Distension discussion

[kthx]

This is all planned man no fucking time to play this is retarted i swear tw will die cuz of this

TW has been running for a very long time before distension came out, and it will continue to run for a long time after distension players get bored with it, people need to stop being so melodramatic about this.

[kthx]

I agree that these times aren't going to work really well, but before everyone has a huge fit let us try it for a week or so before going off the deep end and threatening a distension player TW strike or something.

If we host this event too much, just like any other event in TW, the popularity is going to fall greatly. Please keep these things in mind before you start freaking out.

1. It wasn't a minority, there are a lot of people who dislike the event but just don't scream about it as loudly.

2. If we over host it, it goes away quicker, if you guys truly like this event, you will realize that it needs time restrictions to keep it as an event that lasts longer, too much of anything isn't good.

3. We need to have breaks in this event to make sure that ER's have a time to host, people are being oblivious to the fact that there are people out there that don't like distension but instead like hosted events. We have some newer ER's that need experience hosting and this being hosted so much severely cut down on the learning that can be done with hosting, especially with large audiences.

4. We need time to play TWD, when tons of people are playing distension, TWD suffers and that makes for less competitive TWL matches during the weekend.

5. This can't be an event that is a dominating factor in this game, mainly because the ship settings are so different. If someone new starts the game and play this for three months, get bored with it and goes back to a pub they will have learned nothing about the zone.

[TagMor]

This schedule works for me, but is still absolute bullshit.
Funny how the majority (who want to play distension) are fucked over by a small minority who think they can manipulate peoples interest to suit their own desires.
Give us Distension 24/7. The hysteria will die down, and Distension will find a comfortable niche inbetween ?go base and wbduel.
Try screw with us, and watch how quickly your little plan does serious, if not irreparable damage to the zone.

[dako]

Sigh.

I live on the east coast. I have class from 5-6:30 MWF. I sleep from midnight to 7, at which i get up for a french class.

In other words, all of us in EST time with actual lives are getting screwed over because people are crying that distension steals players from ?go zombies.

I doubt I will be playing distension much, if at all, anymore.

[Mjollnir]

(MessageBot)>2008 Dec 6 2:40AM (distension) H.M.S. Stargazer: 5-7pm EST and 1am-10am EST Mon-Fri. This is the FINAL schedule change decided by Pure_Luck and Qan. Thanks!

This is, frankly, a horrible schedule, and I hope everyone agrees with me.

Agreed. Hosting most of it during low population hours when most people are sleeping or at work isn't cool. If the poll you held at 6 AM euro time that had a lot of Distension haters and random pubbers voting had an impact on the schedule, I am not happy. I also don't like the fact that a handful of loud mouthed retards have such an impact on decisions concerning the future of Distension and the zone.

The idea about hosting it most of the time or even 24/7 and limiting individual players' playtime is the way to go here. That is the only way you get people to play other events and still be satisfied with the amount of Distension they get to play. Hosting should not be limited to week days either. I personally don't play anything else in TW than Distension because of the resolution cap of the other arenas. It is also the only event that sparks any interest in some of the older players like myself.

Don't limit it because of loud forum trolls and people who haven't even tried the game. Like said in other threads: Distension needs to coexist with Trench Wars and trying to take Distension away will just make people angry. If Distension became a permanent arena, it would take up only 36 players at all times, while the rest of them are playing other events. This is all possible after the remote queue gets implemented.

[Soja]

(MessageBot)>2008 Dec 6 2:40AM (distension) H.M.S. Stargazer: 5-7pm EST and 1am-10am EST Mon-Fri. This is the FINAL schedule change decided by Pure_Luck and Qan. Thanks!

This is, frankly, a horrible schedule, and I hope everyone agrees with me.

This is all planned man no fucking time to play this is retarted i swear tw will die cuz of this

[roxxkatt]

The levi multifire is really quite useless.

thats what i said in beta.
qan justified the long delay and crap multi by making it FREE TO FIRE

[Stabwound]

(MessageBot)>2008 Dec 6 2:40AM (distension) H.M.S. Stargazer: 5-7pm EST and 1am-10am EST Mon-Fri. This is the FINAL schedule change decided by Pure_Luck and Qan. Thanks!

This is, frankly, a horrible schedule, and I hope everyone agrees with me.

[meddi]

Since I'm 1 of only 2 people that even have the option for this ability in the levi, and the other doesn't post on the forums, I thought I would bring this to light.

The levi multifire is really quite useless. It is only pixels bigger than the regular shot (if that) and the fire delay is rediculously long. To put it in other terms, I can use my regular shot, with a 2 second fire delay, or use multi with a 6 second fire delay, even though the spread isnt actually any bigger. I would suggest this be nerfed (the spread and delay) or simply removed from the list of available upgrades...Or we can just wait until more levis reach level 30 and see if anybody else complains....

Thats my 2 cents.

It has its uses when you get L3 bullets, and bombs. Trust me.

[Mjollnir]

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The claim that warbird bullets go straight through repels did not withstand scrutiny in that discussion.
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Your points in the discussion just weren't worth answering to. That doesn't mean you won the "argument".

I understand you not wanting people to wait to long as this would cause undue wait for the other people... but we are trying to get the rest of TW (non-distension players) to think that distension will not kill the rest of the zone. if you're just a player in an event then you can leave... but what about if you are the starting zombie? captaining in ?go base? in a twd match... it would mean that you would lose your spot and would have to start over.
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Leaving while being a starting zombie isn't a big problem for the event. If you leave while captaining in ?go base, you can be sure you won't get picked as a captain again. If you leave while in a twd match you will get axed from the squad. There is only a limited time period, between the rounds, when players can enter Distension. The queue must go smoothly so that all the empty spots are filled in time.

[2kill]

Since I'm 1 of only 2 people that even have the option for this ability in the levi, and the other doesn't post on the forums, I thought I would bring this to light.

The levi multifire is really quite useless. It is only pixels bigger than the regular shot (if that) and the fire delay is rediculously long. To put it in other terms, I can use my regular shot, with a 2 second fire delay, or use multi with a 6 second fire delay, even though the spread isnt actually any bigger. I would suggest this be nerfed (the spread and delay) or simply removed from the list of available upgrades...Or we can just wait until more levis reach level 30 and see if anybody else complains....

Thats my 2 cents.

now this was done for a reason... have you looked at the energy requirements? my brother had his lev by level 40ish he could tank a blue shot and fire a multifire blue. you just have to learn when you want the REALLY low energy cost of the multi. to be frank its a skill thing like the lanc bomb... totally useless unless you know how to use it. try it out in game and see if you can find spots where the tank value is worth the wait

2kill

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I have not been one to complain about weasels but I have come to see it being a problem. Weasels should not be able to spam bullets as fast as they do. Slow the rate of fire down please. I use 3 portals trying to avoid a weasel and he evades and uses a portal himself to get away from me and still spams 2 more shots at me, ridiculous. Change it.;

^^ this I don't like to say ships should be nerfed cause it is almost always bias to what you play but as peace says they are spaming yellows like a spider but their smaller with a port and rockets... something not right there

I have not been one to complain about weasels but I have come to see it being a problem. Weasels should not be able to spam bullets as fast as they do. Slow the rate of fire down please. I use 3 portals trying to avoid a weasel and he evades and uses a portal himself to get away from me and still spams 2 more shots at me, ridiculous. Change it.;

I agree with P_M. Its insane to have a wzl cloaked, sneak into FR, shoot 3 bullets, warp away, rocket, eat 2 bullets, and shoot 3 more before he dies....and he's not even at level 40 yet. How much more ridiculous is it going to get?

[Peace_Maker]

I have not been one to complain about weasels but I have come to see it being a problem. Weasels should not be able to spam bullets as fast as they do. Slow the rate of fire down please. I use 3 portals trying to avoid a weasel and he evades and uses a portal himself to get away from me and still spams 2 more shots at me, ridiculous. Change it.;

Levi Multifire

Since I'm 1 of only 2 people that even have the option for this ability in the levi, and the other doesn't post on the forums, I thought I would bring this to light.

The levi multifire is really quite useless. It is only pixels bigger than the regular shot (if that) and the fire delay is rediculously long. To put it in other terms, I can use my regular shot, with a 2 second fire delay, or use multi with a 6 second fire delay, even though the spread isnt actually any bigger. I would suggest this be nerfed (the spread and delay) or simply removed from the list of available upgrades...Or we can just wait until more levis reach level 30 and see if anybody else complains....

Thats my 2 cents.

[DankNuggets]

I understand you not wanting people to wait to long as this would cause undue wait for the other people... but we are trying to get the rest of TW (non-distension players) to think that distension will not kill the rest of the zone. if you're just a player in an event then you can leave... but what about if you are the starting zombie? captaining in ?go base? in a twd match... it would mean that you would lose your spot and would have to start over.

ways to fix this would be

• increase the !claim time (which is what I said)

• have a way to get in the queue from a different arena (would allow a person in a basing match when he misses his spot to restart his countdown so when he is done he wouldn't have to wait as long)

• after a person does !claim his total time played increases 1 minute for every 3 minutes he is not there (ratio doesn't matter to me) it should be more then a 1 to 1 ratio cause that would be kind of telling people to rush or leave the basing match (or whatever) cause you are watching your time go out the window

anyway cya in supspace
2kill

I think another way to fix it would be:

If you missed your !claim window, or didn't take it so you could finish an event or match, you should bumped to #2, not put at the end of the line. Make it so that you have to re-enter the queue, but you're put at the head of the line instead of the back. If you've been waiting long enough to earn a !claim, then you should't have to wait double the time of the next guy just because you were afk for 30 seconds.

This might be addressed already if the queue is done 100% off the day's previous playing time. If you were next in line, and missed it, you'd still be next in line unless someone who wasn't previously in the queue entered it that had less playing time.