TW Mafia: Dodgeball aka Revenge of the Voth

[Beast]

Vote LF it's either you or vehicle, or both.

[Vehicle]

Yes train was on t_p first I've gone back and reread some of the garbage posts and LF also leaves a bad taste in my mouth

my day 2 scum list is lf, tp, ????

^^ This is the post he's talking about ^^ (It was quoting a LF post ~15 posts into today's phase.)

LF had just voted for him as well. I'm not saying he's NOT scum, just that he does have a bit of an alibi. They could have easily just organized to vote each other not thinking Voth had an Ace in the hole.

[Vehicle]

Beast , if it's any consolation I think everyone agrees killing you N1 last game was a bad play. I am a terrible godfather. No way we'd already have two townies dead if it were me.

[LF]

Jessup voting for me when I spent my night phase trying to protect her is a back breaker D:

[Vehicle]

"Protect her" he says while shooting random people in the night. That sounds like innocence.

[Beast]

Vehicle still love you man, bonk! forever.

[Jessup]

Jessup voting for me when I spent my night phase trying to protect her is a back breaker D:

Last chance, Can you please tell me your Nerd Role in full?

[the_paul]

Unfortunately I still think that, as things stand, LF is the smart play today. Ignoring smoking guns usually gets us in a lot of trouble. Still open to new evidence, but I haven't heard anything too compelling yet.

[Jessup]

Ya T_P.. LF is on super thin ice lol. I see so many holes in LF's story.. I wish I believed he really had my back but I don't come to any logical conclusions he did what he said he did attacking LF. I doubt the action I tried to perform on Vehicle would have failed last night while at the same time having ANY effect on LF's attempt as a vigi. Godfather doesn't stop every action, just killing attempts because godfather is bulletproof as I remember. Even investigative attempts on godfather succeed but turn up innocent. I just wanted to give LF a last attempt to convince us. If he is our vigi its gonna be almost game over for us.

I don't see though how me targeting vehicle and failing would in any way correspond to LF targeting vehicle and failing

[Voth]

Ya T_P.. LF is on super thin ice lol. I see so many holes in LF's story.. I wish I believed he really had my back but I don't come to any logical conclusions he did what he said he did attacking LF. I doubt the action I tried to perform on Vehicle would have failed last night while at the same time having ANY effect on LF's attempt as a vigi. Godfather doesn't stop every action, just killing attempts because godfather is bulletproof as I remember. Even investigative attempts on godfather succeed but turn up innocent. I just wanted to give LF a last attempt to convince us. If he is our vigi its gonna be almost game over for us.

I don't see though how me targeting vehicle and failing would in any way correspond to LF targeting vehicle and failing

It wouldn't correspond at all. I think LF is lagging a little behind on the norms that we are all used to playing with on these forums since this is his first game here. I'm grappling with this a little because the stuff he writes screams SCUM SCUM SCUM, but I know he's not a moron so I'm not sure how much is him just not really understanding how things typically go around here.

I'm concerned that if he is indeed the town vig, then the setup was such that a town vig was included in a balanced setup. That means we likely have a lot of ground to make up as town with two of us already dead (including a nurse). If we lynch off our town vig, the scum team will likely pick off another townie tonight and their lead will be all but insurmountable at that point.

This basically is the decisive phase in the game. If we lynch LF and he's town vig, we are likely toast. If we lynch him and he's scum, we are still in it.

Man, this one is brutal, but with my action being the only lead we have (at least out in the open), I don't know what else to do.

[Voth]

The only way that LF's story makes sense is if Vehicle is the mafia godfather and Jessup was simply roleblocked by town or scum roleblocker. She did indicate that she had some sort of power role on D1, so that's not impossible.

It's either we lynch Vehicle or LF. There's no other options today, and it likely is decisive for the game in general.

[LF]

I'm leaving for work and fully expect to be dead by the time I get home. Good luck to the rest of town. You're going to need it

[the_paul]

The only way that LF's story makes sense is if Vehicle is the mafia godfather and Jessup was simply roleblocked by town or scum roleblocker. She did indicate that she had some sort of power role on D1, so that's not impossible.

It's either we lynch Vehicle or LF. There's no other options today, and it likely is decisive for the game in general.

Unfortunately it seems to come down to lynching the person we KNOW (assuming you're not fucking us, which we all seem to have agreed you're not) performed a killing action on the night someone died, or take the word of the would be killer on who he targeted that allegedly failed. Where's Exalt to remind us all of Occam's Razor when you need him?

[Vehicle]

I don't see though how me targeting vehicle and failing would in any way correspond to LF targeting vehicle and failing

I really don't think it's that hard of a decision. But I guess I know my role.

Especially after Jessup dropped the above nugget. Her action wouldn't of kept me alive if he was indeed the vigilante. I highly doubt a doctor would have protected me last night.

[Voth]

Unfortunately it seems to come down to lynching the person we KNOW (assuming you're not fucking us, which we all seem to have agreed you're not) performed a killing action on the night someone died, or take the word of the would be killer on who he targeted that allegedly failed. Where's Exalt to remind us all of Occam's Razor when you need him?

No arguments here. My vote rests on LF. It just makes me nervous how consequential this phase is and how (knowing Willby is the host) royally fucked we are if LF flips town vig.