American Elections '08

[HeavenSent]

the exact same quote you and I have are taken from wikipedia.

I don't like wikipedia. I don't use wikipedia. It's a wickedpedia for socialist think pools. It says whatever the people want it to say, which isn't always true.

http://www.councilonforeignrelations.net

There now, rant on that. :P

[Cops]

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all History. Its purpose is to destroy the United States."
John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all History. Its' purpose is to destroy the United States." He supported racial segregation and opposed civil rights legislation.

It's not like I had to do more than two minutes work to find this, the exact same quote you and I have are taken from wikipedia. The only differences is I included the line after the two you and I boastfully showed.

[Epinephrine]

Do you seriously think it's black or white? Like, a country must either have military bases in every single country and invade someone whenever they feel threatened - or, they erect giant iron walls and noone ever hears from them... again?

Because what would you consider Canada? Your country is obviously involved in international affairs, but it only really engages in action when defending itself legitimately. Paul's policies would, ironically, shape up to be very Canadian. How "closed off".

It's true, Ron Paul stands for Canada's values... aside for the fact that his policies are the exact opposite of what we stand for in Canada :fear:

[Galleleo]

Well, if those 2 men said it, it must be true!

[HeavenSent]

"The United Nations is the greatest fraud in all History. Its purpose is to destroy the United States."
John E. Rankin, U.S. Congressman
"The Trilateral Commission is internation and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical."
Sen. Barry Goldwater 1979 -With No Apologies

[Cops]

Do you seriously think it's black or white? Like, a country must either have military bases in every single country and invade someone whenever they feel threatened - or, they erect giant iron walls and noone ever hears from them... again?

Obviously not. Closing your doors to talking and engaging with countries regardless if they're fried or foes can be legitimately detrimental. Ron Paul wants to remove his country from the UN because 'it can force them to go to war', which is complete bullshit since America can just veto stuff. The UN would turn to shit if America pulled out, who would be on the security council? Anything good that comes of the UN would be lost. Any lines of communication countries were building to be more diplomatic would be lost.

Because what would you consider Canada? Your country is obviously involved in international affairs, but it only really engages in action when defending itself legitimately. Paul's policies would, ironically, shape up to be very Canadian. How "closed off".

- Crisis in Yemen, the HMCS Toronto was the first NATO ship to respond

- Korean War, we helped Sol from being taken over. Canada has a rich military history, we gained respect for a strong commitment and ability to do things other militaries could not.

- Canadian Troops in Afghanistan, we'll probably be taking over the campaign this year

These three actions were not done to defend ourselves, Canada is involved in MANY humanitarian missions, we might not be the biggest army or the best but are commitment to people is evident, and all it takes to realize this is a history book. Canada's military diminished over the past twenty years but we've started to shape it up a bit, we're getting bigger, and better. Although our military is used for missions that involve saving lives, not taking over foreign soil. People hardly see what we actually do because unless we invade a country or go to war we're hardly seen as a military presence. There's Canadians dying in the middle east just like Americans, to deny this and say that Canada only asserts itself to things that protect itself is a slap in the face to all my countrymen who are dying in the middle east alongside their American brothers.

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Ron paul censored you say? Whats next? Clinton doing the chicken dance?

[Chao.]

Oh goody, Fox News is now completely ignoring RP and trying to exclude him from debates while still inviting the likes of Thompson. I can't wait to hear their reasoning.

[Jerome Scuggs]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more scared I get.

Closing off communication and not being part of an international community will not make things better.

Do you seriously think it's black or white? Like, a country must either have military bases in every single country and invade someone whenever they feel threatened - or, they erect giant iron walls and noone ever hears from them... again?

Because what would you consider Canada? Your country is obviously involved in international affairs, but it only really engages in action when defending itself legitimately. Paul's policies would, ironically, shape up to be very Canadian. How "closed off".

[Cops]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more scared I get.

Closing off communication and not being part of an international community will not make things better.

[D1st0rt]

The more I read about Ron Paul, the more excited I get. I don't agree 100% with him on things, but I see that as my own inconsistency across different policies.

[Kolar]

For those who aren't American trying to tell those here who they should or shouldn't be voting for you have no right to try and dictate what the policy of this country should be, and you'll be talking to a brick wall because ultimately people will be voting for their own best interests not what benefits someone on the other side of the world. Foreign policy is only 5 to 10% of the politics equation in almost all countries. If America were leaders of the free world it'd be a different matter, but as they've already said before they're only part of the puzzle. Not representative of the whole.

I think we have to acknowledge that this board is not closed off to only Americans. Just because I live outside of the United States and I'm not an American citizen doesn't mean I can't have or express an opinion concerning it. Being a super power and the "leader" of the West, much of the policies and laws coming from the US effects many of us, American, Canadian, European and the rest of the world. I don't consider myself or anyone here to be dictating or directing people to vote [or not to vote] for any candidate, I believe all political opinions and discussion are valid as long as they at a fundamental level show respect in kind.

[Cops]

Dang, the only reference to any of the candidates on this page is a freaking quote from Louis.

You've got to give me some credit, it was hard to say anything about the candidates while trying to make Izor understand that people do not have to be American to have an opinion on foreign elections, especially Canadians, consider we're their fucking neighbors. Taking an interest in foreign politics should not be viewed as a 'bad thing'. I'm not a big fan of anyone on the Republican side, Ron Paul is the most sincere politician I have seen yet, that does not mean he deserves to be president or that he would be a good one. I'm still hoping for an Obama victory, hill-dog scares me.

Edwards is swine who rides the religious card, claims he is not like most politicans but he is exactly like most politicians.

Guiliani has reportedly used cop cars as taxis for his girlfriend. He's like the hybrid of a liberal and conservative, people question his integrity running Republican which conflicts his previous political views. He's making a dash for the white house on nothing but 9/11. He does speak to a lot of economical conservatives that have more left wing social views. I just think the guys a cunt bag, otherwise I might consider voting for him.

McCain is your average candidate, he was a POW who has a lot of experience in politics but he's got little definable qualities that actually make him stand out. McCain would win this if he had a personality, it's not like he speaks to the people. I enjoy watching him on TV and seeing his views on different topics but he clearly had a big push at the start of his campaign and now it's diminishing.

Ron Paul is the most out-spoken politican who promises change and prosperity and power shifting from federal level more to state level. I fear his reclusiveness, and a lack of interest in things such as the UNEF or any interest in the UN. I also thing his views on free markets is bold and pretentious. He is the most likable guy but he is also the most radical, would I put any stalk on how his presidency would pan out? Hell no.

Obama seems to want to make reasonable changes that seek to clear out a lot of bureaucracy surrounding politics. Anyone joining his campaign cannot have worked for a lobbyist two years prior or after being in his administration. Obama does not take money from lobbyists and relies heavily on the a wide base of supporters. He seems like one of the most intelligent and capable politicians running for president.

Hill-Dog takes lobbyist money but says she wont allow this to affect her judgment, they paid for your campaign of course you're going to help them out. She seems to be riding coat-tails and playing off the fact that she's a women, her issues and plans for America or less than mediocre, she hasn't promised anything worth mentioning yet she still might win the democratic seat which is beyond me.

[GuruMeditation]

Dang, the only reference to any of the candidates on this page is a freaking quote from Louis.

Who will I be voting for over here? No one, because I'm not American. I came over here, I work over here, but I am not American and do not salute the flag. Therefore I should not have the right to vote into power the people who control those who call this country home.

For those who aren't American trying to tell those here who they should or shouldn't be voting for you have no right to try and dictate what the policy of this country should be, and you'll be talking to a brick wall because ultimately people will be voting for their own best interests not what benefits someone on the other side of the world. Foreign policy is only 5 to 10% of the politics equation in almost all countries. If America were leaders of the free world it'd be a different matter, but as they've already said before they're only part of the puzzle. Not representative of the whole.

Spend more time working on making your own countries better. This one is too broken to be worth the effort.

[PaulOakenfold]

America the land of freedom... please

inaphyt a unique and beautiful snowflake... please