The American Revolution

[Pressure Drop]

Atleast tell me ghandi is covered.

not at my old school

[Suh]

not at my old school

was covered in loads of detail at my school

[DoTheFandango]

Ghandi was never taught in my school either.

[Liquid Blue]

I'd suck GWB's dick if it got him the fuck out. I'd consider it an act of altruistic patriotism.

I'd consider it an act of being a fag, but that's just me.

[DoTheFandango]

Tell me you wouldn't take one for the team if it would get GWB out of the White House.

[Epinephrine]

I remember my brother saying that in high school, for World War II, his teacher only taught about the war in Europe and the Holocaust over and over. When my brother asked 'what about Japan?' the guy was completely dumbfounded. Apperently he had no idea that there ever was a war in the Pacific too.


Either way I assume that the British have far too much to cover than to care about the revolution, much like how I bet most Americans don't know much about how they lost the War of 1812 against Canada of all places. Sort of like how the Japanese completely gloss over WWII with a 'we were liberating Asia but then the USA nuked us... bastards'.

[Vykromond]

face it, you guys [the USA] arnt that important

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[Ephemeral]

Maybe schools should concentrate more on teaching kids to learn, rather than facts.

My opinion is that 'learning to learn' is more important than 'facts'. 'Learning' usually entails having an open mind to new things, considering new ways to look at things, understanding that there are many ways to look at something, figuring out that as soon as you think you really know something, you come up with 10 more questions about it.

Given the posts in this thread, I would say that this isn't being done in any country. And that is sad.

[Superted]

I agree with you Eph, it's actually being experimented with. I watched a video a bit ago (in class); 'Socrates for primary school'. You had these 6 year old kids in group discussion who asked questions like 'but how do you know you're alive?'. It was quite...amusing.

[Subjugation]

...much like how I bet most Americans don't know much about how they lost the War of 1812 against Canada of all places.

Um...are you sure about that?

If the US lost the war of 1812, then wouldn't Face be living in the UK right now, and I'd be living in Mexico? :unsure:

The US declared war because of the British and French impressments and basically having their trade squeezed by both Britain and France. In the end, both the US and Britain decided it was in their interests to establish a treatise, but saying the US lost would not really be accurate.

Anyway, I don't know much about Canadian history, so why do you think the US lost the war of 1812? I understand it was good for Canada's future because they were able to establish a border that way, but it was still Britain, right?

[Vykromond]

Maybe schools should concentrate more on teaching kids to learn, rather than facts.

My opinion is that 'learning to learn' is more important than 'facts'. 'Learning' usually entails having an open mind to new things, considering new ways to look at things, understanding that there are many ways to look at something, figuring out that as soon as you think you really know something, you come up with 10 more questions about it.

Given the posts in this thread, I would say that this isn't being done in any country. And that is sad.

okay eph, let's hear your suggestions about how to make that happen

[Troll King]

Um...are you sure about that?

If the US lost the war of 1812, then wouldn't Face be living in the UK right now, and I'd be living in Mexico? :unsure:

The US declared war because of the British and French impressments and basically having their trade squeezed by both Britain and France. In the end, both the US and Britain decided it was in their interests to establish a treatise, but saying the US lost would not really be accurate.

Anyway, I don't know much about Canadian history, so why do you think the US lost the war of 1812? I understand it was good for Canada's future because they were able to establish a border that way, but it was still Britain, right?

Epi was probably just trolling with that comment, but many share that perspective. The reasoning is that Canada was victorious (note the emphasis on Canada instead of Britain, though Canada didn't technically exist as such) because they were able to hold off the American invasion.

The war wasn't about Britain regaining control over the States (which would have lead to your scenario of Face being a Brit) but more about the States wanting to push Britian out of North America. This aspect of Manifest Destiny wasn't the only reason, but it was a strong reason. For Canadians, it was about survival and halting the American expansion north. Many of us claim victory because we were successful in doing that, and they would counter your statement of Face not living in the UK with a more accurate argument that Epi and I aren't currently living in the U.S., which is what was likely to have happened if the war ended differently. Many Americans will agree that the war was a great step in establishing American national identity, but I think it had a greater effect on establishing a Canadian national identity, especially in how it managed to unite both Upper Canada and Lower Canada (i.e. English Canada and French Canada) in a common cause. Many would argue that there wouldn't have been a Canada if the war hadn't gone the way it did. That's why I emphasized the idea of the war being a victory for Canada rather than a victory for Britain earlier.

I don't even think the war of 1812 has much of a presence in British history lessons as, at the time, they were busy with a much more defining conflict with Napolean.

[Facetious]

okay eph, let's hear your suggestions about how to make that happen

TOUCHE!

[Facetious]

maybe i would be british but i would never like watching soccer

[Vykromond]

Napolean.

that's all i saw from that post, sorry