John McCain vs Barack Obama Mega-Politic-Thread of super fun awesomeness.

[Zerzera]

And you come to this conclusion by...

studying Public Administration. But you could always disprove my thesis in an argument.

[Nycle]

Here are some sites if you want to keep up with the election-


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/

Lol, electoral-vote.com was created and maintained by one of my professors (Andrew Tanenbaum) at my university. :greedy:

He bragged about it once during one of his lectures two years ago, funny to see it back in action.

[Jerome Scuggs]

Isn't that one of the fundamental ideals of your country? I thought you were all about sticking up for those ideals?

tl;dr: I view all forms of government as flawed, including democracy - and especially democracy since it is the best at giving the illusion of freedom while being the most open to political corruption

Who the fuck gave you rights? Besides the government, there is no body but your own that says you have rights. They could well be whipping the living shit out of you in a factory if it wasn't for your government.

you're a moron. go read the declaration of independence.

[Chao.]

studying Public Administration. But you could always disprove my thesis in an argument.

So you're saying you came to the conclusion that the government keeps me "out of factories" and stops me from being whipped by "they" (whomever "they" may be) by studying public administration. Ok.

I'm inclined to agree with Jerome at this point.

[Zerzera]

you're a moron. go read the declaration of independence.

I didn't know you based your convictions on religion. Then I condemn you even more.

[genocidal]

I didn't know you based your convictions on religion. Then I condemn you even more.

What does religion have to do with the Declaration? Thomas Jefferson (the author in case you didn't know) was at best a Deist.

If you consider the word "Creator" or "God" in the abstract sense as religious, then I guess I "condemn you even more," because you just don't fucking get it.

[Stompa]

I submit that all McCain/Palin supporters are actually IRL trolls.

[Cops]

Even though the polls are early and nothing substantial has happened it's still interesting that CNN is comparing how well John McCain is doing compared to George Bush in 04.

[Galleleo]

So based on a combination of CNN and CBS (I did check Fox, but they seem to lag behind). It seems that Obama is on course to win. When we look at the 2004 map and states Bush won (I understand there is not really a big fight for the then blue coloured states), Obama is ahead in Florida (though I understand this is really early to call) and North Carolina. If Obama can grab these states he is like 99% there right?

CNN puts it at Obama 102 - 34 McCain
CBS puts it at Obama 102 - 54 McCain
Fox puts it at (something, I donno, it wont load)

And it seems like Democrats are winning big at the house and senate too?

[Epinephrine]

What's interesting is the vote total. As of 9:17pm EST, the NYTimes has this vote total:

10,788,247 Obama vs 10,777,083 McCain

Not quite the landslide people were predicting.

[Cops]

fox news site fucking sucks for election night, tune into cnn and have their website up.

If the interactive map isn't impressive and they aren't reporting on things 'right away' I won't watch it. It's too early to call but it's looking good for Obama.

[Cops]

What's interesting is the vote total. As of 9:17pm EST, the NYTimes has this vote total:

10,788,247 Obama vs 10,777,083 McCain

Not quite the landslide people were predicting.

What's important is to win states you're not predicted to win. The overall vote is important but democrats always win 'certain' states just the same way the republicans win 'certain states'. This election is going to be decided by a few key states.

[Galleleo]

Obama seems to be winning in Ohio, North Carolina and Florida, if he gets those (though it seems to be almost done anyway) its done.

CNN says: 13,568,499 vs. 13,361,837

[Cops]

major prediction! lawl

i see him getting florida and ohio

[Squeezer]

major prediction! lawl

i see him getting florida and ohio

he just got Ohio

it's just about in the bag. Cali and Florida are going to kill it.