Mafia: What a time to be alive!

[ixt]

Voth bringing up this point, the orchestrated attack is much less likely. they must have discovered soilderz to be the doctor day 1 and decided to take him out instantly (im not sure of the doctor can protect themselves or only other people) if rodney was the town cop he wouldnt have held his nerve with the chance of being voted out day 1, impossible. So my response is not necessarily rodney being mafia (the "coordination" he claims is possible, but probably less than 50%) just that its impossible for him to be the cop.

[Voth]

It is just a post of utter desperation and makes a lot of really bizarre accusations. What makes you so special that the mafia will plan and execute an orchestrated attack on you over multiple phases? Town Doctor and Roleblocker are dead. I assume we have a Cop out there, but Paul would have only had one night to investigate anyone... what is the likelihood that you are the Cop and that he nailed you in one night?

So in summation, the mafia have carefully carried out
a multiple phase orchestrated trap on you out of everyone... why?

[ixt]

if hes mafia, im thinking big role no way he can act like this being a mafia goon. but thats just my opinion.

[Voth]

You literally just spelled it out perfectly and what ive been saying this whole time is it not fucking obvious how bad they are trying to paint me scum with the night kills knowing town will waste their time on trying to lynch me during the day phase??? Which is exactly what you have fallen into every day exalt. Their plan is working fucking perfectly if thats the case dude.. Think about how you havent been killed yet exalt, youre the most vocal player who is actively trying to push votes on the player that mafia has orchestrated to be lynched. Either you're mafia yourself or they are keeping you alive because you are beneficial to them by distracting town into wasting day phase on pushing who they have been setting scum breadcrumbs on this whole game so they can remain hidden and survive as many lynchings as possible

I had to re-read this a few times, but every time the same result. I sense utter desperation, reaching, and scumminess. I am feeling more confident in my vote after this post. Barring any new more compelling information, I believe my vote will stay. My gut is telling me Rodney is scum.

[ixt]

WillBy Exalt do you think we should have rodney a second opportunity? because the tone im getting from him is similar to last game's last 4 when i almost flipped (but actually didnt) to force vote on fis. but if youre firm in your stance on rodney exalt ill go with it. i for one am open to give him another day of proving his loyalty and voting out a lurker or missa who realistically hasnt provided much of worth. it is entirely possible that mafia wanted to dirty his name. UNLESS the play is this because rodney is a big mafia role and the "minions" have defended his name, even till now. but the second possibility im still thinking of the chances.

[RoDNeY]

Refresh yourself back to the post i made last phase that for some reason went right over your head https://forums.trenchwars.com/forum/...66#post1317366

[RoDNeY]

Also, isn't it odd that Missa and others won't vote you still Rodney? Why is that? Why do only the most suspicious, inactive, or flat out scum (Paul) defend you over and over again, and every townie who calls you out and is suspicious of you gets NK'd? Can you explain to me why no scum vote you and everyone who did dies at night? Are you saying the entire playerbase is out to get you in some grand conspiracy, and scum's ultimate goal was to set you up over 3 days all while never actually voting you at any point?

You literally just spelled it out perfectly and what ive been saying this whole time is it not fucking obvious how bad they are trying to paint me scum with the night kills knowing town will waste their time on trying to lynch me during the day phase??? Which is exactly what you have fallen into every day exalt. Their plan is working fucking perfectly if thats the case dude.. Think about how you havent been killed yet exalt, youre the most vocal player who is actively trying to push votes on the player that mafia has orchestrated to be lynched. Either you're mafia yourself or they are keeping you alive because you are beneficial to them by distracting town into wasting day phase on pushing who they have been setting scum breadcrumbs on this whole game so they can remain hidden and survive as many lynchings as possible

[Exalt]

hes probably busy im sure he will get to it before phase ends

I'm not accusing him of anything. I just need the info to confirm something.

[ixt]

hes probably busy im sure he will get to it before phase ends

[Exalt]

PS: Still waiting on WillBy to give night actions. It's important.

[Exalt]

Also, isn't it odd that Missa and others won't vote you still Rodney? Why is that? Why do only the most suspicious, inactive, or flat out scum (Paul) defend you over and over again, and every townie who calls you out and is suspicious of you gets NK'd? Can you explain to me why no scum vote you and everyone who did dies at night? Are you saying the entire playerbase is out to get you in some grand conspiracy, and scum's ultimate goal was to set you up over 3 days all while never actually voting you at any point?

[Exalt]

Just pushing the obvious here

Undercut has not contributed whatsoever to any conversation or leads, he hasn't pursued or attempted to hunt scum, he posts the bare minimum to stay alive and out of the eye of the storm and he is solely responsible for the No Lynch on Day 1 when he tied the votes. I also have this very strong inclination that The_Paul purposely added undercut into his alibi by saying that he tried to investigate Undercut to try and throw town off the scum scent with his last breath and make town think undercut could be town when they think "well if paul was scum why would he investigate another scum? undercut must be town" Its clear as day that undercut does not have towns best interest in this game.

Ixt youre going to have to start thinking for yourself man, youre hanging to the hairs on exalts ass swinging in a toilet bowl doing anything the guy says. That kind of shit will get you fucked over in a mafia game bud.
Again he is trying to derail the thread by putting all of the attention onto me instead of actively pursuing scum its ridiculous. I have been clearing my name time after time ever since day 1 providing as much information as i can, i haven't done anything scum related while others in this game have showcased scum traits the whole time yet exalt continues to blindly push at me wasting towns time.

You claim it wastes town's time over and over again, and yet... from what I can tell, no scum seem to have voted you at all on Day 1. Why is that? Care to explain this? Are you saying all scum voted to No Lynch, and that both you and ixt were saved for no reason at all? Otherwise, if you're saying ixt is scum, why is it looking more and more like no scum were hopping on your wagon to prevent him for dying? Can you explain this? If Undercut is scum as you claim, why wouldn't he have voted you?

Also, funny enough, looking back at your list of who is scum and who isnt, you seemed to have called both Soilderz and Field scum, and you said the only 'town friendly' player who voted you was me, who you also weren't sure about. It looks to me like that was completely off-base, so what are you new reads now that two of your top scum proved to be town PRs?

[ixt]

Just pushing the obvious here

Undercut has not contributed whatsoever to any conversation or leads, he hasn't pursued or attempted to hunt scum, he posts the bare minimum to stay alive and out of the eye of the storm and he is solely responsible for the No Lynch on Day 1 when he tied the votes. I also have this very strong inclination that The_Paul purposely added undercut into his alibi by saying that he tried to investigate Undercut to try and throw town off the scum scent with his last breath and make town think undercut could be town when they think "well if paul was scum why would he investigate another scum? undercut must be town" Its clear as day that undercut does not have towns best interest in this game.

Ixt youre going to have to start thinking for yourself man, youre hanging to the hairs on exalts ass swinging in a toilet bowl doing anything the guy says. That kind of shit will get you fucked over in a mafia game bud.
Again he is trying to derail the thread by putting all of the attention onto me instead of actively pursuing scum its ridiculous. I have been clearing my name time after time ever since day 1 providing as much information as i can, i haven't done anything scum related while others in this game have showcased scum traits the whole time yet exalt continues to blindly push at me wasting towns time.

im two steps ahead of u on that thought broski. while there is most likely the possibility that that could be the case, he has yet to weigh in on recent developments. if ur trying to talk reason, indeed youve done nothing much to identify as mafia, but by how votes played out you are a potential suspect. if u flip town, then we take exalt and undercut to the dumpster. but reflecting on the past exchange by exalt and thepaul, unless theyre doing a blank discussion between two mafia (as someone pointed out previously, dont remember who) im leaning towards exalt being more town at this phase. and why am i not surprised missa is just locked on me still. depending on how this phase plays out, my focus will be on very specific people next phase.

[RoDNeY]

I really want to see what Rodney says, since it feels like he's MIA for much of the game except for when he has votes on him. I'd like a claim, but I suspect he won't be giving one. If he does, it will be pretty cut and dry for me whether he is scum or town. I don't know what else I should say right now except for that.

Aside from that, Undercut, Missa, Biet, and Midoent are completely unknown to me, and I'd like to move on to figuring them out sooner rather than later. BIET refusing to vote Paul Day 2 and defending him still stands out to me as scummy, along with his no vote for Day 1. I think it's fairly certain BIET is scum, but Rodney needs to join the game and tell his side of the story first.

we most obviously live in different time zones man i been sleeping since my last post

[RoDNeY]

Nothing necessarily implicating rodney here in my view, but I'll bite. Rodney, care to share anything?

Just pushing the obvious here

Undercut has not contributed whatsoever to any conversation or leads, he hasn't pursued or attempted to hunt scum, he posts the bare minimum to stay alive and out of the eye of the storm and he is solely responsible for the No Lynch on Day 1 when he tied the votes. I also have this very strong inclination that The_Paul purposely added undercut into his alibi by saying that he tried to investigate Undercut to try and throw town off the scum scent with his last breath and make town think undercut could be town when they think "well if paul was scum why would he investigate another scum? undercut must be town" Its clear as day that undercut does not have towns best interest in this game.

Ixt youre going to have to start thinking for yourself man, youre hanging to the hairs on exalts ass swinging in a toilet bowl doing anything the guy says. That kind of shit will get you fucked over in a mafia game bud.
Again he is trying to derail the thread by putting all of the attention onto me instead of actively pursuing scum its ridiculous. I have been clearing my name time after time ever since day 1 providing as much information as i can, i haven't done anything scum related while others in this game have showcased scum traits the whole time yet exalt continues to blindly push at me wasting towns time.