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  • #46
    - yeh i just edited that and u replied in the mean time

    yes that effected me as i saw what it did to them, and it could quite have easily been a local who decided they want to joy ride. I guess incidents like that fuel hate due to the minority misbehaving, which is the major problem.
    King Baba> You scare me with your online wisdom.

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    • #47
      yea, i agree with you on that part, at least. it's usually the selfish minority that fucks it up for everyone. and i have no clue what life is like in the UK, and i don't pretend to, but it's an important social problem here also.

      here, immigrants aren't really leeches, however, i'm sure that's up for debate by many people. the way i see it, they take the jobs nobody wants, work in dangerous conditions with few benefits, and help control prices on things many people don't even realize, like buying groceries or buying a home, which in turn helps the economy.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by sexy wooden spoon
        ok i have been thinking about this.

        My beef is not with those who
        1) just want to movw country
        2) refugees who are running from war
        3) people who are willing 2 work

        That kinda alienates 99% of immigrants....


        what i dont like is people who come just because they can recieve benefits.

        If your an illegal imigrant its kinda hard to recieve welfare beneifts without the govt knowing that your an illegal immigrant unless you somehow fall through a loophole unlikey though.


        Now i think my problem lies with my goverment, why spend all this money oon houses an accomodation (for those who are not willing to work*) when this money could be spent on general programs such as nhs or even mayb getting willing workers into productive jobs.

        I dont think the govt does spend money for houses for illegal immigrants they probably only provide the basics if the migrants are in serious trouble and then probably get deported. But i find it hard why a migrant would travel on a pretty shabby boat or cramed in a car to get out of poverty and then decide not to work , problem is those who smuggle in these illegal migrants actually use them as ridiculously cheap labour thus not getting out of thier poverty trap.

        But i guess there is no answer. If some1 turns up in yoyr country and will not work, what do u do? Can u send them anywhere? - no. Other countries dont want them.

        Yes you can send them away if they are an illegal immigrant, Aust govt did this a couple of months ago to a boat of people.

        Does any1 have any suggestions with what cud be done? We could give them jobs, but then people would complain about unfair recruiting.

        You cant just give them jobs if they arent enough jobs already.... the only solution is to enforce stricter migrant laws, i know USA is built on immigration but too many people entering the country at one time is devasting for the economy.

        I guess as i was focusing on those that did not work - yesterday seemed like one for the good guys. But yes i understand i did come accorss as a bit of a twat, but are there any solutions to stop the leeches?

        Yes, ensure that the standard of living rises in the other parts of the world- thats why USA should play a role in other countries creating democracy, providing aid to other countries will lead to increase living standards in these countries and benefit the whole world, thats why USA should play a role in world affairs!

        genuine workers arew not the problem. If they are willing to work, would they not be able to get a visa of some sort for a tempoary working basis?
        Heres another problem with illegal migrants, they push back the availability for legal migrants to come....

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Troll King
          I jumped down your throat because you argued in support for BZ for the wrong reasons.
          Sorry, sir.

          I just thought you sounded ridiculously haughty for someone that considers himself the voice of truth and reason and fairness.
          Last edited by Facetious; 04-16-2004, 04:01 AM.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by DoCk>
            Before the smile gets too wide don't forget illegal immigrants are just people desperate for a better life..
            Dock if your in England you would know how we feel, meanwhile, they are getting more help/money from the goverment than a English single mom is, and we are paying taxes to supply the immigrants for accomodation/hospital fees/transport, I don't give a flying fuck about them! i mean, i live in Leicester wich is supposed to be a multi cultural city, pbbbt! where ever you turn now, an Assylum seeker! they dont even give a toss about you, they walk straight into you..
            If we are going to treat them equally then give us our fucking money back..
            sorry if i were racist..

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Mobey
              Dock if your in England you would know how we feel, meanwhile, they are getting more help/money from the goverment than a English single mom is, and we are paying taxes to supply the immigrants for accomodation/hospital fees/transport, I don't give a flying fuck about them! i mean, i live in Leicester wich is supposed to be a multi cultural city, pbbbt! where ever you turn now, an Assylum seeker! they dont even give a toss about you, they walk straight into you..
              If we are going to treat them equally then give us our fucking money back..
              sorry if i were racist..
              Ummm how excatly does the govt provide help towards illegal migrants are you talking about the detention centers where they hold em up inorder to be transported out or what? because i doubt they recieve UE benefits.........

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              • #52
                Some of them claim assylum/escape from authorities, then thats when they start to claim benefits etc.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Mobey
                  Some of them claim assylum/escape from authorities, then thats when they start to claim benefits etc.
                  You still have to give personal details inorder to claim these benefits.....

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                  • #54
                    enforcer, as hard as it is 2 beleive yes the goverment gives them houses. I have even heard of a case where local assylem seeker children are having payed golf lessons to keep them entertained. gg goverment.

                    If it goes on, the BNP ( british national party) will get a bit of power. They are basically skin heads who hate every, and that really would be the worst possible outcome.

                    Localy near me, they built a 15 million pound immigration centre, with houses,haridressers,and gyms for them 2 stay in. You know what happened, they burnt it down. Hey it looked really nice, i would have moved in there!
                    King Baba> You scare me with your online wisdom.

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                    • #55
                      I don't have anything against imigrants, i'm not a racist but ya gotta come look in Belgium it's such a small country, and I you ask people whois afraid ofimmigrants 3 ot the 5 will say they are affraid of them

                      Whe have many black people in Belgium not much chinese and Japanese people mostley black, but they al gather in groups and they steal stuff and make people afraid and stuff, i'm notsaying all of them are like that, There are many friendly black people to. I think they're cool, but i really HATE those black people who come to belgium because they can get a house andtehy can get work and then go vandalise other houses,cars, begin to steal etc. I really hate those people.

                      -Sorry for my grammatica, i live in belgium so I don't speak english that good
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by sexy wooden spoon
                        enforcer, as hard as it is 2 beleive yes the goverment gives them houses. I have even heard of a case where local assylem seeker children are having payed golf lessons to keep them entertained. gg goverment.

                        If it goes on, the BNP ( british national party) will get a bit of power. They are basically skin heads who hate every, and that really would be the worst possible outcome.

                        Localy near me, they built a 15 million pound immigration centre, with houses,haridressers,and gyms for them 2 stay in. You know what happened, they burnt it down. Hey it looked really nice, i would have moved in there!
                        BNP are cool
                        woot!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by sexy wooden spoon
                          enforcer, as hard as it is 2 beleive yes the goverment gives them houses. I have even heard of a case where local assylem seeker children are having payed golf lessons to keep them entertained. gg goverment.

                          Localy near me, they built a 15 million pound immigration centre, with houses,haridressers,and gyms for them 2 stay in. You know what happened, they burnt it down. Hey it looked really nice, i would have moved in there!
                          It may seem on the surface that it looks all fine and dandy but based on a similar case here it took a whole demonstration of all the migrants to bring out the truth of the living conditions in those places, they were really quite bad and the guards there were quite harsh on the migrants too.

                          If they burnt it down there obviously is more to the story....

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Mobey
                            Dock if your in England you would know how we feel, meanwhile, they are getting more help/money from the goverment than a English single mom is, and we are paying taxes to supply the immigrants for accomodation/hospital fees/transport, I don't give a flying fuck about them! i mean, i live in Leicester wich is supposed to be a multi cultural city, pbbbt! where ever you turn now, an Assylum seeker! they dont even give a toss about you, they walk straight into you..
                            If we are going to treat them equally then give us our fucking money back..
                            sorry if i were racist..
                            hey, not everyone shares your opinion - who's we?, I have no problems with any immigrants. I suppose I'm better off as I live up north and the immigrants cant usually be arsed moving all the way up here, thats why minorities are scarce here. Unless you go to manchester or any of those places. Still, you are looking at the immigrants as lazy, ignorant people who arent willing to work whilst at least 90% of the immigrants in the UK are working and playing a part in society.

                            I say we kick out the 10% who arent working and are the stereotype of how people view them.

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                            • #59
                              None of them are working, they are either working illegal jobs or working for crap pay, under waged.
                              What i mean by 'we' me and sws and anyone else who agrees with us.
                              We work to pay taxes.. they dont have to cos our taxes and pay go to them.

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                              • #60
                                peanuts you are right about the north. When i lived in newcastle i did not encounter this. But in midlands its quite bad. Mobey lol, the bnp is not good, they hate every1 : /
                                King Baba> You scare me with your online wisdom.

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