Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[Jessup]

Dunno why he did that.. he said he watched willby visit you. willby never denied it, then role claim right after and told the truth.. so unless I'm missing something it seems legit. I had my suspicions too which is why I investigated beast night 1 and he came back innocent and voted with us so to me he is confirmed.

[Exalt]

Pms were allowed for town back when we started on tw mafia way back when I started this game and

u know this. Also I didn't reveal anything about my role and refrained to do it again after the stink

. It did used to be TW forums thing tho allowing them. Scum could do it too to players so it isn't a one-sided thing. Ixt said to not flaunt it. I had ZERO intention of PMing at all until I saw him say that.. I refrained after the stink made too and every1 saw what I pmed wasn't really that big a deal gamewise.. it was quickly exposed and made public knowledge which basically wiped off any secretive aspect to what was done. You've been pretty worthless this game for town so far anyways from my point of view. Take a chill pill exalt.. If you cared so much you would have played this game with as much gusto as you are with your other game.

PMs were disallowed because PMing back in the day ruined every single game ever played. That's what killed TW Mafia originally. I won't play fucked up games like that in the future if people go back to PMing each other. I'll just quit instead.

Also, here's my thoughts:

Paul looks like he's full of shit. He really does. That no kill N2 or whatever it was doesn't make sense otherwise. Scum and him all conveniently shoot the same targets every single night phase? Sounds like he's the mafia goon sent to kill and cover his tracks if 'beast' ever actually pretends he got a result one of these days.

I still don't believe vehicles' claim, and actually, if you really are a sheriff Jessup, and if you truly believe Beast is a tracker/watcher/whatever thing, then why do you actually believe in 3 investigative roles? I've never, ever seen a game with 3 of them. It makes zero sense in a balancing perspective. I call bullshit.

I don't know about a 4 BP survivor either, because that also makes no sense balance wise. What the fuck is the point of a survivor being in a game if they can't die? Mine as well claim Day 1 and do nothing the rest of the game at that point. Kassius' role is to basically be useless all game and win by default, since nobody can kill him?

What the fuck is PF's claim btw? Has he given one?


Also, since I'm apparently the last non full-claim besides PF?

I'm the town 2-shot trapper.

At night, I'm allowed to build a trap. The next night, I can place it on myself or anyone else. If that person with the trap is attacked by anyone, the attacker dies. If it's not an attack, the trap just reveals all the roles that visited that person, but doesn't give names. I'm only allowed to build and use 1 trap at a time.

I built the trap Night 1.

I put the trap on myself Night 2.

It hasn't been triggered yet.

[Exalt]

Dunno why he did that.. he said he watched willby visit you. willby never denied it, then role claim right after and told the truth.. so unless I'm missing something it seems legit. I had my suspicions too which is why I investigated beast night 1 and he came back innocent and voted with us so to me he is confirmed.

You said there's a godfather, yet you are fine with confirming every innocent? If you investigate me or PF and both say innocent, what then? Every person in the game is innocent? Makes 0 sense.

[Kassius]

I love how my vests keep multiplying every day :cheesy:

[Exalt]

I love how my vests keep multiplying every day :cheesy:

I love how you claim a 4-shot BP when most games almost never last more than 4 nights int he first place, making you effectively unlimited BP... as a survivor.

Frankly, I'm wondering how WillBy fell for that shit, considering he's usually the king of hosting and balancing games. A BP survivor is a worthless role that doesn't make any sense.

[Kassius]

Quote me where I claimed I had 4, please. Looking forward to this.

[Exalt]

Quote me where I claimed I had 4, please. Looking forward to this.

Oh,, so it then? All you've done all game is lie, so frankly, I think you're scummy as fuck and should be lynched. The only reason you haven't is because your scum team is probably about to win, and players like Jessup and Beast are over here being fuk fuk idiots about it.

I protected myself, sorry for being unclear.

Lie number 1? Otherwise, there are two protective roles in the game, on top of 3 investigative roles, on top of a bunch of other shit? Yeah fucking right.

This is where the 4-shot comes from btw:

I protected myself, sorry for being unclear.

So if you only had 2, then you'd have died last night to Paul. Meaning you either should be calling Paul scum, or you just fucking lied AGAIN about your role, and survivor is an anti-town role. Sounds like you're trying to cozy up to the scum team.

[Jessup]

Ya u make a few good points as usual but I got 3 innocents.. 1 of which was kass/survivor which I'd have gotten anyways since he was a 3rd party. Things from my angle lined up. Willby flipped what he said he was and these guys voted with me. I could be wrong lol but its the best I can do. I am suspicious about the vehicle claim sigh I was on hehicle because of it too but he voted with us. I can only go so far before going all in. If I'm wrong and got played welp thats how my cookie crumbles. 3 innocents though of people still alive. The game one way or another is about to wrap it up soon I think lol. I honestly suspect you or Kass or Partyfalcon as godfather but who knows sigh. From where I stand everything I did makes sense. I pondered vehicle a lot.. I finally guessed it was some way town could still get 1/3 investigations if sheriff died. The mafia had a shit ton of power roles themselves so this setup is not that unreasonable. Mafia Consort roleblocks and Shapeshifter was listed on backwards which means You can switch roles with someone else every night. (super powerful) Rolemadness but they lost this first.. unsure tho as ixt listed him on death as mafioso and then as shapeshifter on death report page 1

[Exalt]

Hes got 4 bulletproof vests. Or 2, assuming hes self protected each night.

This post, not the other one.

[Exalt]

Ya u make a few good points as usual but I got 3 innocents.. 1 of which was kass/survivor which I'd have gotten anyways since he was a 3rd party. Things from my angle lined up. Willby flipped what he said he was and these guys voted with me. I could be wrong lol but its the best I can do. I am suspicious about the vehicle claim sigh I was on hehicle because of it too but he voted with us. I can only go so far before going all in. If I'm wrong and got played welp thats how my cookie crumbles. 3 innocents though of people still alive. The game one way or another is about to wrap it up soon I think lol. I honestly suspect you or Kass or Partyfalcon as godfather but who knows sigh. From where I stand everything I did makes sense. I pondered vehicle a lot.. I finally guessed it was some way town could still get 1/3 investigations if sheriff died. The mafia had a shit ton of power roles themselves so this setup is not that unreasonable. Mafia Consort roleblocks and Shapeshifter was listed on backwards which means You can switch roles with someone else every night. (super powerful) Rolemadness but they lost this first.. unsure tho as ixt listed him on death as mafioso and then as shapeshifter on death report page 1

Idk, but I'm looking at this from Paul's claim right now, and Kassius is now claiming he didn't have 4 BPs. Since WillBy said either 2 or 4, then Kassius should've died last night to Paul if 2. He did not. He is lying, which makes me think perhaps he is lying to protect the scum team, who offered him a win. That's the usual MO of a survivor by endgame anyway.

[Exalt]

So either Kassius is lying and is helping scum (or is scum), or Paul is lying and is scum. Those are the options.

[Jessup]

Wait so 3rd party gets to pm? lol Plus from my understanding The Paul did not shoot last night. He shot the night before when no one died.

[Exalt]

I'm actually thinking maybe there are two scum factions and I already lost this fucking game as town.

1. There's no way Paul/Vehicle/Kassius are all town/survivor based on the series of lies they got caught in.

2. Beast lied at least once this game too, and there's no way he could have not gotten a result at least last night with no scum roleblocker, or whatever the cosort thing is.

3. There's no way I will believe town had a cop/sheriff, a watcher/tracker, Miss Cleo the psychic, a 2-shot vigi, a 2-shot tracker, a doctor, and a Retributionist, a town bus driver, not to mention if PF is town then whatever the fuck he is, (along with Kthx claiming executioner and Kassius claiming BP survivor that somehow doesn't die even when he should).

I refuse to believe that is true. 3 or 4 scum, even if they're all PRs, is not enough to balance out the town PR overload. That doesn't work balance wise. It just doesn't. WillBy should have been calling this out yesterday, but he didn't. I figured he was scum for it, but who knows what the fuck he was thinking now.

The only way it works is if the Godfather is Bulletproof (Kassius) or if he is actually the survivor, then Paul/Vehicle are scum working with Kassius. That entire sequence of events with Paul conveniently claiming to shoot Kassius after Beast claims no fucking result every night, and Kassius now claiming he didn't have 4 BPs, therefore he shouldve fucking died to Paul, should be enough to show caught scum imo.

[Jessup]

I mean I is possible but ZERO proof so far and my vote has to stay on kthx. Survivor and Executioner is besicall 2 added anti town so.. 6 vs 8 .. and scum gets a chat and role madness.. seems actually fair to me. there could even be 5 mafia.. unknown so far.. but I doubt it

[Exalt]

Wait so 3rd party gets to pm? lol Plus from my understanding The Paul did not shoot last night. He shot the night before when no one died.

3rd party gets to PM? What do you mean?

Also, awfully convenient of Paul there. I can't wait to hear his reasoning for it. Why didn't he shoot one of the unclaimed people last night, or Kthx or something? What was he afraid of?



Wait, so Paul shot the claimed survivor during the night there was no scum kill? LOL jesus christ, this couldn't get any more obvious. HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE CALLING THIS SHIT OUT? This is frustrating as fuck. Don't let Paul win as scum two games in a row. Fucking come on.

VOTE: PAUL