Thread not about the Thunder sub that cost Pirates the game. Don't worry.

[Summa]

you people need to stop arguing. stab proved this case correct, and you have a staffer who willingly acknowledged that they were wrong and refuses to acquiesce even in the face of irrefutable fact. someone with that degree of idiocy cannot be reasoned with.

[Kim]

Ease has been substituted by Ardour, with 1 deaths left <-- time 1
T saetep> yeah <-- time 1
Ease is out. 12 wins 10 losses <-- time 2
T ignite> whoa <-- time 3
T ignite> LOL <-- time 3

time 1 - *bullet hits ease*(not fast enough to be put in spec so the shot connects) + *ardour enters*
time 2 - *specs ease* + *10deaths*
time 3 - *whine fest*


btw suggest people on diso to stop arguing AGAINST thunder

didnt ease link a game for diso going to 51

What are you even trying to say here? You don't have the server log times, you do not know the time duration between those messages are. Just because you assigned the sub as "time 1" and Ease being specced as "time 2" doesn't mean that's how it went.

[Mattey]

You know that I can see you're actively reading this thread right Mirrorrim?

Cause I'm still waiting for a reply that I don't think is coming.

EDIT: I'm not even sure why I'm doing this, there is no way you are going to change your mind no matter how wrong you are continually proven.

And Eyesore, I'm not going to address your refutation because it made 0 sense.

[Dwopple]

yes there is a game with diso going 51, but the outcome wouldnt have changed either way...pirates was the victor when diso was allowed 51 deaths.

heres some food for thought: Definition of 'Unfair'

–adjective
1. not fair; not conforming to approved standards, as of justice, honesty, or ethics: an unfair law; an unfair wage policy.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/unfair


since when is thunder being allowed 51 deaths considered 'fair'?

and when did 51 = 50?

[Mattey]

Waiting for the reply I'm sure is coming.

Oh and here it is again Mirror.

You conveniently never addressed the fact that you must get hit in order to die. Your explanation is that somehow the bot messed this up even though it's impossible.

[kthx]

It didn't make sense Izor, go eat another Angry Whopper and stfu.

[Izor]

I will do what I can to exploit this is all of Disobliges TWLJs or TWLDs.

You wont be able to do it. Its a very rare thing because of the timing involved.

Mattey, I addressed the issue of not having to be hit to die. When you can address my point I'll move on

[Draft]

Ease has been substituted by Ardour, with 1 deaths left <-- time 1
T saetep> yeah <-- time 1
Ease is out. 12 wins 10 losses <-- time 2
T ignite> whoa <-- time 3
T ignite> LOL <-- time 3

time 1 - *bullet hits ease*(not fast enough to be put in spec so the shot connects) + *ardour enters*
time 2 - *specs ease* + *10deaths*
time 3 - *whine fest*


btw suggest people on diso to stop arguing AGAINST thunder

didnt ease link a game for diso going to 51

[Mattey]

Stop playing the victim faggot.

You conveniently never addressed the fact that you must get hit in order to die. Your explanation is that somehow the bot messed this up even though it's impossible. This is why people who don't understand nuance should not be allowed to be TWLop.

So how did Ease die mirrorrim, you've never given an answer, I just read the whole other thread, and re-read this one. You haven't answered it yet. How did ease die?

Is it because the bot didn't like him?

[MirrorriM]

Mirrorim, you don't want to change it now so you won't look weak and lose face. That is like the default psychological reaction.

Hmm..what was that point I made about squads crying "bias!" then magically forgetting this bias when they get their way?

[Noah]

Mirrorim, you don't want to change it now so you won't look weak and lose face. That is like the default psychological reaction.

What you need to think of is that if this is allowed then you will look even weaker. I can promise you that I will do what I can to exploit this is all of Disobliges TWLJs or TWLDs.

I want to see this game getting replayed.

What happened in our game is not the same thing as it played no impact on the game, and the other squad had no intentions of complaining. I would honestly accept a rematch if that player we subbed in one the game singlehandedly.

Also saying that this can't be used in an appeal because there is no rule against this is just stupid. This is clearly an error, and it has to be addressed asap. It's quite obvious that this mistake happened because a bot was in charge of the game rather than a host, so a mistake in the bot is bot failure. Just because you can't understand this doesn't make it any less real.

[Mattey]

Actually I pointed out a lot of different things, you just like focusing on one of them.

You conveniently never addressed the fact that you must get hit in order to die. Your explanation is that somehow the bot messed this up even though it's impossible. This is why people who don't understand nuance should not be allowed to be TWLop.

[PH]

well, that certainly makes things ok! climb a wall of dicks, twl ops.

[Scoop]

This is stupid as fuck. Grant us a fair rematch or this will just be a mar on this sham that was supposed to be TWL. Honestly, this is on the level of pascone's fuck ups.

[Dwopple]

Mirror you acknowledge it as a glitch but say you wont do anything about it because there is "no rule" to it....?

You think if a student found a glitch in the SAT test to give himself a better grade the administration would give him a slap on the wrist and take care of it next year? Fuck no. They would be like "listen here mother fucker, take the test again."


If the glitch did not happen and (A) the sub was made quicker and ease did in fact not die out...then yes...the game would have been played out and we could all bitch at thunder for being lame. or (B) the sub was made and the glitch did not occur taking ease out of the game and not allowing Ardour to play...the game could have gone either way. Thats a fact. Its not as if the glitch happened and thunder stomped us by 15 kills...it was a close match.


This isnt TWD where we can all bitch for no reason....this is TWL.

5.01
Any Player found to be guilty of cheating to alter game play and to create an unfair advantage during a TWL match will be subject to:

A) Permanent suspension from Trench Wars Leagues participation.

B) Forfeit of all squad matches the offending player played in the week the offense was discovered.

C) Referral to League Operators and Trench Wars Moderators for immediate punishment including being banned from Trench Wars.

not that we want thunder out of TWL, just a replay.

and:

7. Appeals Process and Guidelines
7.01
If a squad feels that such factors as game referee decisions, staff involvement, server or router error, cheating, or other instances have affected the outcome and fairness of a game, that squad has the right to appeal to the League Operator. It is up to the squad to ensure that as much information as possible is included in the appeal for the League Operators to make a fair decision.

51 does NOT equal 50.

2v1 is NOT the same as 1v1.


edit: even fukin draft is acknowledging it as a glitch. hes making a mockery of it lol