Mafia: What a time to be alive!

[Missa]

Eh, like I said. Either way, you're going to be dead now either on this day or the next unless everyone pulls and votes for someone else. And AGAIN I will say, since I'm fairly certain that you and ixt are mafia, that will only mean good things for the remaining town players.

Exchanging one me for two of you, I can be okay with that if I have to be. But you KNOW you're gonna die either way, now.

[Voth]

Not going to try to split that apart into separate quotes on mobile, so I'll try to address that in the least disorganized way I can manage.
I'm conflicted on your claim. Here's why I dont believe it:
For there to be a psychiatrist, there has to be a serial killer. I dont think there is a SK in this game as we havent had 2 night kills yet.
The extra abilities makes it more believable, but like above, I dont believe we have a paranoid cop.
Psychiatrist is a pretty complicated mechanic, and I dont think we are playing a particularly complicated game.
Why not target someone night 1? The mafia knowing thing isnt much of a deterrent. So what, they know you're town...
You think Missa is the sk?
You've had suspicions of zeebu since early game, but you havent targetted him?
It's a fairly desperate claim. Not something that will get counter claimed, not something necessary to town. You've basically claimed VT but you're special and might be important.

Reasons I actually do believe you:
It's not impossible. Games can be wild on this forum. You've provided a lot of details and that makes it more believable.
You've brought up some good points about Missa. I dont think anyone is convinced missa is town.
I'm not convinced my lead is reliable. Sketchy night 1 results make me think maybe this is an off the wall claim intended to deceive. To be more specific, this tracker claims soilderz didnt go anywhere n1, which isnt how that should have worked.

I'm not mayor this game, I'd like some takez

I agree, the lack of 2 nightkills confuses me as well. I do not think Missa is SK anymore, otherwise I would have cured her last night. I think she is scum who was notified that I tried to cure her, and now is moving to lynch a town power role.

I believe that night 1, mafia kill was thwarted somehow (probably field roleblock). Night 2 I believe they targetted you, and as you say you protected yourself.

I think it is entirely possible that both kills from night 1 and night 2 were serial killer kills, and mafia has been batting 0.00%. It makes no sense to have my role in the game without an SK in the game... it is traditionally used for SKs. The paranoid cop addition is kind of sweet, though I'm not sure if that exists in the game or not.

I didn't target anyone night 1 because I didn't want to target a mafia and expose myself so early. I did not target zeebu because I feel that his calling out of a possible third party means that he may be mafia and his nightkills keep not working (yet nightkills are still happening, just not mafia's). And if that hunch was right, I would have been notifying mafia of who I am, which it looks like I did last night with Missa anyway.

[Voth]

If I was notified, why would I have made that mistake, then? Wouldn't I have known how it worked if I received this mysterious notification? If I thought you knew who I was, I would not try out of the blue to start up a wagon on you when I could play it under the radar another day and off someone else. I'm still not exactly sure wtf is it you're claiming I'm supposed to know.

I'm not fretting. I'm actually home and trying to keep up with the game a bit more so you guys quit bitching about me lurking and looking "scummy." You bitch when I don't post, you bitch when I do post. I'll let you keep digging your own grave. Clearly I'm not the only person that felt a need to vote for you. I feel like a smarter play would've been to throw ixt under the bus because that is something a few of us have reason to believe already. Unless, of course, ixt is your mafia buddy, which it just keeps looking more and more like.

You're talking about fake news to lynch a townie when you're posting an extravagant story that I was supposed to be moderately in the loop on but clearly have no idea what you're talking about due to not receiving this mysterious notification. I would've looked into that a bit more. This is all news to me, man. Plus, you either die on this day (current votes) or the next (when I turn up town), so even if I go down, you're going, too. And if you turn up mafia, which a few of us already have reason to believe you are, ixt will probably follow shortly behind.

I feel like even if you manage to convince people this is true and I die over this, it's going to set helpful things in motion for everyone else once you're out. You're literally going to die either way unless everyone decides to vote someone else right now.

I don't get it. Either you really are dumb or you're just playing dumb to try to deflect what I'm saying. Here is how it breaks down:

I can target one player per night to prescribe anti-psychotic medication.
If it is a townie, and it is a paranoid cop, I can make him/her sane.
If it is a SK, I cure him and make him vanilla townie.
If it is a mafia member, there is no effect, but they are notified that I targetted them.

The point being that you would not have known that I was informed of this at the start of this game. Since you do not know that, the smart mafia move (I know, because it is what I would do in your shoes), is to make up a lie that will get me lynched. A lie, say, like a tracker following me to visit field the night before.

Missa, it's you or me. I know your scum buddies are going to back you up, and I'm pretty sure midoent flying in for a bandwagon vote with no explanation is one of them.

I am imploring town to reconsider this and lynch Missa today. When she flips scum, we have other players to move onto.

[Missa]

If I was notified, why would I have made that mistake, then? Wouldn't I have known how it worked if I received this mysterious notification? If I thought you knew who I was, I would not try out of the blue to start up a wagon on you when I could play it under the radar another day and off someone else. I'm still not exactly sure wtf is it you're claiming I'm supposed to know.

I'm not fretting. I'm actually home and trying to keep up with the game a bit more so you guys quit bitching about me lurking and looking "scummy." You bitch when I don't post, you bitch when I do post. I'll let you keep digging your own grave. Clearly I'm not the only person that felt a need to vote for you. I feel like a smarter play would've been to throw ixt under the bus because that is something a few of us have reason to believe already. Unless, of course, ixt is your mafia buddy, which it just keeps looking more and more like.

You're talking about fake news to lynch a townie when you're posting an extravagant story that I was supposed to be moderately in the loop on but clearly have no idea what you're talking about due to not receiving this mysterious notification. I would've looked into that a bit more. This is all news to me, man. Plus, you either die on this day (current votes) or the next (when I turn up town), so even if I go down, you're going, too. And if you turn up mafia, which a few of us already have reason to believe you are, ixt will probably follow shortly behind.

I feel like even if you manage to convince people this is true and I die over this, it's going to set helpful things in motion for everyone else once you're out. You're literally going to die either way unless everyone decides to vote someone else right now.

[WillBy]

Not going to try to split that apart into separate quotes on mobile, so I'll try to address that in the least disorganized way I can manage.
I'm conflicted on your claim. Here's why I dont believe it:
For there to be a psychiatrist, there has to be a serial killer. I dont think there is a SK in this game as we havent had 2 night kills yet.
The extra abilities makes it more believable, but like above, I dont believe we have a paranoid cop.
Psychiatrist is a pretty complicated mechanic, and I dont think we are playing a particularly complicated game.
Why not target someone night 1? The mafia knowing thing isnt much of a deterrent. So what, they know you're town...
You think Missa is the sk?
You've had suspicions of zeebu since early game, but you havent targetted him?
It's a fairly desperate claim. Not something that will get counter claimed, not something necessary to town. You've basically claimed VT but you're special and might be important.

Reasons I actually do believe you:
It's not impossible. Games can be wild on this forum. You've provided a lot of details and that makes it more believable.
You've brought up some good points about Missa. I dont think anyone is convinced missa is town.
I'm not convinced my lead is reliable. Sketchy night 1 results make me think maybe this is an off the wall claim intended to deceive. To be more specific, this tracker claims soilderz didnt go anywhere n1, which isnt how that should have worked.

I'm not mayor this game, I'd like some takez

[Voth]

Mido is suspect, for sure, but you're (Voth) like 100% panic posting frantically now, which also makes you seem guiltier. Also, tying into you possibly being the godfather theory, if anyone investigated you, you'd come back innocent -- So yeah, sure, they'll trust you and tell you who they are so you can use your super ultra cool medicine on them, right? That seems a little basic, don't you think?

LOL? You are so scummy. Of course, if you investigate any godfather, they come back innocent. But what evidence do you have to support that? Or is this just more fearmongering and fake news (LOL) intended to lynch a town power role? Albeit, not a huge power, but an easy one to lynch.

[Voth]

Missa, read back. If I target a mafia player, you are notified of it, but you do not know that I was told
in my role PM that if I target a mafia player, they are notified of it. That means that of course you would come out and make stories up about me to lynch me, because I obviously have a night role.

also, it is really interesting how you post a reply
to this within minutes, when no one has been able to get you to say a damn thing all game. Fretting now are we? Want to make sure the big con game works? Even your sudden spike in activity in conjunction with this hoax is scummy.

[Missa]

Mido is suspect, for sure, but you're (Voth) like 100% panic posting frantically now, which also makes you seem guiltier. Also, tying into you possibly being the godfather theory, if anyone investigated you, you'd come back innocent -- So yeah, sure, they'll trust you and tell you who they are so you can use your super ultra cool medicine on them, right? That seems a little basic, don't you think?

[Missa]

That's a wonderful tale! Why would I go after you guns blazing if I was mafia and I thought you knew for sure? Wouldn't you just tell everyone, which would get me lynched? Wouldn't the smart move for me to have been jump on the Rodney train and save my own ass? I'm sorta dumb, but not really that dumb. This seems like an obvious super out there story to save your own butt. Which I don't blame you for, because that's the point of the game, but I think you picked the wrong person to try to throw under the bus in your place. I dunno. Guess we'll see. I have reason to believe either you or ixt are the godfather, but perhaps WillBy has a little more info to share?

I have been going after ixt since the first day when he tried baiting out roles. To which he has STILL. NOT. ADDRESSED. THAT. And my reason for being weirded out about you was because of your obvious switch to save him at the last minute. AND I wanted to lynch ixt first, but as I mentioned, people seem to have reason to doubt you so since I feel you are both mafia butt buddies, voting for the person I think others will also vote for seemed productive.

AND if I was mafia, why would I be all over ixt's nuts over trying to bait out power roles? I would be sweeping it under the rug like the rest of the mafia is trying to do rather than drawing attention to an obviously stupid move.

But uh, "If missa does not flip scum, lynch me tomorrow." You sure you want to stand by that?

[Voth]

Also just wanted to throw out that midoent jumping on my wagon without a word is super scummy. Again fellas if you lynch me when I flip town, remember that... Missa for sure and then my following possibilities: midoent, Zeebu (if he was involved in this fake info smear)

[Voth]

5th paragraph down on my essay a few months back... missas n a i v e t e, as in naive. Sorry posting on the phone makes shit so fucked

[Voth]

Oh, and as a side note, if there are any Town cops out there who have gotten GUILTY results on someone they know is Town (field or soilderz), if I live I can turn you sane and change the trajectory of this game.

Obviously not asking you to come forward btw... but if this sounds like you, just know that the reason you are paranoid is built in to the game and I can get you sane later on if I survive. And a vote of good confidence would help... just make yourself blend in.

[Voth]

Oh, and as a side note, if there are any Town cops out there who have gotten GUILTY results on someone they know is Town (field or soilderz), if I live I can turn you sane and change the trajectory of this game.

[Voth]

Wow! Look at that, how things change in just a few hours. Okay, that is quite an accusation, and I suppose there is no reason for me not to roleclaim now, as there is an inevitable dogpile coming my way:

I am the Town Psychiatrist.

My role has had a few minor modifications. I had never heard of this role before but it appears that the Psychiatrist, if successful, turns a Serial Killer into a vanilla townie, through a successful night action.

Now, my role PM stated that I am the town psychiatrist, and each night, I can prescribe anti-psychotic medication to a player of my choice. Here is where it gets a little different. If the player is SK, they will be turned into a vanilla townie. If the player is a town-aligned paranoid Cop, they will be turned into a regular Sane cop. This, from my research, is not a normal ability that the role has. The disclaimer was that there may be an SK in the game, there may be a paranoid cop in the game, or there may be both. Also, as if that was not enough, I was told that if I target a mafia aligned player, they will be notified of it. This was a huge issue for me on deciding how to beat play my role. Now, I was instructed that I would receive the following results: if I successfully prescribed medication to a SK or paranoid cop, I would get a ?successful? result. If the person I targeted was not either of those roles, I would get a ?failed? result. No further information on what role they were would be provided.

I did not target anyone Night 1 because I was not willing to risk a mafia target and outing myself that early. Last night, I targeted Missa. The reason I targeted Missa was because she has been so unbelievably quiet the entire game and has come off to me as not wanting to ruffle feathers or really make any accusatory statements. I believed that this is classic conduct of a
SK who wants to fly under the radar until late in the game. Why did I use an action on Night 2? Because I did not want to flounder all game, and I saw Missa?s overplayed na?vet? about the game and lurking behavior compelling that she might be an SK.

Now, when I targeted Missa last night, I got a ?failed? result. I was very concerned that I may have targeted a mafia member, and even moreso when she came
out swinging at ixt this morning but subsequently voting for me. Obviously I was not certain of this, so I did
not come out with it or even vote Missa, because I wanted to see how it played out.

Willby, I?m not sure if you heard this from Missa directly, which would be dumb, or one of her mafia buddies, but you guys will be lynching a townie and someone who has a small ability to cure a possible SK or paranoid cop. This sudden bandwagon forming on me confirms
to me that Missa is mafia, and that whoever came to Willby about this is too. No one tracked me or watched
me or whatever last night - i unsuccessfully targeted a mafia member (Missa) and she was notified of it, and now without knowing that I know a mafia member will be notified, she and her scum buddies are all over me and making up stories. I am actually hoping that one of her scum buddies contacted Willby posing as a tracker... that way when Missa flips scum, we know who is next, or if you guys lynch me, when I flip town, you have your next two targets.

I do not think we can afford a town lynch today and I urge you to reconsider.

On a a final note... this is just a complete shot in the dark but his silence and past comments are makkng
me wonder. Willby, if zeebu has anything to do with this information that was given to you about me, read back to the very few posts he has made and how he has questioned a third party in the game. I even called him out about it, but no response. He was bringing
up third party possibilities when there was only
one NK on night one. And there was only one last night. So honestly, everything points to there not being a SK so far, unless mafia went after Willby last night and he
protected himself, and field successfully blocked someone night 1. Anyway, I got off track. I was trying to say that knowing my role and that a SK could definitely be out there, I felt like zeebu floating the third party stuff
so much and so early without evidence may have been because mafia did not successfully kill anyone overnight and a different kill occurred, thereby making them realize the presence of a third party. If zeebu is connected to this, be careful about him in the future after I flip town.

not sure what else to say, I am hoping that the town
among us can realize what is going on here. And with that, there is only one thing to do... Lynch the scum who screwed up, and do not even know they did until they
read this.

If missa does not flip scum, lynch me tomorrow. I am
Not even worried about it, because I did not target field, so the only way this fake information is coming out
is because I accidentally targeted a scum... Missa


Unvote rodney
vote missa

[WillBy]

See while I acknowledge your pushing for rodney as probably reliable, I am sticking with the actual lead I have. You didn't go for my sketchy lead, so I'm not going to apologize for not jumping aboard your rodney wagon when I have something more concrete. I'll happily go after rodney next day.
Dont claim that you have been after him for 3 days- day 1 was a shot in the dark and you know it. I'll admit you've been adamant days 2 and 3, so I will bite.
and yes, self protection is busted. I wonder what fis has given mafia to balance this

Actually looking back, Exalt didn't post at all between my initial pokes at paul and my roleclaim, so I take back what I said about him not going with my sketchy lead. Rest still stands though