Mafia: What a time to be alive!

[ixt]

i am vanilla townie but with an x-shot ability that i wont reveal until i find someone who i can trust

[ixt]

whatevs bruh, dont mind being voted out as those who are would be on the suspect list. and nice bullshit "knowing midoent is townie". my reasoning for removing his vote is comparatively to last game, he appears to me more "willing" to express his view as in the last game his actions were more of a tone to "fit in"

[Voth]

Woah... that slew of voting/unvoting all on one page is highly suspicious.

After analyzing it, I?m most interested in ixt. I think he might be half ass targeting and then moving away from
midoent to gain town trust, knowing midoent is a townie.

Then once called out by Exalt, he puts a huge retribution vote on him without any reason besides payback?

i know you are really bad at mafia, but this is as bad as bad gets. Based on all the really dumb shit he has said this round so far, I would not be surprised if he was The Godfather. Certainly not guaranteeing it as it?s literally the first phase and nothing to go on, but he is playing a little different kind of moronic compared to last game.

unvote midoent
vote ixt

[Exalt]

if hes the leading votegetter and turns up town, those tagged on him will be first suspected. but if mafia, then horray we got a lucky lynch the very first day. i for one will wait until willby posts again to see whether i will relocate my vote. what u seem to me just at that moment is a bit of 找抗推目标, i dont know how to phrase it in English since recently ive been too used to playing the chinese version of werewolf, pardon me for that (u can transliate it yourself! ). after a few more different posts from many who have yet to say more (ex. posted only once or twice) i may remove my tentative vote, who knows?

If you think town just won the lottery by finding scum on the very first serious bandwagon on Day 1, while Willby and his scum teammates are doing absolutely nothing about it, you really are another Jessup right now. There has been no reason given that I've seen for any vote on Willby except the first one or two, which were joke votes calling him a newb. That's fine, since it was RVS phase. The successive votes after that are not fine though, such as what Rodney did, because there's no real reason given for it. Midoent is also suspect for that same reason, since their vote is just piling on without any cause. Claiming to be saving themselves is misleading, since midoent was never leading in the vote count at any point, even when you gave them a lame OMGUS vote in retaliation, which you quickly removed. Midoent even seemed to admit that he thinks Willby is likely town, so is that scummy behavior or no?

Btw, retaliation votes such as you've done to midoent and me are a sign of either a weak player or scum. Your quick unvote of midoent shows you didn't think he was scum at any point, and unless you think I'm scum for simply questioning your motives, I doubt you think I am too. Do you actually have anyone you genuinely think might be scum?

if u care so much about the "bandwagon" why dont u compile an entire list of the players currently tagged for him? would be helpful to analyze at least

Are you serious right now? There's literally only 2 total pages, and I just posted an extensive list about my thoughts on everything and everyone in the game so far. Try reading. Are you seriously this incapable as town, or are you just bad at pretending to scum hunt when you are scum? You say you have previous mafia experience, so you can't claim to be a newbie right now.

[ixt]

Brief chat? I don't care about Willby, because it's near 100% in my mind that he is town when he is bandwagoned so quickly without any reason on Day 1. I care about his voters and everyone who ignores them, as if they aren't scummy for that wagon.

If you think Willby is scum and deserves the lynch, explain why he is scum, since none of his voters have done so. If you think he isn't scum, then why don't you suspect any of his voters, even though they haven't given a reason to lynch him?

if u care so much about the "bandwagon" why dont u compile an entire list of the players currently tagged for him? would be helpful to analyze at least

[ixt]

You blatently ignored Willby (the only wagon right now) and his voters (who gave zero reason to vote him at all, not even for lurking) and decided you wanted to hear from midoent voters instead. It's not putting works into your mouth at all. It's taking what you said and everything implied with it. You are ignoring Willby and all his voters, and now you go after me for pointing it out.

Oh, and what you just said in this quote means you DID just put the words into your own mouth. You just sadmitted exactly what I said you were doing. You never mentioned Willby or had no intention to ever do so, regardless of the fact that he is going to be lynched. That means you are 100% fine with it, because you don't care.

Also, scum don't all need to vote for the same wagon. It's almost never the case actually. You never see every scum member on the same lynch wagon. At least some will vote elsewhere trying to avoid suspicion, hence they will ignore that wagon and everything about it, since being on it is guilt by association if/when that lynch flips town.

Oh, and whose target did I put on my back, your scum team's? Are you implying you will lynch me now, or you will NK me now? Also, are you saying you think I'm scum? Please explain

if hes the leading votegetter and turns up town, those tagged on him will be first suspected. but if mafia, then horray we got a lucky lynch the very first day. i for one will wait until willby posts again to see whether i will relocate my vote. what u seem to me just at that moment is a bit of 找抗推目标, i dont know how to phrase it in English since recently ive been too used to playing the chinese version of werewolf, pardon me for that (u can transliate it yourself! ). after a few more different posts from many who have yet to say more (ex. posted only once or twice) i may remove my tentative vote, who knows?

[Exalt]

if willby wants to have a brief chat, im fine with that too and ill decide from there

Brief chat? I don't care about Willby, because it's near 100% in my mind that he is town when he is bandwagoned so quickly without any reason on Day 1. I care about his voters and everyone who ignores them, as if they aren't scummy for that wagon.

If you think Willby is scum and deserves the lynch, explain why he is scum, since none of his voters have done so. If you think he isn't scum, then why don't you suspect any of his voters, even though they haven't given a reason to lynch him?

[Exalt]

vote exalt ur putting words in my mouth now that I DID NOT say? this is an EXTREMELY scummy statement at this stage of the game, as i merely stated i want to hear what people who voted midoent has to say due to the exchange we just had. nowhere in this exchange had i even mentioned whether or not willby deserves to be suspected, but ur just blatantly saying i'm fine with willby being lynched. Do you see me voting for willby? uve put a target on ur own back, bruh. not my fault.

You blatently ignored Willby (the only wagon right now) and his voters (who gave zero reason to vote him at all, not even for lurking) and decided you wanted to hear from midoent voters instead. It's not putting works into your mouth at all. It's taking what you said and everything implied with it. You are ignoring Willby and all his voters, and now you go after me for pointing it out.

Oh, and what you just said in this quote means you DID just put the words into your own mouth. You just sadmitted exactly what I said you were doing. You never mentioned Willby or had no intention to ever do so, regardless of the fact that he is going to be lynched. That means you are 100% fine with it, because you don't care.

Also, scum don't all need to vote for the same wagon. It's almost never the case actually. You never see every scum member on the same lynch wagon. At least some will vote elsewhere trying to avoid suspicion, hence they will ignore that wagon and everything about it, since being on it is guilt by association if/when that lynch flips town.

Oh, and whose target did I put on my back, your scum team's? Are you implying you will lynch me now, or you will NK me now? Also, are you saying you think I'm scum? Please explain

[ixt]

if willby wants to have a brief chat, im fine with that too and ill decide from there

[ixt]

You want answers from midoent voters, but you're cool with Willby being lynched? What reason do you think Willby is scum? Can you answer why anyone thinks he is scum so far and why so many piled on that wagon? Why do you ignore Willby voters?

vote exalt ur putting words in my mouth now that I DID NOT say? this is an EXTREMELY scummy statement at this stage of the game, as i merely stated i want to hear what people who voted midoent has to say due to the exchange we just had. nowhere in this exchange had i even mentioned whether or not willby deserves to be suspected, but ur just blatantly saying i'm fine with willby being lynched. Do you see me voting for willby? uve put a target on ur own back, bruh. not my fault.

[Exalt]

Obv I don't wanna lynch a townie but at this point no one was scummy enough

So you think Willby is scum or town? If scum, why? If not, why are you not trying to find scum instead? The goal of the game is to lynch scum, not town, so which one do you think Willby is? He'd still be the vote leader regardless of your vote, so you have no excuses about saving yourself.

[midoent]

Obv I don't wanna lynch a townie but at this point no one was scummy enough

[Exalt]

Most people who voiced vote midoent is mostly due to lurk. As he has talked I want to see those responses.

You want answers from midoent voters, but you're cool with Willby being lynched? What reason do you think Willby is scum? Can you answer why anyone thinks he is scum so far and why so many piled on that wagon? Why do you ignore Willby voters?

[Exalt]

Voting to save my own skin. Plus he voted for me.
vote willby

Nevermind. I officially add midoent to my suspected scum list.

[Exalt]

You guys are a clusterfuck of randomness. If you want to vote lurkers, vote Missa with me to force her to speak. She's constantly on the 'Whose Online' list, yet never posted after her random WillBy vote. Also, there is 100% always at least one (usually more) lurkers who are scum, because they have to always watch what they say, while town tend to not give a shit (which gets them votes). Scum also tend to be ignored on Day 1, because their teammates will always push for a town lynch instead, and scum aren't going to be voting and pressuring each other at this point in the game without playing 4d underwater chess, which no offense, I don't think someone like ixt or midoent are capable of doing as new mafia players. My guess is nobody with any type of wagon is scum right now. I also think that scum will likely be ignoring each other as much as possible in Day 1, meaning you won't see them even mention each other's names if they can get away with it. They won't vote each other if there's a wagon there too, but rather push or jump on some townie counter-wagon wherever possible.

Anyway, here's my meaningless first list so far:

Exalt - I'm either Town, the Godfather, or I'm a bulletproof, strongman SK. Take your pick
WillBy - First real 'wagon' (even with joke votes) after Undercut. Probably Town
Zeebu - Dont care yet, but maybe Town
field - Hasn't posted after joke votes, will see if he's a lurker or not soon. Don't care yet, but maybe Town
Voth - Looks like Town so far
Undercut - First 'wagon' (joke votes), but Missa saved him by switching to Willby after it gained traction. Suspect if Missa is scum
Missa - Should vote here and force her to talk or die. Scum?
BIET - Hasn't posted at all, we'll see if they do. Suspect scum by default
ixt - Looks like Jessup-style town drunk right now, but I dislike the weak midoent exchange. IDK if dumb scum or dumb town yet though.
midoent - See above, both VS each other in less that one page before unvoting. If they thought each other scum, they wouldnt unvote asap like that, so they aren't looking for scum at all, are they?
Rodney - His post looked forced and has nothing of value. He voted Willby to add on to that wagon without reason. Scum?
Soilderz - Looks like Town so far
the_paul - One post, lame vote, started the midoent wagon which gained traction asap. Suspect scum?

So to sum it up:

I'll vote for Missa or Rodney right now without any qualms, both for different reasons. Missa for obvious lurking and the weird vote swap to save Undercut and wagon Willby, Rodney for the forced post and bandwagoning of Willby without any reason given, not even as a joke.

Ixt and midoent look like Jessup-style town drunks, but I guess it's possible that if they were scum buddies, they tried an extremely weak attempt to distance themselves Day 1, but I don't think it's worth looking at yet. I also question if midoent would be getting votes so quickly if he was scum.

Undercut actually being scum would be ironic, but I question the quick Willby wagon that Rodney and Missa helped push together, which saved Undercut from any sort of pressure by proxy. It made Willby the current lynch, which means Willby is almost certainly town imo and Missa/Rodney are suspect, with Undercut guilty by association (if either of the others turn out to be scum).

Also, I tied Willby with Missa for a reason. Willby gained more votes, while Missa was unvoted. If Willby is lynched and flips town due to that, I hope town PRs know where to look.

I also suggest the Cop (assuming ixt isn't actually the Cop and gave terrible bread crumbs) doesn't investigate ixt unless you really do think he is scum, since if he is town, that's like investigating Jessup first so she can be town leader. We don't need that kind of shitshow this game. I saw what happened the last one.