Mafia 2020: Town of Salem

[Jessup]

Also Exalt please Throw your trap on me tonight. If I survive I can confirm T_P or Vehicle tonight.

[the_paul]

3rd party gets to PM? What do you mean?

Also, awfully convenient of Paul there. I can't wait to hear his reasoning for it. Why didn't he shoot one of the unclaimed people last night, or Kthx or something? What was he afraid of?



Wait, so Paul shot the claimed survivor during the night there was no scum kill? LOL jesus christ, this couldn't get any more obvious. HOW AM I THE ONLY ONE CALLING THIS SHIT OUT? This is frustrating as fuck. Don't let Paul win as scum two games in a row. Fucking come on.

VOTE: PAUL

I laid ALL of this out in a post already, way ahead of time. I get you have another game going on, but fucking read. This goes for you too Jessup, Jesus fuck.

Luckily for you dipshits I was planning on full claiming today anyway. I'm tempted not to, because of how fucking horrible your logic is, but I can finally stop playing catch up.

I'm the town 2 shot vigi. I had to clean my gun night 1 to have the ability to use kills later on, so no action. I targeted nobody night 2. I tried to kill Kassius last night. Before you all freak out, let me elaborate.

The shitty caveat to my role is that if I kill a townie with my first kill, I commit suicide the following night. I didn't trust Kassius's claim, and lucky for me he claimed 3rd party. I also made sure he explicitly said he was using a vest last night, which he said shortly after phase change. My kill was obviously unsuccessful, so I am not committing suicide, and I have 1 shot left.

We have a 50:50 chance of lynching scum today, assuming Vehicle isn't fucking us all. If we choose wrong between Wark/PF and e lynch a townie, I'm shooting the other one tonight. So take your pick. Right now I'm going to

Vote KTHX

because of his tenuous (at best) grasp of statistics. The only lynch options until we hear from Beast are me, Wark, and PF. You know my role, so to me its down to these 2. If Vehicle is telling the truth, we have a 100% of killing scum in the next 2 phases. Unless of course we lynch PF and Wark is the godfather, in which case we lynch him tomorrow, but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

It would be really great if Beast watched Kassius last night for some reason and can verify me, but the right move was to watch Willby. Beast, you're up.

I tried to shoot Kassius LAST FUCKING NIGHT. You know, the night that our doctor died? Were either of you here for that? I cleaned my gun night 1, I had to do that first to be able to use it. I didn't use my action night 2, because if I shoot a townie with my first shot, I commit suicide the following night. Kassius claimed 3rd party, and he explicitly said he was going to use a vest last night. For those of you who can't count, that's night 3. I shot him night 3. If he has a vest, great he won't die, I have 1 more shot, and I don't commit suicide. If he doesn't have a vest, it's because he's lying. No townie would lie about being 3rd party, so he'd be scum. Win/win.

I'm not shooting Kassius tonight, not unless someone can give me an ironclad reason to. Vehicle's list is me, Kthx, and PF. If we lynch Kthx and he flips town, I shoot PF tonight. If we lynch PF who flips town, I shoot Kthx tonight. If we lynch either one and they are scum, I probably don't use my action tonight. Keep up, why the fuck are you pushing some bullshit narrative about me shooting the same target as mafia every night? I've shot once. I'm a 2-shot. I get to abstain if I want to. Fuck me, I made it as simple as possible.

The real question, apart from which of the 3 we lynch today, is Beast, who the fuck did you target last night, and why on Earth was it not Willby?

[Jessup]

MB Paul ok .. i've been up all night so not in my best state atm. Thx for clearing it up.

So the no kill night no one even went for willby and Kass used a vest whem scum tried to take him out. So Kass is -2 vests now. MAkes sense.. game is basically wrapped up as long as Beast isn't Godfather or Kass. I got innocent on both.

So really Exalt you should vote Kthx if in fact you are town today, Throw your trap on me tonight. I will investigate you T_P tonight if you do this. Then we can all be on the same page. If he flips innocent. I'll know you were are for real if I survive because scum will want to kill me priority #1.. Its really the best town play imo

[Jessup]

What is Vote Count, Kass, T_P , Me , vehicle ob Kthx? Beast? get ur vote on.. I'm I right about vote? I can't go thru another page of this forum right now until I sleep some lol.

[Jessup]

VC (OFF TOP OF MY HEAD CURRENTLY)

Kthx,- (4 ) Jessup, Kassius, The_PAul, Vehicle

The_PAul- (1) Exalt

[Vehicle]

Yeah Exalt, I'm sure you're going to call me a fuk fuk idiot for this, but your arguments don't make sense and half the time they aren't even based on fact. And your reccomendation of "paul shoot kassius to kill the survivor or himself" rings of scum because, regardless of what happens "99% of the time," Kass hasn't done anything anti-town.

The timeline you're trying to push isn't even how things actually went down. The only thing I will agree with you in that Beast is slowly losing more and more credibility when he's yet to have a successful investigation and refuses to say who he watched.

I am the town psychic, I don't know what to tell those who doubt me but the bandwagon that formed on me when I roleclaimed I think is proof enough. I have 3 names, at least one of which is scum, that is cold hard guaranteed evidence. There is no reason to be voting for anyone but one of those 3, which I guess you realized as you go from pointing the finger from Kass, to PF, to Paul.

Kthx has gone from nothing to vampire hunter to "lol you got me I'm executioner" and I just don't believe any of it. He was absent all game until the heat was on him. My vote stays.

Even if you come up innocent, which I highly doubt you will, then Paul either kill PF at night or he doesn't. And if he doesn't, then we know he's full of shit and lynch him.

Guys like exalt and kthx are trying to muddy the water by throwing out all these alternate scenarios while being full of indignation, but I think town's path to victory is pretty clear (assuming I don't die tonight).

[Vehicle]

Also Exalt please Throw your trap on me tonight. If I survive I can confirm T_P or Vehicle tonight.

Or if you're not scum put the trap on me because I'm likely Mafia Target No. 1 and it seems like Beast has chosen to be the least helpful watcher of all time.

[the_paul]

I will say, something is going on with Beast. He knew who Willby protected night 1, which basically confirmed him as a watcher. But now he won't even answer who he targeted last night. Almost like he lost his ability, which is what happens if you get recruited to a third party, correct?

I don't know for sure, but if there is a 3rd party, my guess is Beast has been recruited. He doesn't want to lie about targeting someone last night and getting exposed by 1 of the 500 claimed town power roles, so he is just not answering. In addition, there is no reason whatsoever to have watched anybody but Willby last night, and we know for a fact he was targeted obviously. Today should still be kthx/PF/me, but this is worth keeping an eye on. And again, this is if and only if there is a 3rd party in the game.

[ixt]

About 4 hours left in phase unless more time is requested. Kthx on chopping block.

[Exalt]

MB Paul ok .. i've been up all night so not in my best state atm. Thx for clearing it up.

So the no kill night no one even went for willby and Kass used a vest whem scum tried to take him out. So Kass is -2 vests now. MAkes sense.. game is basically wrapped up as long as Beast isn't Godfather or Kass. I got innocent on both.

So really Exalt you should vote Kthx if in fact you are town today, Throw your trap on me tonight. I will investigate you T_P tonight if you do this. Then we can all be on the same page. If he flips innocent. I'll know you were are for real if I survive because scum will want to kill me priority #1.. Its really the best town play imo

It doesnt really matter who I vote today when the entire game votes the exact same way. Kthx is fucked regardless of whatever he is. I'm focused on tomorrow in the event that Kthx flips 3rd party and/or theres more than 3 scum.

[Exalt]

Kthx has gone from nothing to vampire hunter to "lol you got me I'm executioner" and I just don't believe any of it. He was absent all game until the heat was on him. My vote stays.

Idgaf who you vote. Kthx played like a jester this whole game, so I'm thinking he's 3rd party. He's not this fucking dumb. Like wtf is a vampire hunter? That sounds just as fake as your role.

[Vehicle]

Idgaf who you vote. Kthx played like a jester this whole game, so I'm thinking he's 3rd party. He's not this fucking dumb. Like wtf is a vampire hunter? That sounds just as fake as your role.

That has legitimately crossed my mind. The jester thing. Vampire Hunter is on the ToS wiki, it just doesn't do what he says it does, and it fit with his claim that there was a third party.

So my hope is that kthx tried to push the vampire hypothesis hard in the round where Apoc got lynched, it didn't work out and now he's basically given up because he doesn't have a good play. He said "lol I won already I'm executioner," but I Googled and that's not how that role works either. So yeah, I'm hoping he's just rolling over to die and isn't jester.

But if he flips vampire hunter, or we find out by other means there is a third-party, Beast and Jessup are my go-tos for being it, Kass being a close third.

If kthx flips town or neutral, paul kills PF. If PF dies and is scum, Jessup is naive or lying and my role is basically confirmed. If paul dies by suicide for targetting PF than Jessup has to be anti-town and we know exactly who to vote for. So honestly kthx is a good lynch all around imo.

[the_paul]

That has legitimately crossed my mind. The jester thing. Vampire Hunter is on the ToS wiki, it just doesn't do what he says it does, and it fit with his claim that there was a third party.

So my hope is that kthx tried to push the vampire hypothesis hard in the round where Apoc got lynched, it didn't work out and now he's basically given up because he doesn't have a good play. He said "lol I won already I'm executioner," but I Googled and that's not how that role works either. So yeah, I'm hoping he's just rolling over to die and isn't jester.

But if he flips vampire hunter, or we find out by other means there is a third-party, Beast and Jessup are my go-tos for being it, Kass being a close third.

If kthx flips town or neutral, paul kills PF. If PF dies and is scum, Jessup is naive or lying and my role is basically confirmed. If paul dies by suicide for targetting PF than Jessup has to be anti-town and we know exactly who to vote for. So honestly kthx is a good lynch all around imo.

Just to interject here, my role specifically states that if I kill a townie on my first shot, then I retire my weapon and commit suicide the following night. Since my first shot went into Kassius's vest (presumably), the suicide part of my role should be off the table. I agree with everything else though

[Jessup]

Guys PF came up innocent.. but GODFATHER will do that AND is bulletproof. Just a reminder.. I don't think T_P can shoot and kill the godfather, godfather needs to be lynched. I'm as unsure who godfather as anyone and my investigation GF is immune to.

[PartyFalcon]

Hi sorry IRL info first: i haven’t caught up reading I thought flip was tomorrow at noon but apparently it’s today? I’m not going to have time to catch up completely until several hours from now. I also didnt see the vote count beyond a summary someone posted recently.

ill vote kthx for the same reasons I posted last night—I’m still down to do kassius instead (again for the reasons I posted last night), tbh I’m not sure why we want kthx /over/ kassius but I have to assume here that it’s been hashed out in some of the posts I haven’t read all through yet, but it could also be that people disagree with my Godfather theory, re: kassius. Feels kinda risky to get kthx since if we’re wrong and there ARE vampires...then what? We’re just screwed? Idk I’ve honestly never played with vampires before and have put off reading more about them since it feels kinda conspiracy theory-y but I’ve been wrong before.