Why I am voting for bush

[Sarien]

Lay off, it's what she believes in, let her believe what she wants :/

Dude, she's free to believe any and everything she wants, believe that the sky is orange for all I care. But there comes a difference when you switch "beliefs" to "legislation".

Edit: And I also find it amusing how liberals always bash christians for "imposing their thoughts on everyone else." Let's get two things straight.
1. THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED BY CHRISTIANS. If you don't like the way shit is, gtfo!
2. By allowing gay marriage, YOU'RE actually imposing YOUR beliefs on something that had been the same for 200 years.

I KNOW you're only doing this to argue, because it's in your frickin' nature. Nevertheless, I 'm gonna answer anyway.
1:"This country was founded by Christians." One Name of one of my heroes, among the founding fathers: Thomas Paine. A fucking genius.
Feel free to go here: http://www.ushistory.org/paine/ and read about him, especially Age of Reason. You will learn things, I hope.

2: "By allowing gay marriage, YOU'RE actually imposing YOUR beliefs on something that had been the same for 200 years." That's a big negative, chief. Find me a single place that says and means it (not satire or humor) that gay marriage has to be performed in any church. Find me that and I'll concede that is what those people are doing. No, all gay people are asking for is equal observance under the LAW. Not from God, or ministers, or the like. They are people, and it does not matter what kind of adult that they should choose to partner with, if they want to legally bind themselves in a marriage, they should have the option. Equal Rights. Under your scheme, if we should discover hot aliens tomorrow, I couldn't legally marry one? That's fucked and wrong. Time to wake up to a new not so narrowminded consciousness.

[Nickname]

You guys do need to lay off of panda, shes only 14 and theres a reason shes not allowed to vote.

For the record though, if you've got some sort eating disorder, than you've got a mental disability as far as i'm concerned.

[Fit of Rage]

You guys do need to lay off of panda, shes only 14 and theres a reason shes not allowed to vote.

For the record though, if you've got some sort eating disorder, than you've got a mental disability as far as i'm concerned.

Wrong thread dude.

[Pandagirl!]

Lol. I don't have an eating disorder! We did kinda ruin Ilya's thread debating that though. Ooo for dinner I had a muffin and a little bit of Hamburger Helper... but only because my dad made me eat it.

Back on topic. Jerome actually did have some pretty good points though.

[Facetious]

Lol. I don't have an eating disorder! We did kinda ruin Ilya's thread debating that though. Ooo for dinner I had a muffin and a little bit of Hamburger Helper... but only because my dad made me eat it.

What?

[genocidal]

Because I am Christian I know that gay marriage is wrong not just for other Christians but for everyone in the United States. It's wrong because a book that I worship in a building said that men and women get married. God never said it was right for us to be gay, therefore it isn't. Plus some people wrote in that book about how gay people were burned by God because they lived in a city of sin. I believe him. Abortion is wrong too because you have to kill an unborn child that couldn't sustain life on its own. Frankly it's not really a child just a sack of ooze and tubes but since God wants me to tell other women what to do with their bodies (note: THEIR bodies...not a child's body) I support George W. Bush.

WWJD?

Amen.

[Nethila]

I am George Bush...
•I attacked and took over 2 countries.
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•Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.

haha, way to go addy.

Btw, I'm voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger

[bloodzombie]

I'm voting for Bush because:

I hate national forests and parks
I want tax breaks now so that I pass on a nice defecit to my children
I think paralyzed people are funny, and people with alzheimers don't deserve help
The bible teaches me to hate people that aren't like me
Freedom of speach should only apply to people that don't say much.
Someone who repeatedly failed in business can't possibly make a bad president.
I like watching war on tv but I don't think we should have to pay for veterans health problems later.
If my daughter gets pregnant at 14, even if she's raped, I want that baby to live.

[bloodzombie]

the whole "i'm going to vote for anyone who isn't bush. i dont care who, just not bush!" is dangerous and idiotic.

I can see why you'd think that, but at the same time.. I think that Bush is SO bad that Big bird really would make a better president. I've fallen off the kerry bandwagon a bit, but unless he drowns, gets brought back to life with severe brain damage, I'll be voting for him.

I might still vote for him even with the brain damage, depends on how bad it is I guess.

[Jerome Scuggs]

I KNOW you're only doing this to argue, because it's in your frickin' nature. Nevertheless, I 'm gonna answer anyway.
1:"This country was founded by Christians." One Name of one of my heroes, among the founding fathers: Thomas Paine. A fucking genius.
Feel free to go here: http://www.ushistory.org/paine/ and read about him, especially Age of Reason. You will learn things, I hope.

2: "By allowing gay marriage, YOU'RE actually imposing YOUR beliefs on something that had been the same for 200 years." That's a big negative, chief. Find me a single place that says and means it (not satire or humor) that gay marriage has to be performed in any church. Find me that and I'll concede that is what those people are doing. No, all gay people are asking for is equal observance under the LAW. Not from God, or ministers, or the like. They are people, and it does not matter what kind of adult that they should choose to partner with, if they want to legally bind themselves in a marriage, they should have the option. Equal Rights. Under your scheme, if we should discover hot aliens tomorrow, I couldn't legally marry one? That's fucked and wrong. Time to wake up to a new not so narrowminded consciousness.

1. He's a minority he doesn't count, oh, take a gander at a quarter sometime, "in god we trust." Then recite the Pledge. Christian influence.

2. They still have interspecies marriage banned, so we've still got a ways to go before the aliens part, bro :P And what I was saying applied to american laws as well, which were based off of moral issues et cetera, and homosexuality has been considered immoral for who knows how long.

[Squeezer]

I didn't feel like reading everything because I'm not in a reading mood. But basically, I'm against gay marriage because I'm Christian. The Bible says that marriage is an institution between a man and woman, and that's what I believe. Gays can still be gays, and that's not my problem, they can burn in hell . I mean, they might not be able to contol their urges, but that doesn't mean they need to act upon them. Like for example, people who molest children. I mean, they like to do that, but does that mean we should make it legal for them just because they want to? And as for abortion, I believe that's wrong too. Again, I am Christian, and I think sex is for marriage, so I won't have to worry about that until I'm married, so I shouldn't need an abortion. The difference between contraception and abortion is that in an abortion the egg has already been fertilized by the sperm and is growing, which means it's alive! Wow! So basically, it's murder. Contraception however, if used correctly, will keep the sperm from fertilizing the egg, thus preventing it from growing.

PandaGirl go play with ure barbies and let the grown ups talk.....ure the most Hypocritical Christian i have ever met.....Ive gone to Catholic schools my entire life....Ive been taught Christianity by ppl who have devoted their life to it.....Ive read the bible probly more times than anyone who has posted...Not to make assumptions....my point is ive read the bible enough to quote it...see Panda u call ureself a christian cuz u probly read Sodom and Ghommora or some text like that and misinterpreted it as something anti Homosexual....Look Christianity is called Christianity For a reason....Cuz its about JESUS CHRIST....Sodom and Ghommora happens in the old testament....2 or even 3 thousand years before Jesus....Therefore ITS NOT CHRISTIAN.....if u actually follow Jesus' message then u should love all ppl....regardless of sexuality....Race....Religion or whatever else makes ppl different.....By saying that Gay's can burn in hell and that u hate ppl that have abortions.....then claiming ure a christian because of thes ideals u believe in....Ure being highly Hypocritical....and ure using a message from the bible....and maybe not even one from Jesus himself.....to back an Idea that really does not weigh on anything Christian at all....Basically ure using Jesus...the most respected and powerful man ever..... as a puppet to support ure ideas...This is such exploitation of what Jesus truly wanted....See u say that Christians cannot support Murder....yet some of their most regarded Saints killed many people before finally finding Jesus...St. Paul for example....He killed hundereds of Christians before finally seeing and understanding Christ.....and he's one of the most respected saints in Christianity....Basically Panda....ure a confused lil 14 yr old who listens to her ignorant Parents.....ppl who go to church and misinterpret everything as being Anti Something.....u dont Understand that Jesus was not Anit-Anything....He died to save u and all u can do to repay him is use his name to back ure beliefs? Is that really what Jesus wanted? No it isnt....he wanted humans to love each other....and all u have done is used him to back ure point....so touche u hypocrit.....until u really understand Jesus' true message....plz do not come into this message board waving Christianity around as ure Safe Gaurd.....and plz dont use Jesus as ure little puppet

U 14 year olds......u think u have it all figured out....and im not appologizing and being nice for this.....when i was fourteen i knew enough not to say that "Gays should burn in hell" for solely being Gay

And still u ppl think ure vote actually counts.....have u never heard of the electoral College? They decide the presidency not u......If u wanna vote thats ure choice but plz understand.....ure vote truly doesnt decide the president.....If it did Al Gore would be president......Not George Bush.....not saying that would be better or worse.....but if we were a true democracy thats how it would be

[za gophar]

hey if someone wants to be immoral its not your right to stop them unless they are harming someone else while doing so. as 311 said "do what thou wilt should be the whole of the law / until you violate the rights of another"

i bet 99 out of 100 people who use the bible as an excuse to stop gay marriage masturbate.

[Squeezer]

hey if someone wants to be immoral its not your right to stop them unless they are harming someone else while doing so. as 311 said "do what thou wilt should be the whole of the law / until you violate the rights of another"

i bet 99 out of 100 people who use the bible as an excuse to stop gay marriage masturbate.

Saying Gays can burn in hell is harming Gays

[za gophar]

did i say gays can burn in hell?

edit: nevermind you are arguing with panda not me

PandaGirl go play with ure barbies and let the grown ups talk.....ure the most Hypocritical Christian i have ever met.....Ive gone to Catholic schools my entire life....Ive been taught Christianity by ppl who have devoted their life to it.....Ive read the bible probly more times than anyone who has posted...Not to make assumptions....my point is ive read the bible enough to quote it...see Panda u call ureself a christian cuz u probly read Sodom and Ghommora or some text like that and misinterpreted it as something anti Homosexual....Look Christianity is called Christianity For a reason....Cuz its about JESUS CHRIST....Sodom and Ghommora happens in the old testament....2 or even 3 thousand years before Jesus....Therefore ITS NOT CHRISTIAN.....if u actually follow Jesus' message then u should love all ppl....regardless of sexuality....Race....Religion or whatever else makes ppl different.....By saying that Gay's can burn in hell and that u hate ppl that have abortions.....then claiming ure a christian because of thes ideals u believe in....Ure being highly Hypocritical....and ure using a message from the bible....and maybe not even one from Jesus himself.....to back an Idea that really does not weigh on anything Christian at all....Basically ure using Jesus...the most respected and powerful man ever..... as a puppet to support ure ideas...This is such exploitation of what Jesus truly wanted....See u say that Christians cannot support Murder....yet some of their most regarded Saints killed many people before finally finding Jesus...St. Paul for example....He killed hundereds of Christians before finally seeing and understanding Christ.....and he's one of the most respected saints in Christianity....Basically Panda....ure a confused lil 14 yr old who listens to her ignorant Parents.....ppl who go to church and misinterpret everything as being Anti Something.....u dont Understand that Jesus was not Anit-Anything....He died to save u and all u can do to repay him is use his name to back ure beliefs? Is that really what Jesus wanted? No it isnt....he wanted humans to love each other....and all u have done is used him to back ure point....so touche u hypocrit.....until u really understand Jesus' true message....plz do not come into this message board waving Christianity around as ure Safe Gaurd.....and plz dont use Jesus as ure little puppet

although difficult to read you had some good points

[Squeezer]

did i say gays can burn in hell?

No but Pandagirl did and u backed her.....look mate i got nuthin against ya i like me a lil gopher now and then and thx....its fun to argue when ppl support ure ideas and say they were good