American Elections '08

[inaphyt]

America the land of freedom... please

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Looking at your casualty numbers from WW2, it just tells me you're bad at war. If you were like the US you would have just used a nuke to save time and lives.

Izor, you fucktard, Think about what a nuke would do? It would 1) Kill more allies then enemies. 2) Create a barren wasteland of France that would kill even MORE allies.

Save lives my ass. Now get your head out of yours.

This thread has gotten a little off topic, But then again, it seems to have turned into an USA versus WORLD thread.

[PaulOakenfold]

Wouldn't it be amazing if all your voters could vote for any of those candidates above? I suspect the results would turn out to be a hellofa lot different.

Amazingly chaotic.

[Eeks]

Not comprehensive:

Republicans (claim to be conservative or right-wing)
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Rudolph Giuliani - Front-man for insane neoconservative agenda (want more wars of aggression and corruption scandals? look no further). Former mayor of nyc. "Hero" of 9/11 (simply because he was there.) The media laps up his toe-lint like there's no tomorrow. Could very well be the next Hitler if wasn't such an incompetent stooge (sound familiar?).

Mitt Romney - A corporate billboard who also happens to be Mormon. Claimed to pull over his car and 'weep' when he had found out that his church allowed blacks in a few decades ago. ahahaha. The media eats his dung though sometimes fixates on his Mormonism as a reason why he can't be president.

Mike Huckabee - Hates evolution, faggots, and probably you. Backed by radical fundamentalist christians (aka evangelicals.) Not sure but his support seems more grassroots than the previous two. More ignored by the media, but lately has featured more prominently. Will do everything in his power to bring about the apocalypse if he wins anything.

Ron Paul - Anti-establishment libertarian that is universally ignored and treated condescendingly by the media. Monetarily ahead of or on-par with the others, though that doesn't mean anything. Support is mostly grassroots, comes from many different kinds of people. Will be assassinated if he wins anything.

Democrats (claim to be liberal or left-wing)
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Hillary Clinton - Front-woman for insane neoconservative agenda (want more wars of aggression and corruption scandals? look no further). Former (err..current) wife of Bill Clinton. "Heroine/Villainess" of the 90's (simply because she was there.) The media laps up her toe-lint like there's no tomorrow. People who call themselves "conservatives" universally hate her for some unspecified reason. Has support from many females and college students probably.

Barack Obama - Token black guy who actually seems to be doing OK. Slightly less offensive than Hillary Clinton, still your typical, bland, pandering politician. Has support from many college students probably.

John Edwards - Has made many interesting statements criticizing the media establishment. Bland, pandering politician. More strongly Christian than the previous two I think.

Dennis Kuicinich - Anti-establishment, ignored and ridiculed by the media. Doing poorly in the polls and monetarily. Frequently calls for impeachment of Cheney and Bush. Has a hot wife. Democrats secretly wish they could vote for him, but are too whipped by the media/afraid of electing someone that all americans won't vote for. (self-limiting groupthink)

Wouldn't it be amazing if all your voters could vote for any of those candidates above? I suspect the results would turn out to be a hellofa lot different.

[Money]

SO WHO ARE THE CANADIANS VOTING FOR?f

[Kolar]

You have a total of 61 Days, 12 Hours before you get a reply back Zz.

Merry fucking Christmas Trench Wars Forum.

[Zerzera]

I forgot to add that I'm dating a military girl. She's fucking stupid, but well, she is hot.

[Zerzera]

We didnt do anything to provoke 911 (please dont start this argument in response to this statement either, as you know it was a low blow).

Then don't mention it. It's stupid. If an attack of a few radicals does you so much damage and you can't stop them, then you should know you can't 'win' this.

You cant call it an invasion, but it is an act of war that needs to be dealt with to ensure the safety of our people. I dont see a way to stop future attacks other than to seek and destroy. By your logic, creating loss will just prolong the cycle as habeeb's 40 sons will grow up hating america since we killed their father, but it doesnt matter because if they get too rowdy and want to do anything about it we will just put them down like a stray mutt. Eventually, habeebs grandsons or great grandsons will realize that maybe they should cooperate with us. Evolution is a great thing

It is funny that your next argument will be about nazi Germany!
I don't know how to respond to this, it just shows a sick mind. And if people like your "Habeeb" had my mindset, you had nothing to worry. But the problem is that they think the same as you do.
And you are doing a real lousy job in putting down these Habeebs, in Afghanistan they are laughing at you. Russia is laughing at you. You are losing yet another war, but we knew that before you invaded. The whole attack took place because you got attacked by a handful of radicals, and you didn't know how to deal with that, other than "striking back". Some strike boy, an half-assed invasion, and now you are holding only half the country.
What's worse, you are letting inferiour countries, like the Netherlands and Australia control parts of it, you know that we suck at holding down Habeebs, so what is the use of that? Can't you deal with it yourself big guy? Maybe you should go down there and fix things Izor.

You say that no one would invade a peaceful United States, but not too long ago Germany was invading many peaceful European countries. Perhaps you dont understand human nature? Or maybe you'll just rely on us to bail you out again when someone invades you. Thats what separates our countries. Our citizens dont claim internet addiction to get out of military service. We're willing to do whats necessary to make our world a better place, and we really dont care what the rest of the world thinks about it, because in the end all they're doing is whining at us to stop.

First, we don't have military service. I see what you tried to do in your arguments, but in the end you are just showing that your mindset is the same as that of the leaders of Germany in the forties. The problem is, there was an agreement back then, that they broke. Noone could hold them to the agreement, but that doesn't mean they should break it.
You say that the US created the UN, that's probably the reason why it fails then..

Cops; don't get so worked up about it, lol. It's just an argument with a soldier. If he would agree with you he'd have to quit his job and he would never get a job like this ever again. It's funny to see his head grow. He has to believe he's part of something bigger.

[Eeks]

You really need to split up your 2 parties or get at least 2 more. :\

[Cops]

The UN isnt important, because no one has any fear of what will happen if they dont adhere to UN laws. Looking back at my posts, thats exactly what I've said the whole time. And as a kicker, even if the UN wanted to punish the US, we could always cut our funding for it and it would go away, unless the rest of the world wants to actually contribute money to such a useless body.

Does that make it right, no. Just because I can do something does not always make it a good idea. Jesus Christ, why am I still trying. Done. afk hitting the aspirin bottle.

[PaulOakenfold]

Spot on.

[Vatican Assassin]

hahahahahaha

this thread sucks so much paul has to pull up one of his old jokes to laugh at.

[Izor]

Unless you attack a real point or argue why America should not be held up to any standard or why The U.N isn't important I'm fucking done with this thread, I totally understand why most people saw the long buillshit battle that would go on with Izor and just said 'fuck it, he's a) dumb b) misinformed. Peace.

The UN isnt important, because no one has any fear of what will happen if they dont adhere to UN laws. Looking back at my posts, thats exactly what I've said the whole time. And as a kicker, even if the UN wanted to punish the US, we could always cut our funding for it and it would go away, unless the rest of the world wants to actually contribute money to such a useless body.

[PaulOakenfold]

Trench Wars General Discussion, proving once again it cannot hold an intelligent conversation.

I was actually going to contribute to this too because I HAVE been following it. Wow do you guys suck.

hahahahahaha

[Fit of Rage]

I never said I liked anything about the war on terrorism Iraq bullshit, or anything like that... no one WANTS to go there

my point was that your telling izor you hope he dies over there just because he is going, like he has a choice or something? THATS what im taking offense to.

I guess my point, which I might not have stated outright, was that going into the military is a choice for some people ('I want to serve my country!' etc), whereas for others it's the only realistic job opportunity that might offer them a future beyond 7-11 or McDonald's. Some people, like my father, recognized that and I'd say I grew up in a pretty good home because of it.

Those who are, to say, "stuck" with the military as their career may not necessarily agree with the policies of those in power but are again "stuck" with cleaning up the mess (Lebanon, Iraq, etc). It sounds to me, however, that Izor is not in that camp, and prefers waving the flag and bolstering his president and job title. If it was a choice for him, as I suspect it was, to valiantly "serve his country" then all I can say is good for him, and hopefully he believes in the cause in Iraq, even though I and apparently a majority of other Americans do not.