Elim 2.0 Discussion

[EvilDarkElf]

What happened to the elim beta anyway, and how does Spacely have # 1 rank with such a shitty ratio of kill/deaths

i think the new ranks go by winning and losing elim like it should be. kill/death ratio shouldnt matter in elim ranking because it has nothing to do with winning elim. i have never understood how people can goto elim get fed some kills then spec for rec and have never actually won an elim but they can still be ranked #1 in elim rankings.

[milosh]

Elimination beta testing has been taken down until further notice. I have a lot to say but no time to post it, so bear with me until I have some free time.

[Sirius]

What happened to the elim beta anyway, and how does Spacely have # 1 rank with such a shitty ratio of kill/deaths

[Galaxy Turbo]

A streak is a goddamn streak! WTF?! "Doesn't reflect skill" -THAT'S BS. IF YOU DON'T DIE AND GET A SHITLOAD OF KILLS IN ANY FUCKING SHIP THAT'S CALLED A FUCKING GODDAMN "STREAK". PERIOD. END. OF. DISCUSSION. ASSHOLES.


Oh and his solution for F2 is a second scoreboard that shows the stats of each participating elim match player such as that in the TWD/L matches.


P.S.
15-0 IN 8 DIFFERENT SHIPS ANYWHERE ON THE FUCKING MAP IS A FUCKING 15-0 STREAK.

I think we know this already? What I've been saying is that it SHOULD be respective towards each ship, not that it isn't a streak when you try 8 different ships. It should be cut between games so there is more competition for the current game. I don't give a shit who got 35-0 or something the last game anymore, because that was LAST game.

I'd suggest either ending the count between games, or incorporate a system that praises people for total streak/current game streak when you check a players stats, if that's what they care about so much. Personally I don't, but you know how people are kinda crying about it right now.

[Money]

laff

[EvilDarkElf]

Spacely wanted me to say theres a bug where his streaks dissappeared for win streak and kill streak after he won a game

he had

TWBot1> === Player: 'Spacely' Rank: #1 Rating: 1258 ===
TWBot1> Kills: 80 Deaths: 52 Ratio: (153.85%) AIM:24.17% CKS:1 BKS:13 CWS:7 BWS:0
TWBot1> Games Won: 8 Games Played: 11 Win Ratio: 72.73

then won a game and it went

TWBot1> === Player: 'Spacely' Rank: #1 Rating: 1282 ===
TWBot1> Kills: 89 Deaths: 55 Ratio: (161.82%) AIM:23.92% CKS:4 BKS:4 CWS:1 BWS:0
TWBot1> Games Won: 9 Games Played: 12 Win Ratio: 75

*EDIT*

Vash's win streak is messed up if you rank him he won 3 games and played 3 games but his CWS is 1 and BWS is 0

A streak is a goddamn streak! WTF?! "Doesn't reflect skill" -THAT'S BS. IF YOU DON'T DIE AND GET A SHITLOAD OF KILLS IN ANY FUCKING SHIP THAT'S CALLED A FUCKING GODDAMN "STREAK". PERIOD. END. OF. DISCUSSION. ASSHOLES.


Oh and his solution for F2 is a second scoreboard that shows the stats of each participating elim match player such as that in the TWD/L matches.


P.S.
15-0 IN 8 DIFFERENT SHIPS ANYWHERE ON THE FUCKING MAP IS A FUCKING 15-0 STREAK.

Is this the elimbeta topic?


Please change the bot message when to choose the gametype

now:
Warbird 1 - ... 2 - ... 3



should be:

1 warbird - 2 ... - 3 ...

[riske]

If youre talking to me, no. The streak for belim and the free for all area should be 2 different ones.

However I dont even know if that's how it is now, because everytime I log on all the idiots are still in ?go javs.

[PureOwnage]

So basically you guys want to be able to get a kill, spec, get a kill, spec, get a kill spec. So you can have your name as best streak of the session?

Just asking.

[riske]

A streak is a streak. It doesnt say a streak for x ship, it shouldnt matter which ship it is. If you can win jav to 10 without dien, then win shark to 3 without dien, why shouldnt you be recognized as going 13-0? As long as the streaks are seperate for the elim, and the free play area, it shouldnt matter. Its also more impressive if you can keep a streak alive in back to back games with a different ship each time.

So if you have a good streak in jav games, that means you should never be able to play any other ships in fear of losing the streak? That obviously doesnt make sense. And it'd be a bit ridiculous to have a different streak count for each ship..

[dee]

I agree that the F2 should be what is used to keep track of kills/deaths because it's so much easier to use. Althought I'm curious to know what milosh's solution for the F2 is.

[Galaxy Turbo]

As for streaks, I hope you realize it took extra coding for me to put in the continuation of streaks. It was intended to be a feature and is not the result of laziness. However, I can remove it if desired or I can erase streaks if the ship type changes over rounds. I'd appreciate more feedback on that.

I'd agree with continuation of streaks if ship type was the same, but when it changes and continues, that's what the problem is.

Whilst being open to other solutions, and we welcome your efforts, I do think the F2 menu keeps it simple and clean, being able to log the total kills and deaths would be much more beneficial.

[RednaZ]

I have confidence that you will like my solution even more than the F2 menu.

No no no no no, F2 is perfect, it needs no solutions. Save yourself time and energy and leave the use of F2 to F2.

[milosh]

Thank you all for your replies and suggestions. I will attempt to find a happy medium for everyone. My only request is this... CALM DOWN. Seriously so many people are getting extremely worked up and whining up a storm. I log on and get 8 ?messages saying how terrible the new elim is.

First off, this isn't the new elim yet... hence the word 'beta'. It's still in testing and will undergo a lot of changes until it is stable. Secondly, if you don't like elim tell me why and please have some patience while I try to fix that for you. I understand I won't be able to please everyone but trust that I will try to. To the general public: I understand no one likes the !wl/!rec part of the new elim and I agree that a long-standing record in warbirds isn't as significant as in javs. Please have some patience while I create a solution for this very important problem. I have confidence that you will like my solution even more than the F2 menu.

As for streaks, I hope you realize it took extra coding for me to put in the continuation of streaks. It was intended to be a feature and is not the result of laziness. However, I can remove it if desired or I can erase streaks if the ship type changes over rounds. I'd appreciate more feedback on that.