Why I am voting for bush

[Amok]

Nah that's cool Sarien, it wasn't really directed at you, just this thread in general.
And with this fertilised egg being a living thing, is semen considered a living thing too? If so you'd have to be against masturbation and other forms of wasting sperm

[TajaUk]

Abortions, sex before marriage, gays getting married should be a personal decisions, not something you base your political bias on.

Why should you impose your thoughts about who should and shoudlnt be married all becasue your a christian? I hate people like you, who impose your beliefs on how other people should live. How about you live YOUR life like a christian and let others do as they please, afterall god will forgive them for their sins.

I get really worried when I hear people talk behind god, justifying their actions on God.

Its even more amusing that Bush this so called Christian man used to be a alcholic, drink driver, womeniser, draft dodger, corrupt failed business man who got bailed out by the Saudi royal family as the person you want to run your country. Yes a really great god loving man!

God help us all if this fuking idiot gets in power again.

[Amok]

Looks alive to me

[TajaUk]

I didn't feel like reading everything because I'm not in a reading mood. But basically, I'm against gay marriage because I'm Christian. The Bible says that marriage is an institution between a man and woman, and that's what I believe. Gays can still be gays, and that's not my problem, they can burn in hell . I mean, they might not be able to contol their urges, but that doesn't mean they need to act upon them. Like for example, people who molest children. I mean, they like to do that, but does that mean we should make it legal for them just because they want to? And as for abortion, I believe that's wrong too. Again, I am Christian, and I think sex is for marriage, so I won't have to worry about that until I'm married, so I shouldn't need an abortion. The difference between contraception and abortion is that in an abortion the egg has already been fertilized by the sperm and is growing, which means it's alive! Wow! So basically, it's murder. Contraception however, if used correctly, will keep the sperm from fertilizing the egg, thus preventing it from growing.

One day when you start thinking for yourself andl realise this is all bullshit. Its highly amusing you think killing criminals or gays is fine, yet having an abortion is not?

You also have to understand the Catholic faith imposes no form of contraception's, hence why aids will keep spreading across africa, great this faith thing init?

[Pandagirl!]

I don't think killing them is ok. I disagree with Bush on the death penalty thing. But I believe basically what Bush believes, so if I could vote it would be for him. I would definitely not vote for Kerry just because of the abortion thing. Basically I'm basing my vote on one issue which I feel very strongly about (abortion).

[Bioture]

i want bush to win because hes a big furry mascot.

[DoTheFandango]

I like how you haven't heard of seperation of church and state, and how relgion isn't suppose to effect the laws made, passed, or changed in this country.

[Send]

I apologized, and edited my post, what more can I possibly do?
Check the reason for my editing. Because I was an asshole. I stand by that. I was being an asshole, regretted it, apologized and dialed it back.

Wadi, in this instance it's quite cut and dried, not because of personal belief systems. Follow my logic if you will:

Were Pandagirl to say because of whatever reason she does not believe in gay marriage or abortion, so she will never marry a woman, or ever abort a fetus, because she believes it is wrong, and will urge every person she knows that such conduct is the right way to think. What could I say? Bam.. her life, her choice, her freedom. Rock on with whatever works for her.

You go talking about legislation for the aforementioned, you are not projecting your values, you are quite simply binding in legal chains selected groups of people that have as much right to their freedom as you do to yours.

Lay off, it's what she believes in, let her believe what she wants :/

[Bioture]

Lay off, it's what she believes in, let her believe what she wants :/

def. but if you believe that bush is smart then youre sooooooooooo wrong.

[Mythrandir]

I like how you haven't heard of seperation of church and state, and how relgion isn't suppose to effect the laws made, passed, or changed in this country.

That's very true and really important. It's no coincidence that centuries ago Europe began to flourish when the church's absolute power over society had waned.

[wadi]

That's very true and really important. It's no coincidence that centuries ago Europe began to flourish when the church's absolute power over society had waned.

How's left field? Is it nice this time of year?

[Fit of Rage]

I didn't feel like reading everything because I'm not in a reading mood. But basically, I'm against gay marriage because I'm Christian. The Bible says that marriage is an institution between a man and woman, and that's what I believe. Gays can still be gays, and that's not my problem, they can burn in hell . I mean, they might not be able to contol their urges, but that doesn't mean they need to act upon them. Like for example, people who molest children. I mean, they like to do that, but does that mean we should make it legal for them just because they want to? And as for abortion, I believe that's wrong too. Again, I am Christian, and I think sex is for marriage, so I won't have to worry about that until I'm married, so I shouldn't need an abortion. The difference between contraception and abortion is that in an abortion the egg has already been fertilized by the sperm and is growing, which means it's alive! Wow! So basically, it's murder. Contraception however, if used correctly, will keep the sperm from fertilizing the egg, thus preventing it from growing.

Oh this is rich. "Gays can still be gays... they might not be able to control their urges but that doesn't mean they need to act upon them." You treat homosexuality like it's some kind of disorder, like it's some kind of choice that the person makes.

The DSM-IV, if you're not aware, is the primary reference book for psychologists today, and has been revised many times over. The DSM-IV states that:

DSM-IV cannot get far with "unusual" anyway. Consider a two-hour marathon of heterosexual fellatio. Alan Goldman asserts about such an act that its being unusual per se does not make it "abnormal." Something else is required; he proposes that the unusual component must be "the form of the desire itself in order to constitute sexual perversion" (53). This is incompatible with DSM-IV. DSM-IV does not fault homosexual desire, even though it is unusual and defies sexuality's reproductive function, and once heterosexual desire is no longer privileged, to claim that the unusual, nonreproductive desires of klismaphilia and partialism are disordered is unsupportable.

Sexuality is not a choice. Your beliefs don't have anything to do with it. Why can't a person be homosexual and also be a Christian? Because the Bible says it's wrong? So I suppose that would be a sin, right? And according to Christian doctrine everyone sins except... Christ? Is that right? What's the fucking problem here? Even so, times change. Science, logic, and time have unraveled many of the mysteries of our universe and the customs of our traditions. Take for example the time around 1900. It was COMPLETELY unacceptable for a woman to flaunt herself sexually, much less show an ankle in public. These days you can't flip the TV channel without seeing some girl running on the beach in a bikini. The Bible was contructed in full in the years following Christ's death, and this being the case, why wouldn't you consider the Bible to be outdated? This isn't blasphemy because many things of which the Bible mentions are honorable, timeless tenets and morals, such as honoring your father and your mother and do unto your neighbor as yourself. That doesn't mean that marriage has to be the same way.

[Ilya]

I think sex is for marriage, so I won't have to worry about that until I'm married, so I shouldn't need an abortion.

what if its a maaaad ugly baby with like 7 fingers on each hand and a penivagina and 3 eyes that are uneven and missing an ear and the ear that he does have is like on his neck and he has a big thing poking out of his eye and he has a gigantic asshole and he is just plain ugly.

and what if Ms. Cleo said that your baby will be gay when it grows up

i think it would be ok to abort it now.

[Mythrandir]

How's left field? Is it nice this time of year?

huh?

[Jerome Scuggs]

what if its a maaaad ugly baby with like 7 fingers on each hand and a penivagina and 3 eyes that are uneven and missing an ear and the ear that he does have is like on his neck and he has a big thing poking out of his eye and he has a gigantic asshole and he is just plain ugly.

and what if Ms. Cleo said that your baby will be gay when it grows up

i think it would be ok to abort it now.

Hellooooo IlyaZ didn't you get the memo the current trend is selling them on the black market