Distension before TWL?

[PjOtTeR]

Whoever created this fucking piece of an shit event should die...
seriously die...
Like burn in hell die...
Like be forced to watch Da1 being fisted by his nephew DIE...
Nearly all my time I could be on yesterday was ruined by this fucking piece of crap event... I dont care people playing it, heck I've played it myself and I think I know why these distension regulars are some deluded freaks... Has any of you seen the chatcolors and stuff god that is some annoying settings, so dark and Hurting the mind, makes me wanna go deluded and I guess that's what certain people did...

To those distentionubs go screw each other in a different zone or something... you're making the entire zone suffer... TW's main event is TWL and it will be TWL till it dies, argueing this is silly. TWL indeed has had flaws of it own or server crashes caused by somethign entirely different... But we try to minimize those server crashes and flaws aswell, because we want TWL to be ran as smoothly as possible... If distension causes a lot of server crashes and other crashes and makes ppl lag more and etc. etc.... then why the fuck should we take the risk of it possibly ruining the MAIN EVENT of the zone? If you cannot get that information through your thick skulls, then you're just being hypocriticall fuckbags...

Heck I do not see what good distension is doing for this zone in any way, it attracts a bunch of morons no one has even seen around ever... It makes server crash... Why the fuck host it in TW already when it's development fase is not over yet... distension still has it flaws since it's still being worked on... And since it's still being worked on it should be hosted in TW developshitzone... This way the bot wont make TW SUFFER LIKE IT MAKES US SUFFER NOW!!! So bring back distension to developmentshitzone and have it hosted there as much as you want!!

[Doc Flabby]

I think just as a hundred others may, that he's just caught up in the buzz of OUR something, so brand new, innovative, and binding half of pubs to something which will elevate all competition, whether vet-oriented or not.

How the fuck does a game which rewards time wasted rather than skill elevate competition.

[Codeman!]

if you expect next years up and coming twbders to be from ?go, you're sadly mistaken. the fact that people begin to rank up later than others is typical in all rpgs. the best part is the preservation of tw pub settings, such that invincibility has been nearly eliminated, compared to the prior betas. rank 1 can kill rank 20 with a single shot, and earn far higher rp/h than the latter had to reach his height. along with the ingenuity of this advancement is the addition of specialization, adding further layers of tact. earning your way through the thick and thin of distension (with notably superior skill curves than pubs) is far better than beginning with all of your settings, as far as elevating competition goes. the most essential factor for the elevation aside from the composition of the event itself, is the frequency required to endure it. the sporadic temporal aspect creating a desire, often desperate, and the required accuracy, dodging, and reflexes to endure the event....it all adds up to a sooner new generation of league-worthy spiders terrs and sharks. if there were no technical bugs, all of you flamers would have to sit quietly and observe the truth.

[PjOtTeR]

if you expect next years up and coming twbders to be from ?go, you're sadly mistaken. the fact that people begin to rank up later than others is typical in all rpgs. the best part is the preservation of tw pub settings, such that invincibility has been nearly eliminated, compared to the prior betas. rank 1 can kill rank 20 with a single shot, and earn far higher rp/h than the latter had to reach his height. along with the ingenuity of this advancement is the addition of specialization, adding further layers of tact. earning your way through the thick and thin of distension (with notably superior skill curves than pubs) is far better than beginning with all of your settings, as far as elevating competition goes. the most essential factor for the elevation aside from the composition of the event itself, is the frequency required to endure it. the sporadic temporal aspect creating a desire, often desperate, and the required accuracy, dodging, and reflexes to endure the event....it all adds up to a sooner new generation of league-worthy spiders terrs and sharks. if there were no technical bugs, all of you flamers would have to sit quietly and observe the truth.

Yes, because all the people that love distension are the most skilled players outside of that arena... friggin idiot get a hold of yourself, if it wasn't for the fact that whoever puts most time in it is the best (/has the best ship), they wouldn't like the event themselfs... The only reason people like this event is because they have no life and can dedicate all that time into this shitass event and thus feel how it is to be the best at something... Same goes about any MMORPG or whatever that crap is called... If you have no life and are willing to put in the hours you become good at it... and sadly there are people that excell in nothing and have the time available to put into it and therefor sthrive to be the "best" at it... and I can see you are one of those idiots.

[Codeman!]

it boils down to whether you have the grit for rpgs or you're forever complacent with games like shinobi, if you want to boil it down at all. getting personal in this case is retarded, as the only affect it has on you are technical bugs. as for your sarcastic comment, i didnt quite spend the time to figure it out. all i know is, fuck vets theyre overly self-centered as it is. when the valuable effects of distension make your way in time, such as an influx of decent players to your twl squad, you will be reminded of all your needless flaming. there's no arguing the competition elevation from a new ?go base type event. your only possible quarrels are a personal lack of patience for the style of game, and the ever-diminishing bugs. the benefits largely outweigh your temporary state of mental sodomy. trust me any drastic shift in a decade old game is going to piss off the vets, and i say let the redheaded step child live whether its your boiling ego or the new generation of tolerable gamers. in contrast all you beg for is death and stagnation.

[kthx]

If and when TWL dies, more than 5 people will play distension to the end of the zone. People who don't understand that learning to play in pubs is boring, pointless, and takes much longer considering the skill curve...well, they are vets. If dbot has the power to crash the zone or produce negative s2c, how could that matter running HOURS prior to TWL?
I dont think HMS is particularly arrogant about all of this, nor is he jaded by a lack of skills. I think just as a hundred others may, that he's just caught up in the buzz of OUR something, so brand new, innovative, and binding half of pubs to something which will elevate all competition, whether vet-oriented or not.
It seems clear the +-20h/w schedule will be lame enough to prompt a full 24/7 one, and that the TWLers demand distension wait, but I don't think the loss of popular opinion in the remaining quintet of decent squads will stop anything from anything. They will carry on their bullshit legacies, and enliven the newbies in their wake, regardless. The only shit in the fan is the dbots server integrity. Dumb it down to ?go base capacity. The red headed step child lives on.

Because it caused all the bots to crash for several hours, which means TWL would have been affected even if it had "stopped running" an hour before the first TWL match.

It isn't brand new, its called hyperspace and mystic kingdom in TW, and since it has different settings than most arenas in TW including TWL it actually drops competition.

Distension will never be hosted 24/7, that is an ignorant decision for this zone to make, I personally don't care if you don't play twd/twl, if you want to play something 24/7 then start getting good at TW, don't whine because you aren't good enough and cry about some event that should be in its own zone being hosted 24/7 in TW.

if you expect next years up and coming twbders to be from ?go, you're sadly mistaken. the fact that people begin to rank up later than others is typical in all rpgs. the best part is the preservation of tw pub settings, such that invincibility has been nearly eliminated, compared to the prior betas. rank 1 can kill rank 20 with a single shot, and earn far higher rp/h than the latter had to reach his height. along with the ingenuity of this advancement is the addition of specialization, adding further layers of tact. earning your way through the thick and thin of distension (with notably superior skill curves than pubs) is far better than beginning with all of your settings, as far as elevating competition goes. the most essential factor for the elevation aside from the composition of the event itself, is the frequency required to endure it. the sporadic temporal aspect creating a desire, often desperate, and the required accuracy, dodging, and reflexes to endure the event....it all adds up to a sooner new generation of league-worthy spiders terrs and sharks. if there were no technical bugs, all of you flamers would have to sit quietly and observe the truth.

So players are going to learn how to play TW and become competitive from an arena that doesn't have TW settings? It doesn't matter if a level 20 warbird can die to a level 1 warbird, neither are TW settings, same with sharks, or any other ship in this event. Learning how to shark with 8 repels or learning how to terr where one bullet can kill anyone isn't going to help people in ?go base. You are completely wrong about this game, and your ideals on what would help this zone.

man! it boils down to whether you have the grit for rpgs or you're forever complacent with games like shinobi, if you want to boil it down at all. getting personal in this case is retarded, as the only affect it has on you are technical bugs. as for your sarcastic comment, i didnt quite spend the time to figure it out. all i know is, fuck vets theyre overly self-centered as it is. when the valuable effects of distension make your way in time, such as an influx of decent players to your twl squad, you will be reminded of all your needless flaming. there's no arguing the competition elevation from a new ?go base type event. your only possible quarrels are a personal lack of patience for the style of game, and the ever-diminishing bugs. the benefits largely outweigh your temporary state of mental sodomy. trust me any drastic shift in a decade old game is going to piss off the vets, and i say let the redheaded step child live whether its your boiling ego or the new generation of tolerable gamers. in contrast all you beg for is death and stagnation.

Again, how are players going to get better at events when they are flying around in a level 50 warbird with multifire and super, this does NOT translate into more competitive twd/twl squads. On top of that the bot isn't getting more stable, its getting less stable, just yesterday it shut down the forums, tw.org, and turned off all the bots for several hours. And I have said this before and I will say this again, I would much rather see TW die than seeing it turned into some sort of sideshow MMORPG zone. Look at the history, most of the players in TWL have been playing this game for many many years, compared to the people who play distension who have for the most part been playing for three months to a year. Who do you think will keep coming back year and year to play TWL.. do you think distension players will be here three years from now after they have maxed out their rank in every ship.. I don't. The point is, on TWL Sundays 650 generally show up to play in and watch TWL events, I haven't seen any proof that Distension brings up the playerbase at all, even during its scheduled times.

[Zeebu]

once again...

distension is fun

it has no place in SSCU Trenchwars


edit:
wark brought up a couple decent points. playing distension isnt going to prepare you for league. yes, it will generally make you better at controlling your ship and getting the overall use of the buttons down... but pub already does that. it will prepare you for a slightly organized version of basing, but purepub already does that.

for other things concerning league, it seems as if it actually makes things worse. you arent using the ship settings youd use in league. you arent using a map that resembles ?go twlb. there is no sort of ld/lj aspects whatsoever.

in other words, very little of this event can directly translate to league.

with a smaller event, who cares? smaller events are distractions from leagues. thats fine. temporary distractions from the focus of the zone is just fine.

a long term distraction from the focus of the zone is bad. please dont let it happen. distension has evolved so much that it is different from trenchwars to a degree that it just has to go.

please dont let it loose in the zone it doesnt belong.

[Codeman!]

(ur fuckin soft boiled dude)

[HateTheFake]

when the valuable effects of distension make your way in time, such as an influx of decent players to your twl squad, you will be reminded of all your needless flaming. there's no arguing the competition elevation from a new ?go base type event.

Basically your saying distension is whats going to bring players to twl? I disagree. You cant train someone for one thing while using another style of settings. It would be like training for basketball and expecting to be good in football. Pubs are the foundation of twl. Everyone in tw uses these ship settings. Playing distension and having a ship go 5 times faster with 3 times more health is nowhere near the skill or ship settings of twl. In fact your probably going to do worst. The good thing about pubs are people get involved, decide they want a squad and start using what they have learned. They eventually learn strategy and play style and if they are competitive enough will make twl. You cant say distension will be grooming players for this when its not based on skill, but rp. If you have a terr with 6 burst and i have a terr with 1 burst, would you killing me be skill? Would a twbd squad recruit me because my terr has 6 burst and can go faster then all the other terrs. I would guess no. If anything distension is taking away from future twl players and skill levels.

Honestly recruiting from distension is almost like recruiting from ?go bug or ?go mario...

[Codeman!]

i dont fuck around with the teamshare ships. i dont know how imbalanced they are programmed to be at higher ranks. honestly i dont care if they stray/enhance regular pub settings. the fact is that its a ball already rolling and its trench wars ship setting BASED, and it's capture the flag. fine, it may be a basketball player training for football, but at least it's relevant athleticism. lots of people think ping pong is athletic too, but we can all see bball and futbol are much more similar. you bastards will carry a doused torch to the edge of nowhere. alas, the sun rises on your graves.

[Codeman!]

as grim as it sounds, the harder to kill the better. the jealousy or contempt i'm sensing towards superpowered basing ships is irregardless of, well you know, the enhancement of a skill curve with relevancy. better to lift weights in the offseason, even if you're a running back. ask emmit smith.

[kthx]

It isn't playing a football game to get ready to play someone in a basketball game, its playing Halo to get warmed up for playing Madden.

Can you seriously not understand the differences between a game with pub settings, that leads people to join squads, and stay on chats, and a game that is designed so you don't have to talk to anyone except a bot, and just play on whatever team you happen to get randomed on while having ship settings that FAR differ from a regular TW arena?

The key to keep this game alive is through getting people involved with squads and chats so they are obligated to login to help their squad, and enjoy logging on to hang out with their friends on a chat. It isn't coding a super cool mmorpg that is basically its own zone inside of TW a set of staff seperate from that of TW staff, special schedule that no other event no matter how popular it was was able to get inside of TW. If bringing a doused torch to the edge of nowhere is still getting over 100 people watching TWL matches then you are a pessimist among pessimists. Besides I think a much better analogy would be a group of players carrying lit torches up to the scientists laboratory for creating a monster.

[Doc Flabby]

once again...

distension is fun

it has no place in SSCU Trenchwars

......

please dont let it loose in the zone it doesnt belong.

I agree. I think it could be an asset to the subspace community as a whole...

As an aside i'm quite willing to provide hosting for a distension based zone.

[Dabram]

god this one is even a bigger douche than dako/roxxkat

[Zeebu]

the point is:

if youre training for basketball, why would you go play football anyways.

in other words, if youre playing distension and distension only, why would you reach out and try new things anyways?


so, if youre only playing distension, why would you play TWL? theyre probably too good for you anyways. you cant devote time to making yourself a supership in TWL, you have to be good.

this all goes along wiht why it doesnt need to be in TW in general.

hey, i like playing distension. its fun. i enjoy tooling around in my spider or shark as much as the next guy. it has nothing to do with the zone of TW though except for the fact that the ship settings are very loosely based on the normal ships.

im not asking for qan to be lynched. im not asking for people to abolish distension. all im saying is that it does not belong in SSCU Trenchwars