. Id like to see it implemented. If it doesnt work out, im fine with that.

[404 Not Found]

Weasels create more Jav's in a pure pub

So the debate over the weasels in Pure Pub can go on and on....

One thing I notice is that the amount of Jav's have increased due to the x-radar on a Jav.

So when the Pure Pub arena gets filled with the freq. trying to take the flag using multiple Weasles, I have noticed the defending freq. goes Jav mad. I personally have no problem with weasels, but I do have a prob with the amount of Jav TK's all due to them trying to kill the Weasel while using there X-Radar.

Perhaps if the WB had X-Radar or the Spider, there would be less TK's and less complaining of the Weasel in a Pure Pub?

I also do not understand why the Weasel can use X-Radar and not have it effect there energy levels as it does the Jav? Maybe if it didn't effect the Jav's energy levels when used, it would lower the amount of TK's?

All I know is that I have no prob with the Weasels in Pure Pub, but perhaps the X-Radar should not be available to the Weasels as is by not effecting there energy levels or give a WB or Spider X-Radar so everyone doesn't jump in a Jav go bomb crazy!

Just an idea!

[PH]

Excellent point, 404, but not much can be done about inexperienced Javs. If they don't know the proper trajectories and timing of their shots, they're going to TK, and even without the energy drain for X-Radar usage I think they'd still be just as reckless. There's also one other point that a lot of Javs don't seem to understand: when there's one Weasel and four teammates chasing it down, they try to bomb it and wipe out their team. Your ass bullets are there for a reason. Use them.

And personally I don't think Weasels having X-Radar has much of an impact on the game. If anything, it makes the ship a bit more fun to play.

I do disagree wholeheartedly with you on one thing, though: PLEASE don't give any more ships X-Radar. It would render the Weasel absolutely useless. IMHO, the balance of power between ships is close to perfection as it is. If you know your ship's strengths and weaknesses, you'll be fine.

Lastly, I don't know if Cook meant for his first post to sound the way it does, but after re-reading it I'm beginning to wonder if at least one pure pub should be enforced, say, the way baseelim is. If you stick around in spawn too long, you get specced. I think it would cut down on a lot of the complaints about spawning, straying, "laming", etc. If that's at all possible, perhaps it should be looked into?

[The Metroid]

I agree with Pure about weasels having x-radar, if you don't like getting killed by them be one and have a duel with it.

[404 Not Found]

As I had mentioned. I have no problem with the Weasel, but more of a prob with the idiot Jav's that TK.

On a different note: The pure basing arena that would spec you is an interesting idea and would get rid of much of the duelers and spawnkillers lurking below.

If a weasel pisses one off enough to bitch about the situation, perhaps as you have mentioned previously....get in a weasel yourself and have a go at it and have a weasel duel!

I am just annoyed with the amount of Jav TK'ers than I could ever be with a weasel

Just wanted to clarify!

[Shas'la T'au Kais]

Ban javs because they keep killing me.

[Blindmonkey21]

I think you should give levis X Radar (it is not like they can do anything anyway) There is nothing worse than having 16-19 bnty and have a noob ass weasel come up from behind you cloaked and you have absolutely no chance in moving away from them. Just a suggestion......

[Troll King]

I know something worse: fighting past the other team and controlling the flag room and then having a blind levi shot blowing you away. It's all relative.

[SpiderMage]

This is all getting just so old. <_<

[404 Not Found]

I though that the subject matter here was in regards to the Weasel in "Pure Pub" settings? Levis are not in Public 0

[Jones]

I got killed by a wb once when I had 6-0 in pub.

[za gophar]

it's so horrible that you can have 300 bounty and get killed by something you cannot see. seriously, it severly undermines the quality of this zone that someone who displays great skill can be killed with no skill at all. it doesnt take skill to cloak people, it just doesnt. how can it take skill when they cant even defend themselves against it.

i dont see how people can make comments like "have a good terr" when who your terr is isnt under your control.

[Ezor]

It's pub, gophar. Skill is overrated in pub. And it takes a total cockmonger to X someone in that fashion anyway, so what's the big debate for?

[za gophar]

any weasel would do it